Most of us have been there. You are home from work, the kids are finally in bed, and you have a planned night of endless spaceship mayhem ahead of you... or so you thought. As you settle down in your computer chair, you hear a low whine emanating from the kitchen... or is it the laundry room (I joke... I joke...).

"Honey.... Do you want to watch this movie with me? Come spend time with me."

Sometimes it's not a whine at all... it's something much... much worse.

"You get your ass in here and spend time with me, or I'll kick that damn triple screen in."

It's called wife aggro, and it's a serious problem. We are currently in pre-production for the next High Drag podcast, and we need your stories... and tips... about your own wife / girlfriend / significant other aggro. The plan is to read the tips and stories on the podcast, and I will even throw in 100 million ISK to the winner of the best story (selected by the High Drag team).

If you wish to remain anonymous just say so in the message or post. Feel free to post your story in this thread, send an ingame mail to kyle yanowski or Random McNally, or send an e-mail to [email protected] or [email protected].

Very much looking forward to reading your stories!!

I used to suffer from this, then I got my mrs a tablet and introduced her to ebooks.

Now she spends her time reading on the sofa which has opened up so many opportunities for me to annoy the hell out of her when shes so zoned in on reading.

Men, get your significant other a tablet if shes a reader. Or introduce her to the smurfs game on android and app store. It operates on eve time and will teach her to respect your hobby.

This also worked on my mrs.

Thanks all, keep it coming!

Personally, I went the Kindle route with a Kindle Keyboard first and then when the Mrs. decided to take online classes, upgrading to the Kindle Fire HD.

Now, she is either reading, watching a show or doing homework (on her own computer)

My EVE time is (mostly ) blissfully mine.

Now......what to do about KID aggro.

How old and what gender?

Wife has a computer of her own to play games, or whatever it is she does on it. I don't ask questions.

The kid bought herself a tablet. She is allowed to use it after her homework is done and before bed. Which is at 9pm, or 2100.

9pm to midnight most weekdays is me time.

Both my kids have accounts. (Ok, I have accounts that they have characters on....)

I've tried the "Go forth and MINE (whipcrack)" but they didn't fall for that. Even when I withheld food......

The 14 year old is tempted to join RVB just for the pvping. (Mostly likely he'd join the filthy smurf side JUST to shoot at the ol' man)

The 11 year old's character is now my Freighter alt. He didn't really like the game.....

Sit the sprogs down and introduce them to all good Sci-fi.

Stargate TNG, Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, Babylon 5, Farscape, Firefly etc.

Then try again with eve.

If that fails.... hmm...

God... i hate shatner trek.

My household are pure TNG, Voyager and DS9 and other shows previously mentioned. Some of my best memories are watching TV with my dad.

What do your lads like? In terms of games / hobbies? Do they have any games that build patience or require patience?

Best part about Shatnertrek was Scotty the engineer. I watch it just for him. He is my hero.

Kids games? They change more often than their socks. Their mainstayish games currently are Guild wars II and some Halo thingie.

Any chance they have to headshot the ol'man.....

However, we are getting off topic. Will be recording prolly tonight. Still looking for stories and such regarding Waggro!!

God... i hate shatner trek.

Egad! Have you lost your mind Graygor? How could you not like this? Or this?

Ok. I take it back, I dont hate it, but its so dated to me. I'm a Picard man.

Three things have recently conspired to give me copious amounts of time to play.

The little woman is a gardener (or should I say, she really, really wants to be a gardener). After New Years the seed catalogues started arriving in the mail, her laptop became planning central, in a month she has filtered through thousand, perhaps 100's of thousands of seed varieties, cross referenced with shade tolerance, grow temperature, season length, bla bla bla. In the February the basement became a grow op...without the good stuff.

One of her friends recently took up home brewing, and she decided that she needed to do it as well. About 2 months ago, packages of tubes and glasseware and home brewing magazines started arriving at the door. So the kitchen and laundry room has been converted into a microbrewery...this is good, very good. It turns out, what she lacks in gardening skills, she makes up for in beer brewing.

