Avoiding the troll is going to be difficult with this one. However, I will try. Knowing the capabilities of your pilots is very mission critical. This has to be extended to include not just the skill points and pixels chosen but the player and their physical hardware as well. If a person has a client that has proven to break down when more than a dozen objects load on grid then it is on the FC and pilot both to fix it.

This is even more true as the importance of the role goes Logi pilots need to have their hardware as a critical part of the setup and plan accordingly in their overview and graphics. If they insist on seeing their pixels wiz about and it costs them performance then it is up to the FC to remind them that eve is called spread sheets online for a good reason.

Finally, eventually **** happens. If your working with 4b of assets and have only one logi then you should reexamine risk v reward. And given the efficiency and ease of use the T1 cruiser logi gets then there is no excuse to have one DC be the pivotal factor.

And do post the loss mail(s) I am sure we all want to see what was onboard.

The typical answer to an petition is: Our logs show nothing.

If the disconnection was Server-sided - uhm, no idea. You can always try though.

Hello fellow capsuleers!

Let me be honest, this is a whine session so if anyone responds below with WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE you can **** yourself as I already said it was a whaambulance. Recently, in a fight we lost 4billion isk of ships (on a contract) because our logi disconnected at the worst possible moment. While we deal with this, we can replace our ships so whatever... what should be done about this? Is CCP at ALL responsible for the loss of an internet connection or is it normal? Imagine it being nullsec and 50-100b in losses, is that okay too? Do we ever draw a line? Where does the line go?

Admittedly this is me angry because of the disconnect but what can we do about it? I'm not as old as the old guard but certainly someone who has heard from CCP can say something. I'm just curious. It's bullshit but it's fact. How do you prevent disconnect losses without allowing cheating. See you, out there!

Hello fellow capsuleers! Recently, in a fight we lost 4billion isk of ships (on a contract) because our logi disconnected at the worst possible moment.

Hello fellow capsuleers!

Let me be honest, this is a whine session so if anyone responds below with WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE you can **** yourself as I already said it was a whaambulance. Recently, in a fight we lost 4billion isk of ships (on a contract) because our logi disconnected at the worst possible moment. While we deal with this, we can replace our ships so whatever... what should be done about this? Is CCP at ALL responsible for the loss of an internet connection or is it normal? Imagine it being nullsec and 50-100b in losses, is that okay too? Do we ever draw a line? Where does the line go?

Admittedly this is me angry because of the disconnect but what can we do about it? I'm not as old as the old guard but certainly someone who has heard from CCP can say something. I'm just curious. It's bullshit but it's fact. How do you prevent disconnect losses without allowing cheating. See you, out there!

Hello fellow capsuleers!

Let me be honest, this is a whine session ...

IBTL for ranting?

Is this your first foray into online gaming? Of course you can't hold CCP responsible for the internet being the internet.

CCP doesn't run the internet. Go complain to Al Gore - he invented it after all :)

No, CCP is not responsible, and cannot be held responsible.

You cannot prevent connection losses. It happens sometimes. on CCPs side when you lose the connection it would look no different than if you disconnected your Ethernet cable.

There is no way for CCP to determine what a "legitimate" disconnect is.

I recommend you post with an alt next time. You never know who is watching your ignorant posts.

And the Al Gore thing was me being facetious, but I'd have thought that was obvious.

...what should be done about this?

Are you only using 1 logi and flying frigates worth 4B? if so i'd recommend to take a step up to cruisers they tend to last longer.

Jokes aside, if 1 logi is keeping you alive you might wanna considering using more logi, there is no such thing as too many logi alts.

Avoiding the troll is going to be difficult with this one. However, I will try. Knowing the capabilities of your pilots is very mission critical. This has to be extended to include not just the skill points and pixels chosen but the player and their physical hardware as well. If a person has a client that has proven to break down when more than a dozen objects load on grid then it is on the FC and pilot both to fix it.

This is even more true as the importance of the role goes Logi pilots need to have their hardware as a critical part of the setup and plan accordingly in their overview and graphics. If they insist on seeing their pixels wiz about and it costs them performance then it is up to the FC to remind them that eve is called spread sheets online for a good reason.

Finally, eventually **** happens. If your working with 4b of assets and have only one logi then you should reexamine risk v reward. And given the efficiency and ease of use the T1 cruiser logi gets then there is no excuse to have one DC be the pivotal factor.

And do post the loss mail(s) I am sure we all want to see what was onboard.

Dont forget the players capabilities aswell. and by that i mean, we had a player in faction warfare who worked long days, he played in the US TZ but was english, so he would occasionally just fall asleep right there with his hands still on the keyboard.

we let him play logi for a LOL-roam ONCE.

never again.

3. Ranting is prohibited.

A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.