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Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.08.22 13:17:00 - [1] Edited by: Soul Redemption on 22/08/2005 13:31:28 in last several weeks we had 2 wars that did not really give us any intrest in tham as we are an extreme 0.0 corp and hardly ever visit empire how ever what these 2 alliances did is a complete joke after killing several MC members they declared war and this is what happend 2005.07.27 20:23:00 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on SMASH Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. and when MC didnt find the kills they thought they would find this is what happend 2005.08.17 22:37:00 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. The second Case was way worse than the first this Case was of Cruel intentions alliance dec'ing a war on corps that had intentions on joining the smash alliance and setting up pos's in diffrent systems in order to prevent those corps from taking sovr' of those specific systems they declared war on all of tham one in perticuler was The SMITE Brotherhood which luckly 16 hours earlier had already applied to join the alliance and when they did join it the SAS war transferd to the eintire alliance and as soon as SAS VOC and all the other members of that alliance saw that the have no way of winning in 0.0 and could not get a single kill in empire this is what happend 2005.08.16 05:33:00 Cruel Intentions has declared war on SMASH Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. 2005.08.22 12:45:00 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. k when it comes to MC i can some what understand thier relactent at being spotted as incompetent at inflicting enough dmg on SMASH alliance to actually justify the expenses of this war so they would not retract but simply stop paying how ever Cruel Intentions and thier unbelieveable misrable and some what grife tactics to attempt to change the tide of wars they were born to lose as they started thier unity with the RO alliance against the SMASH alliance should really think HARD very hard if they want to be seen as cowerds and grifers or simply as good pvpers who enjoy the game and its mechanics same as SMASH inspires for with its every move and it goes for all you other corps out there who use these tactics to try and play the game like SAS and VOC and thier friends at RO tried 2 do it PS the edits are for spelling mistakes (what i could spot out anyway)
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.08.22 13:33:00 - [2] so a summary... Advertise in my sig! I am ParMizaN and i love Zarthanon
Hellraiza666	Posted - 2005.08.22 13:40:00 - [3] why do i get the feeling they couldnt get a kill cuz you either had lows full of wcs, sniped at 150km, or sat docked all day??? -------------------------------------------- In War There Are No Runners Up... Image by Denrace
Trooper B99	Posted - 2005.08.22 14:09:00 - [4] sighs and shakes head Lad, why'd ya bring yer nonsense here? As for the war lapsing, well, we had paying contracts laddie. You're just . . grins . . an amusement really. Paying customers take point over pleasure. The details of how and why the operations against SMASH alliance have already been covered in detail. There is no point hashing 'em over. If you like tae, go read up on them again (here and here). We've had an initial three weeks of attacks on SMASH results visible here. The kills by SMASH include the initial 2 NSN ships downed that started the operation. That clearly shows what was happening gun and missile wise outside of various lads leaving your alliance. The main reason there weren't many meetings bewteen the MC and SMASH were due to operational timezone differences, but when we could, we certainly went after any SMASH membership. And as fer being an "extreme 0.0 alliance" thats why we saw so many of you in empire systems so much of the time? Dinna make me laugh laddie, the facts show yer guys were in empire as much as 0.0 during the heyday of the fighting. Cannie say anything about the other alliances you mention, but I can say about when you mention the MC. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
fn0rd	Posted - 2005.08.22 14:14:00 - [5] Let me see if I have this right... Cruel Intentions attempted to attack SMASH by declaring war on perspective members of SMASH? Sounds like a good strategy to me.
M'Ar Duk	Posted - 2005.08.22 14:34:00 - [6] So... if I'm reading this right, you, being a member of Rome, are complaining about griefer tactics being used against you? Pot, Kettle, you know the drill. -------------------- [20:08:23] CapNMurphi > Who the hell is M'Ar Duk? [20:08:59] StormyWaters2021 > The sun god, who dwells inside me. [20:09:27] CapNMurphi > In front or in back?