On top of that 2 of her friends and one of her cousins are pregnant. She just had to sew and knit a bunch of baby cloths for them.

She has been so involved with seeding, growing watering, organizing, planning, replanning, brewing, sampling, sewing and knitting and worrying that she hasn't done enough...I haven't seen her between supper and 11pm more than 1-2 nights per week for a month. Gaming life is good right now. The only drawback is that she's really doing all this to avoid writing here grad thesis so she can GTFO of university and get a job. Yep, since I'm the employed one in the house, guess who paid for all this crap. Ce la vie, I'm not going to look the gift horse in the mouth, by my best estimates I probably have about 1-2 months of gaming bliss left before I start attracting too much wife aggro. When it comes though, I expect it will be unrelenting and devastating.

Ok. I take it back, I dont hate it, but its so dated to me. I'm a Picard man.

Heh, I hear you. The Picard Star Treks are smarter. And if we start comparing William Shatner and Patrick Stewart as actors....

Oh come on. Shatner is able to practice The Method as good as anyone !

I used to get the Sneaky Nipple(TM) form of wife-aggro - She'd sneak up behind me and rub a bare nipple across the back of my neck. Some hours later, I'd remember that I hadn't logged out, and would wake up the computer to see my fate. Always worth whatever happened to my 'toon, mind you - And sometimes I'd discover my ship and toon were still mindlessly wandering through spece with nary a mark on them. Sometimes.

Still totally worth it.


These days, she's back to work, aqnd doesn't have as much energy (or frustration) to work out on me - So I've been getting more uninterrupted game play. Not at all sure I can call that a 'win' though.

Thats awesome. My wife does the same thing (on very rare occasions).

I have the foresight to say "Welp, gotta go afk for a few....."

Total unfairness and bragging here.

My mrs doesnt do that, her tactic is the sneaky neck breathing followed by sultry voice seduction which her accent does naturally anyway. Her other tactic is to rest her chin on my shoulder and ask EVE related questions like "is that you?" "You were different last time" "whats the top level of the game?" "havent you beaten it yet?" "Can i make another cute girl character?" "Oooo pretty" and "Are you still playing that space game?" until it gets annoying and she reveals her true intentions... usually something like "Can you get the big bowl from the top shelf?" (Mrs is 5' 7" tall, i'm 6' 2" tall so the top shelf is my domain to get things) or "It's bin day tomorrow."

I'm just lucky I dont pvp, so I've never had to vanish in a fleet fight and blame it on my net, or earthquakes, or terrorism etc.

Mines a military nurse, but since I was, and still am (but now reserve) an officer, she cant pull rank on me except in medical matters. So I guess she could say for my health I should do this or she will beat me or nag me to death.

i don't have bf aggro. we don't harass each other much. i leave him be when he is at his music and xbox. and he pretty much leaves me to it when i'm "playing 'puter" as i call it. lol. except if he is hungry. he can be so direly helpless at taking care of himself. i sometimes wonder how he got along at all before we moved in together. perhaps i've merely spoiled him.

but the important thing is...we always make time for each other. i've very, very rarely had a feeling of being neglected in the slightest...and i hope the same is true for him. though i know he'd never say so if he did. but after these past few years i like to think i'm fairly adept at reading his moods.

but the important thing is...we always make time for each other. i've very, very rarely had a feeling of being neglected in the slightest...and i hope the same is true for him. though i know he'd never say so if he did. but after these past few years i like to think i'm fairly adept at reading his moods.

Far too lucky for his own good

Don't have a wife,gf,bf,husband to aggro me, but a damn persistent cat at times

Leading to the unexpected but totally hilarious "Cat Alpha" as said feline strolls across or sits on the "Function" keys...

Don't have cats now but 'way back 'when, before my hiatus, I had three. There were a few 'friendly fire' events I had to talk fast to explain.

Leading to the unexpected but totally hilarious "Cat Alpha" as said feline strolls across or sits on the "Function" keys...

Don't have cats now but 'way back 'when, before my hiatus, I had three. There were a few 'friendly fire' events I had to talk fast to explain.

