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W0lverine	Posted - 2005.08.25 13:14:00 - [1] or just keep 15m so any1 can shoot you, but make so sentrys wont shoot you after 5 minits...thx
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.08.25 13:40:00 - [2] I would gladly like to see sentries give up after 5 mins too.
danneh	Posted - 2005.08.25 15:03:00 - [3] Agreed, waiting for the god damn timer to end in boring.
Thnikkaman	Posted - 2005.08.25 15:11:00 - [4] I agree...but change the time that you're flagged as a criminal/outlaw to 30mins _____________________________________________/ Here comes the Thnikkaman! Yeah! Shut up kid!
FooB2	Posted - 2005.08.25 15:18:00 - [5] agreed, waiting is annoying. _______________________________________________ Inferno Torpedo I belonging to Celestial Angel hits you, doing 99.0 damage.
W0lverine	Posted - 2005.08.25 15:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Thnikkaman I agree...but change the time that you're flagged as a criminal/outlaw to 30mins whatever, as long I as dont have to w8 15minits for sentrys
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.08.25 15:21:00 - [7] Originally by: Thnikkaman I agree...but change the time that you're flagged as a criminal/outlaw to 30mins Outlaws are 23/7 and the timer is just annoying as hell and eats in fun time for no good reason. If you are still at the gate after 5 mins then you deserve to die.
Den Haag	Posted - 2005.08.25 16:00:00 - [8] Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob.
W0lverine	Posted - 2005.08.25 16:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Den Haag Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.08.25 16:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Den Haag Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob. Are you mentally challenged or something? Do you actually think that the sniping gheyness adds to the overall fun of both gankers and the people being ganked?

Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.08.25 16:38:00 - [11] Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 25/08/2005 16:44:34 Originally by: Den Haag Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob. Look at this way, at 200kms range I can run before I can be tackled at a much closer range I stand a chance of being tackled. Anyway, what do you mean adapt. I don't remember it going from 5 to 15 in the near past.
piercer	Posted - 2005.08.25 17:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Den Haag Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob. I got a feeling you have never killed anything apart from a training drone I agree with this though. 5mins till the sentries stop shooting you and up the criminal flagging to 20-30mins.
madaluap	Posted - 2005.08.25 17:18:00 - [13] Edited by: madaluap on 25/08/2005 17:19:19 Originally by: Den Haag Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob. dude wtf thats so not the point, its about the timer. not the sentry his damageoutput, allthough thay getting nerfed would be not more than normal. p.s. ga weg zeurpiet , stomme stinkalt's
Trina Tron	Posted - 2005.08.25 18:17:00 - [14] yes plz
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.08.25 18:31:00 - [15] If you shoot infront of sentrys you should be flagged to those sentry guns only for 15mins, and be flagged to other players for a few hours. The current system just means more camps and screws about with newbie pirates who cant afford a bs. CCP caters for noobs in all other proffesions except piracey
W0lverine	Posted - 2005.08.25 18:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Tenacha Khan If you shoot infront of sentrys you should be flagged to those sentry guns only for 15mins, and be flagged to other players for a few hours. The current system just means more camps and screws about with newbie pirates who cant afford a bs. CCP caters for noobs in all other proffesions except piracey not every1 like BS's, infact I'm pretty sure most players prefer other ships that BS's..
Wild Rho	Posted - 2005.08.25 18:50:00 - [17] Edited by: Wild Rho on 25/08/2005 18:53:24 Slap the damn criminal flag on for 24 hours and get rid of sentry responses. Would make aot more sense since criminals are now vulnerable for 24 hours (lets see somone sit at a ss THAT long) but at least they can move about without sitting doing nothing for the next 15mins. The current criminal flag setup really is just plain stupid, I'm not sure what the devs had in mind when they set it like this unless they intend to use boredom as a discouragement for hunting. Edit: just to add to it, for ship kills 12/24 hour timer would be good and for pod kills double it. Being vulnerable to retaliation should help seperate the men from the boys.
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.08.25 18:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Wild Rho Edited by: Wild Rho on 25/08/2005 18:53:24 Slap the damn criminal flag on for 24 hours and get rid of sentry responses. I hope you don't mean the ship won't disapper for 24 hours, because that is just insane.
Wild Rho	Posted - 2005.08.25 18:59:00 - [19] Im talking about the criminal flag timer, not the pvp timer which is a very different thing.
DadyCool	Posted - 2005.08.25 19:08:00 - [20] buhuuu