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2005.08.22 14:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Hellraiza666 why do i get the feeling they couldnt get a kill cuz you either had lows full of wcs, sniped at 150km, or sat docked all day??? winning is winning, everyone uses WCS at some point to move something, some ships are built to snipe, and as for staying docked...I know for a fact a BoB pilot will not undock to 5vs1 odds when he is station camped (except maybe a ceptor who has gate instas)...so yeah lets not go down the "you are a coward because" road. all is fair in EVE and War "You can go kill people wherever you want if you take the consequences like a man (or a woman)." -Oveur
Seleene	Posted - 2005.08.22 14:35:00 - [8] From the day we declared war on you, SMASH scored three Interceptor kills against us whereas every time we saw a SMASH ship in Empire it died. We cut your membership in half within a few days when LoA left. We continued to hunt you down until it began to interfere with our actual duties to our clients. At that point, we let the CONCORD war dec die. Our client's wishes will always superseded any personal desires. Entrench yourself as deep in 0.0 as you wish; we'll be along eventually to deal with your sovereignty claims. If it helps you sleep at night, write us off as a joke and tell each other stories about how you pwnd us. Smack it up all you want for now, but we are far from finished with you. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
MegaJ	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:22:00 - [9] What a joke this post. Don't you ever forget to pay the warbill in time? Cus this is what happened here. Secondly you can still get killed in 0.0 and that seems alright since you just said you're never in empire ne way... Besides I don't understand why u guys think you think ur so tough if u log from ne real force attacking you every time it comes around. You have never seen a SAS or VOC log from a fight. [-SAS-] on Eve-Kills
Pheole	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:27:00 - [10] useless post, really since its propaganda and doestnt have a cent of truth in it. what happened is that someone forgot to pay the bill.
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:42:00 - [11] we have not yet lost a fight 2 SAS so i cant see where exacly we ever logged from a fight :P and secondly i dont care what duties made MC drop the war or how many ppl they think they made leave from the alliance as they will see in the time the war was still going on our numbers increased times 4 than what it was in the begining and MC is always welcome for a nice fight in 0.0 and your always welcome to do fights that dont involve bringing 50 other men with you behind the star gate just in case you'll hurt your little finger poor you :( and tbh SAS are a joke a bunch of pirates with no style like we got style we dress shiny clothing! :D lets stop the BS you just cant admit that at any point you're losing a war so im not gonna go on with this and secondly SMASH never ever used any grief tactics if you think we did your more than welcome to convo a GM and wait for him to laugh in your face
Pheole	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:46:00 - [12] as if anybody cares. i have respect for some of you, you know what yer doin. but just leave the cr.ap outa yer posts. you go hunt in belts with 3 bs and run from 2 of our hacs, rediculous. stick to the truth and dont mix it up. some of you fight but your npcers are the BIGGEST carebears ive seen ever in this game. do you think your extreme pos hugging is some kind of competition or what?!
MegaJ	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:51:00 - [13] I remember you logging half a dozen times already when you are NPCing soul redemption from our scouts and even going in local b4 u log> Looking for something ? :) So don't act all tough your a logger like the rest of em. [-SAS-] on Eve-Kills
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:53:00 - [14] Edited by: Soul Redemption on 22/08/2005 15:55:13 our pos hugging? :P i remember 12 of us killing 26 of you in LS and you know 2 each corp and alliance his own carebears :D they make us money so i dont really care i wuv tham they're cuddlie if you got issues with carebears you might wanna see some prof' treatment maybe it comes from your mom or something i dunno but you know what we just came to have fun enjoy the kills enjoy 0.0 space and we enjoy our fights with voc and SAS but when you start crap and than blame us on doing what you did thats just bull and you know it lol you we're the ones trying to put up 10 pos's in LS- and you were the ones sitting cloaked above our stations for days on end with cloaks and you know what the thing it seems everybody forgot its a game and threatning to come after us and kill us doesnt really bug us as its a game and all you'll be doing is taking out your rage on something thats not really doesnt really exsist and thats fine by me if it keeps you from killing yourselves or something like that lmao if your scouts ever cought me logging its cuz i had 2 log not cuz i knew your there and on top of that i do have a life something that involves removing your face from the screen from time 2 time so logging or not its a must do when you gotta go :P
MegaJ	Posted - 2005.08.22 15:58:00 - [15] Edited by: MegaJ on 22/08/2005 15:59:16 Ur ego is so big it's silly. And about the cloaks above the station, we at least try to fight you outnumbered and in your home system cus all u guys do is mine/NPC in or 1-2 jumps from JZV. [-SAS-] on Eve-Kills