Excellent stuff folks! Keep it coming.

However, we probably WONT do a show on cat aggro anytime soon.

Given the internets love of cats you might be missing out.

Shoot blues blame on Cat?

Yessir! It was The Cat. I swear it!

WTB an alliance that believes that story.....

Dogs are good too. My folks have a lovely black lab i like to annoy.

New gf aggro.

This is being typed on my phone as she is on skype to her mother who lives 5 mins walk away and using my pc. I usually go to bed in an hour if i wasnt on hols so shes using this logic.

Her arguement *you have an amarr mission and 3 hours till the clock resets and you have full sell orders*

Rule #1 never teach gf how eve works... it will haunt you.

My kidlings tried guilting the Mrs. Random into playing so she created a character. We trained it for missioning (pre-Drake nerf ) and she ran maybe 3 missions with us before announcing that "Eve just isn't my game".

Will be selling her character....

A bad... something... always blames his pets?

Hey, she gave it an honest try. Can't expect any more than that.



Not always. Just when convenient - or when true.
I'm perfectly capable of losing Drakes on my own, thankyouverymuch.

Hey, she gave it an honest try. Can't expect any more than that.



Not always. Just when convenient - or when true.
I'm perfectly capable of losing Drakes on my own, thankyouverymuch.

I can set you up with cheap drakes if youd like.

I can set you up with cheap drakes if youd like.

Does she have a sister? I might be wanting to make a trade

Your cat Banjo sounds like Simons Cat.

Id link the series but on my phone atm.

Finally, we have Banjo, the closest thing to Garfield anyone could have. This is the biggest, cutest, cuddly-st, hungriest, most annoying cat in the history of cats. I would have killed him a long time ago if he hadn't been so damn cute. He has razor sharp claws and loves to surprise me by clawing his way up my leg when he jumps into my lap while I'm playing. It's extremely painful. He then proceeds to apologize by purring and walking back and forth in front of my keyboard, waving his long, periscope tail in my face, rubbing his face against mine. He'll then crawl into my lap facing me, sit down, and literally put his paw on my face over my mouth, as if to say, "Shhh...that's enough Eve. Pay attention to me now.".

My mrs doesnt do that, her tactic is the sneaky neck breathing followed by sultry voice seduction which her accent does naturally anyway. Her other tactic is to rest her chin on my shoulder and ask EVE related questions like "is that you?" "You were different last time" "whats the top level of the game?" "havent you beaten it yet?" "Can i make another cute girl character?" "Oooo pretty" and "Are you still playing that space game?" until it gets annoying and she reveals her true intentions... usually something like "Can you get the big bowl from the top shelf?" (Mrs is 5' 7" tall, i'm 6' 2" tall so the top shelf is my domain to get things) or "It's bin day tomorrow."

I'm just lucky I dont pvp, so I've never had to vanish in a fleet fight and blame it on my net, or earthquakes, or terrorism etc.

Graygor, recruit her to do some Jita scamming for you. She might be a natural!

Moar Aggro stories please! There's gotta be more than that!

Not Waggro, strictly-speaking, but more 'life-aggro...'

Besides my wife, I have a teen-aged daughter and a pre-adolescent son, and three dogs. Needless to say, it can get LOUD in the house. And busy. And I'm the main arbiter of the peace, as well as the only one who can get the dogs to hush up once they get going.

ThereGÇÖs a reason I keep my Mic on 'mute' all the time.

Used to be a Reactor Operator on nuclear submarines - One of the crucial skills as an RO is the ability to track multiple conversational threads simultaneously - from multiple sources and distances. It's a military skill which comes in handy on a daily basis, and it's rare that I don't know exactly what's going on in the house (I'm going to embarrass the hell out of my kids at some time in the future... ).

So I'll be watching my duties or mission or whatever I'm doing online, listening to my wife and daughter argue, my son agitating his sister, and the dogs making a fuss about it all, all at once while 1 ) trying to get my wife to show her daughter some flexibility, 2 ) get my daughter to show some patience and respect, 3 ) my son to get the hell outside and go play, 4 ) and the dogs to hit their beds and hush-up. All the while, 5 ) trying not to screw-up the stalk of a stray barge that has no business in my WH.