Grizwold	Posted - 2005.08.25 19:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Den Haag Stop whining and adapt. Either tank the sentry or shoot from 185k. Otherwise stop whining about wanting to close range gank every 5 min without tanking. Noob. I believe the gentleman's above point was made towards pirates wanting to: Gank at gate, Warp out, recharge armour/shield, warp back at end of that time (5 minutes), repeat etc. You need the 15 min wait otherwise a couple of pirates can effectively close a gate. 15 min simply makes it a little harder for pirates to completely "close" a gate. It should be noted that this "gap" in the closure/camping of the gate is what temps peeps to run the gate rather than just logging for the night/few hours until the camp leaves. I would argue that it actually works in the pirate's favour. I for one would be happy just to see pirates flagged for an hour and ignore the sentry issue as Concord is next to useless (and terrible vs story line) in this game.
W0lverine	Posted - 2005.08.25 20:00:00 - [22] Edited by: W0lverine on 25/08/2005 20:00:26 btw, not all pirates gatecamp, I dont like beeing stuck in system after I shot some1, want to move one
Atma Darkwolf	Posted - 2005.08.25 23:09:00 - [23] Quite honestly, once u fire on another ship and within targeting range of the sentry guns, those sentry guns should continue to fire on you untill you are dead, or leave it's location for an hour. it should not stop you from jumping, and OTHER sentry guns should still ignore you. Just the ones u shot in the vicinity of.
Necrologic	Posted - 2005.08.25 23:27:00 - [24] If you attack sombody away from sentry guns, you should either not be flagged to sentries or at max for 5 minutes. As for other flagging, who cares? So many real pirates are outlaws anway. If you attack sombody infront of sentries, you should be flagged to those sentries (but only those) for 15-30 minutes.
Lo3d3R	Posted - 2005.08.26 00:33:00 - [25] Edited by: Lo3d3R on 26/08/2005 00:34:42 Originally by: W0lverine or just keep 15m so any1 can shoot you, but make so sentrys wont shoot you after 5 minits...thx ! signed !
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.08.26 00:42:00 - [26] well u don't need to wait? Why? Your aggro ends in 1min and u can jump. Maybe u dont like the heat from sentrys? ... That could be a problem yes. But still, sentrys should stop shooting after 5mins, but 'outlaw status' should be put on for like 30mins/ship, 2h/pod. And wearing off only when online... Not that it would prevent u to go in high security or anything, but would make u a target.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.08.26 00:48:00 - [27] Originally by: W0lverine or just keep 15m so any1 can shoot you, but make so sentrys wont shoot you after 5 minits...thx signed! EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha)
Psycarne	Posted - 2005.08.26 01:17:00 - [28] It's fine as it is. Would be nice to know when you are actually flagged though. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.08.26 02:49:00 - [29] Originally by: W0lverine Originally by: Tenacha Khan If you shoot infront of sentrys you should be flagged to those sentry guns only for 15mins, and be flagged to other players for a few hours. The current system just means more camps and screws about with newbie pirates who cant afford a bs. CCP caters for noobs in all other proffesions except piracey not every1 like BS's, infact I'm pretty sure most players prefer other ships that BS's.. Well exactly, it means that people can pirate in smaller ships, the agro timer on sentrys means nothing to a bs pilot, it doesnt stop me from going anywhere while flagged, if the flag on sentrys was dropped then it would help all the frig cruiser pirates who are belt hopping. TBH before that patch i used to fly cruiser only in empire, taking down bs in it was alot more fun, but ill be dammed if im going to sit at a ss in a cruiser waiting for 15mins when i can be in a bs and just tank and leave. Or better still, ill just snipe/tank gank and stay
infused	Posted - 2005.08.26 03:45:00 - [30] Originally by: W0lverine Originally by: Tenacha Khan If you shoot infront of sentrys you should be flagged to those sentry guns only for 15mins, and be flagged to other players for a few hours. The current system just means more camps and screws about with newbie pirates who cant afford a bs. CCP caters for noobs in all other proffesions except piracey not every1 like BS's, infact I'm pretty sure most players prefer other ships that BS's.. I love Battleships. If you are going to gate camp empire, live with the timer. The amount of profit in empire gate camping makes up for it, if it doesen t, your doing something wrong. [EvE Domination] YARRRRRR!!!!!!!!!



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