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.08.22 16:02:00 - [16] you know what megaj your leet your uber leet and we are all npcers :P get over it my ego is the size of a house and im proud of it the affects of being good in so many things at the same time :P i also love all kinds of music i got a smaller sister i live in israel and im 17 years old anything else ya wanna know? :P
Pheole	Posted - 2005.08.22 16:04:00 - [17] the bigger the ego the smaller his p3n!s
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2005.08.22 16:06:00 - [18] lmao what?! look what applies 2 you doesnt apply on others :P
M'Ar Duk	Posted - 2005.08.22 16:51:00 - [19] Edited by: M''Ar Duk on 22/08/2005 16:51:28 Originally by: Soul Redemption <snip> and secondly SMASH never ever used any grief tactics if you think we did your more than welcome to convo a GM and wait for him to laugh in your face Sorry, 'grief' tactics was an innacurate term. I should have said lame, cheap, cowardly, childish, exploitative, craven, spineless, gutless tactics. I speak only from my memories of your corp's operations in Stain a few months ago; your typical hauler-ganking, NPCer-jumping, run-from-every-actual-fight, log-offing tactics have long resided in my most cherished memories and it's good to see that some things never change. Suffice to say, you'll never get sympathy from the rest of EVE, who either hate you or couldn't care less about your problems, so why are you even trying? Suck it up and quit giving people even more chances to point and laugh at your suffering. -------------------- [20:08:23] CapNMurphi > Who the hell is M'Ar Duk? [20:08:59] StormyWaters2021 > The sun god, who dwells inside me. [20:09:27] CapNMurphi > In front or in back?
fn0rd	Posted - 2005.08.22 17:08:00 - [20] Here dude, you dropped these: Originally by: Soul Redemption .............................................................................
General Killah	Posted - 2005.08.22 18:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Seleene From the day we declared war on you, SMASH scored three Interceptor kills against us whereas every time we saw a SMASH ship in Empire it died. We cut your membership in half within a few days when LoA left. We continued to hunt you down until it began to interfere with our actual duties to our clients. At that point, we let the CONCORD war dec die. Our client's wishes will always superseded any personal desires. Entrench yourself as deep in 0.0 as you wish; we'll be along eventually to deal with your sovereignty claims. If it helps you sleep at night, write us off as a joke and tell each other stories about how you pwnd us. Smack it up all you want for now, but we are far from finished with you. Seleene, out of all the kills your scored in empire, only 2 were against our pvpers from Rome, because they were outnumbered and outgunned. Second, why don't you go ahead, suck it up, and admit it now, you went around empire ganking miners and such, but didn't have the balls to engage the PvP force in 0.0, where we live. You said you'd come to 0.0 blah blah blah, but when it came down to it, you didn't have the guts to step your foot outside empire to actually come after us. Third, profit made from loot/mining/NPCing in 0.0 while your war was going on, covers any ganks you may have gotten 5 fold. Your force utterly failed to affect SMASH in any way. Maybe next time you should actually come to 0.0 where we are, maybe then you could claim you at least tried. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.08.22 18:23:00 - [22] Originally by: General Killah Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap! As I said before, we're not done with you yet. When we come to 0.0, it won't be to gank a few of your ships, it will be to exterminate your POS's and any claim you have to whatever region you reside in. In the meantime, feel free to smack it up. It does nothing but make you look foolish and strengthens our resolve to see this through to the end. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2005.08.22 18:24:00 - [23] We are busy right now. We will not always be busy. You are MOST welcome to declare on us, any time you like. We will make it mutual if you can't afford it I will assume you do not have the stomach for it if you do not agree to the challange, I am sure anybody not involved in the confict and with no axe to grind will concure. We will not always be busy. Yeah I know point 2 and 6 are the same, but I thought I would reinforce it. I look forward to your response and battles in space not on the forums -------------------------------------------------
Seleene	Posted - 2005.08.22 18:26:00 - [24] Damn... Drax just pwnd my post! - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