I can usually manage about 3/5 of that successfully. I've let more intruders escape the WH (or other things*) because I've been distracted by someone in the house doing something outrageous at exactly the wrong moment more times than I care to count. So far, I've been killed due to the ruckus fairly few times, but it has happened.
I've also managed to keep my temper. Go figure.



*Case in point: Tuskers DeathRace 2013. Couldn't/didn't find the 'Finish Line Can' because I had too many things & people yelling (literally, in one person's case) for my attention, and I looked away from the monitor and lost focus. Also lost a kill I had lined-up in my sights because I looked away just as they snuck out of range of my point and warped out.

This game is'(t worth your marriage or relationship nor is any other game
and that is final

This game is'(t worth your marriage or relationship nor is any other game
and that is final

I used to aggro my ex BF a lot over playing consoles when we had perfectly good computers to play with.

Filthy console peasants...

I always took it as a warning. But the thing is, could this happen in EvE? I mean.... I know the old MC raids would last 8-10+ hours. Is there anything comparable in EVE? I'm not sure how long pvp roams and so on are, or fleet fights.

Agreed!

So, is there a point where aggro begins? How much time do you get "in game" before the "glare" starts?

Time isn't the factor, not for us - Unless someone over-extends past their negotiated timeslot. It's 'slighted' that starts aggro - When someone feels they're being disresepcted. And that can be a two-way street. If I've got something going on in-game, and people aren't respecting that I've got something that has my attention, someone had best be bleeding or they've got my ire. As previously noted, I can maintain situational awareness dspite the game - If something's going on, I know about it. If I need to break out of the game, I will do so - But breaking in to the game for something that isn't dire, or time-sensitive, is going to **** me right off. That's my escapism time they're burning.

So - I could have just connected, and if my wife feels she needs my attention Right. Now. and doesn't get it? Commence le Aggro! But she'd better have what I consider a good reason, or she'll get it right back. Fortunately, we're mostly on a level, when it comes to what constitutes 'good reasons.'

Then, there is of course, le amour. And for that, she resorts to unfair tactics; which tactics I do not resent or resist. If that's what she has in mind, well... EVE can go hang; I'll straighten out the mess later.

Edited
Added expanded material to first paragraph.

Le Amour aggro, best aggro!

With 4 people competing for time on the computer, I resorted to purchasing a couple more computers for my household. Wife got a laptop for doing schoolwork, eldest son got a laptop for doing schoolwork and youtubing, BOTH kidlings got a desktop (thats better than mine *sniffle*) for doing their gaming and I alone take command of the dinosaur that could.

To what lengths have you gone to minimize Aggro?

Well, this begs the question...

Is there a point where the Aggro/Waggro becomes justified? Personally, there was a time where I would sit down to EVE and blow off reality for HOURS. After that much time, does wife aggro become "justified"?

Le Amour aggro, best aggro!

With 4 people competing for time on the computer, I resorted to purchasing a couple more computers for my household. Wife got a laptop for doing schoolwork, eldest son got a laptop for doing schoolwork and youtubing, BOTH kidlings got a desktop (thats better than mine *sniffle*) for doing their gaming and I alone take command of the dinosaur that could.

To what lengths have you gone to minimize Aggro?

Well, this begs the question...

Is there a point where the Aggro/Waggro becomes justified? Personally, there was a time where I would sit down to EVE and blow off reality for HOURS. After that much time, does wife aggro become "justified"?

I also had a pimp hand module that worked best with auto-target back turned on.

yeah, and I ditched the wife and moved from 3 accounts to 5, and most recently this setup

i couldn't be happier with the decision

this setup

Also, never buy a small sofa. It doesnt mater if you are two people. Get the biggest sofa possible. This makes movie marathons much nicer.

******* face it, a relationship is an agreement to put up with all the **** in exchange for sex

this thread is filled with people who are upset with that bargain, as if someone forced you to accept it

Oh, no. That's not the basis at all. Sex is a very nice part of the arrangement, but the basis of marriage is to have someone who will watch your back, cover your ass, keep the home fires burning, applaud your successes, commiserate with your defeats, and discuss plans for turning the latter into the former - then encourage you to get up the next day and do it all over again.

'Tis a reciprocal thing. Which is why communication and negotiation must be part of the package.

Hardly upset with it, and if that's what you read, you need to learn to read between the lines. Are there moments of anger or frustration? You betcha. That is also part of the package - A fixture, rather than a feature, if you will. An inescable reality that can be managed, or can be your doom, depending on how smart you are about it. Kinda like how Gravity is a fixture of living on the planet Earth: respect it, or learn to work with it, you're fine. Treat it with contempt, and it will kill you very, very dead.

OK, here's a wife aggro story. Not a great one, but on-topic at least.

I'm in an FW pick-up fleet in a Thrasher. Maybe my second one ever, and I'm not very experienced at PVP fleets and using voice comms. Enemy militia fleet warps in, I burn to the nearest thing (a Thrasher) and get a tackle. FC says "Maller is primary, Maller is primary." So I'm thinking six things at once: Where's that Maller? Dang, I don't spot him in this pile of ships on overview! Should I sort overview by ship type? Should I switch targets from the Thrasher? What's the range to the Maller? Too far to quickly burn there? What about that Incursus next to my targetted Thrasher? Is he busy shooting the BC in our fleet, or will he tackle me if I break off? You know, one of those adrenaline OMG split-second consider-and-decide things you do in a pvp fight.

But, at that very instant, from behind my chair... wife's hands on my shoulders. Slow massaging. Completely out of synch with the sweaty high speed stuff I'm focusing on in the game.
Wife [in smooth sweet voice]: "How's dad doing?"
Me: "hnfn"
Headset: "Got a point on the Maller."
Headset: "More WTs warped in. Hurricane, Omen, Catalyst."
Wife [still massaging]: "Your shoulders are really tense. It's been a really rough week, hasn't it? Relax your shoulders."
Headset: [Something unintelligible that I missed].
Me: "...hurmf..."
At which point, between processing the information coming in from the monitor, the headset, my shoulders, and the voice behind me, my executive decision-making neural processes overheat and fail. I make the perfectly wrong decision and decide to switch targets to the Maller. Start burning to it.... and the Thrasher and Incursus scram and web me.
Headset: "Maller is into armor."
Headset: "Crap! Watch that pirate fleet!"
FC: "Warp! Get out, get out."

The Thrasher and Incursus pop my Thrasher.
Me [Turns head slightly back toward wife, while actually watching the monitor and spamming the Dock button to try to escape with my pod. Attempts appreciative massagee voice.]: "Mmmmm, thanks honey. Ah, that feels great! Ooooo.... Aaaah...."

Meanwhile my pod can't dock, because this is an enemy-owned FW system. So while trying to remember what people enjoying a massage do, I'm clicking away to warp to random objects, . Eventually I got to a station where I can dock the pod.
Me [into headset]: "I'm dead, guys. Leaving fleet while I reship."
Wife: "Oh, I'm sorry. You're busy."
Me: "Oh no, no. Not busy. I just needed a second to get off of the voice chat."

While i wouldnt mind winning, I say give it to Khergit he wins hands down.

While i wouldnt mind winning, I say give it to Khergit he wins hands down.

Going to be recording and editing this week.

Any suggestions for music on this particular subject?

Now I have that stuck in my head. ThankyouEVERsomuch.

Going to be recording and editing this week.

Any suggestions for music on this particular subject?

Depends on how much you life the mrs, but this might be a good call.

I accept payment in isk or personal cheque.

Depends on how much you life the mrs, but this might be a good call.

Most excellent choice! Blues Brothers soundtrack ftw!

Recorded the episode last night. Will be discussing who gets the 100mil.

Most legitimate necro-thread, ever.


Edit: Sorry that you will be a little self-conscious from now on when typing "High Drag" as per earlier thread today

I guess I should have been more specific. Oh well.

And Silens i love the tangent they went off on your story.