C4w3	Posted - 2005.08.22 18:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Soul Redemption Edited by: Soul Redemption on 22/08/2005 13:31:28 in last several weeks we had 2 wars that did not really give us any intrest in tham as we are an extreme 0.0 corp and hardly ever visit empire how ever what these 2 alliances did is a complete joke after killing several MC members they declared war and this is what happend 2005.07.27 20:23:00 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on SMASH Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. and when MC didnt find the kills they thought they would find this is what happend 2005.08.17 22:37:00 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. The second Case was way worse than the first this Case was of Cruel intentions alliance dec'ing a war on corps that had intentions on joining the smash alliance and setting up pos's in diffrent systems in order to prevent those corps from taking sovr' of those specific systems they declared war on all of tham one in perticuler was The SMITE Brotherhood which luckly 16 hours earlier had already applied to join the alliance and when they did join it the SAS war transferd to the eintire alliance and as soon as SAS VOC and all the other members of that alliance saw that the have no way of winning in 0.0 and could not get a single kill in empire this is what happend 2005.08.16 05:33:00 Cruel Intentions has declared war on SMASH Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. 2005.08.22 12:45:00 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. k when it comes to MC i can some what understand thier relactent at being spotted as incompetent at inflicting enough dmg on SMASH alliance to actually justify the expenses of this war so they would not retract but simply stop paying how ever Cruel Intentions and thier unbelieveable misrable and some what grife tactics to attempt to change the tide of wars they were born to lose as they started thier unity with the RO alliance against the SMASH alliance should really think HARD very hard if they want to be seen as cowerds and grifers or simply as good pvpers who enjoy the game and its mechanics same as SMASH inspires for with its every move and it goes for all you other corps out there who use these tactics to try and play the game like SAS and VOC and thier friends at RO tried 2 do it PS the edits are for spelling mistakes (what i could spot out anyway) This is the stupidest omgwtf**** i ever read, all you tend to do is making you/your corp and your alliance like fo0ls. You really think you would be a match to MC if they focused fire on you? huh do you? well only the future will show us. "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Zandramus	Posted - 2005.08.22 18:47:00 - [26] Comedy Gold Rome calling the actions of anyone else Grief Tactics, go ahead and petition us like you petitioned to get let out of the station in stain space that they camped you guys in. You are all Pathetic, as soon as the cov ops enters your system you all run to the pos and hide there for hours. Zandramus Passes Now Available for 0.0 access
General Killah	Posted - 2005.08.22 20:10:00 - [27] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: General Killah Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap Yap! As I said before, we're not done with you yet. When we come to 0.0, it won't be to gank a few of your ships, it will be to exterminate your POS's and any claim you have to whatever region you reside in. In the meantime, feel free to smack it up. It does nothing but make you look foolish and strengthens our resolve to see this through to the end. 1. Your changing what I said it the quote shows obviously a. you have no response b. you're a little bit immature. 2. I welcome to coming after us, sure blow up our POSes, I look forward to actually seeing you try and fight instead of gank. 3. We won't declare an empire war because we aren't IN empire, we live in 0.0, if you want us, you can come get us. To Zand: I find everything you say an absolute lie. 2 days in a row in LS-JEP we engaged a force of you and your RO buddies with 10 battleships more than we had and WON both days. Nuff said. --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
HeadWar	Posted - 2005.08.22 21:46:00 - [28] Edited by: HeadWar on 22/08/2005 21:46:19 Edited by: HeadWar on 22/08/2005 21:46:03 Originally by: Soul Redemption we have not yet lost a fight 2 SAS so i cant see where exacly we ever logged from a fight :P and secondly i dont care what duties made MC drop the war or how many ppl they think they made leave from the alliance as they will see in the time the war was still going on our numbers increased times 4 than what it was in the begining and MC is always welcome for a nice fight in 0.0 and your always welcome to do fights that dont involve bringing 50 other men with you behind the star gate just in case you'll hurt your little finger poor you :( and tbh SAS are a joke a bunch of pirates with no style like we got style we dress shiny clothing! :D lets stop the BS you just cant admit that at any point you're losing a war so im not gonna go on with this and secondly SMASH never ever used any grief tactics if you think we did your more than welcome to convo a GM and wait for him to laugh in your face Here's some periods: ................ and some space: Use it wisely, use it often.
HeadWar	Posted - 2005.08.22 21:50:00 - [29] Edited by: HeadWar on 22/08/2005 21:51:11 Originally by: General Killah Your force utterly failed to affect SMASH in any way. If this is true, why do you seem to be so upset about it?
General Killah	Posted - 2005.08.22 21:56:00 - [30] Originally by: HeadWar Edited by: HeadWar on 22/08/2005 21:51:11 Originally by: General Killah Your force utterly failed to affect SMASH in any way. If this is true, why do you seem to be so upset about it? I'm not upset, I'm amused tbh. Your "revenge" was an utter joke. Seems Seleene needs to kill something though --------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.

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