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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.08.27 11:29:00 -
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In regards to working for/with Jericho Fraction.
Epic would like to remind everyone that these stats are not to boast about kills to deaths, but we have had a few people asking for a weekly update ingame and considered others might be interest to.
--Kills--
Capsule: 11
Shuttles: 3
Frigs: 2
Inty: 3
AF: 5
Cruiser: 2
BS: 3
Industry: 5
Elite Industry: 1
Total: 35
--Loses--
Capsule: 5
Shuttles: 1
Destroyer: 1
Inty: 6
AF: 3
Cruiser: 3
BS: 2
Total: 21
We look forward to the continuing battles ahead.
This post will be updated as regards to the length of the contract, ASAP. Negotiations are still going ahead.
<3
Rei Storm
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 Originally by: Eris Discordia
It's not a bug but a planned feature
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:03:00 -
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hmm.. contract has been a bit hard? the kill/loss ratio seems to be a bit even.
anyways good luck with the next week(s)
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
hmm.. contract has been a bit hard? the kill/loss ratio seems to be a bit even.
anyways good luck with the next week(s)
I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you look at just the number of kills then, I suppose we're only ahead by a few, but if you go by monetary value, then I'd say we are way ahead.
Thank you :)
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
It's not a bug but a planned feature
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fisho
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Storm
Originally by: Grimpak
hmm.. contract has been a bit hard? the kill/loss ratio seems to be a bit even.
anyways good luck with the next week(s)
I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you look at just the number of kills then, I suppose we're only ahead by a few, but if you go by monetary value, then I'd say we are way ahead.
Thank you :)
No way would I say you are WAY ahead in montery value. Considering you are the hunters, i don't think that your doing that well at all.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:23:00 -
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its their first contract dont be so critical. Nobody is 1337 right from the start.
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: fisho
Originally by: Rei Storm
Originally by: Grimpak
hmm.. contract has been a bit hard? the kill/loss ratio seems to be a bit even.
anyways good luck with the next week(s)
I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you look at just the number of kills then, I suppose we're only ahead by a few, but if you go by monetary value, then I'd say we are way ahead.
Thank you :)
No way would I say you are WAY ahead in montery value. Considering you are the hunters, i don't think that your doing that well at all.
You opinion is noted fisho, but when a couple of haulers get destroyed with over 73mil of oxygen isotopes in each, then I consider that a heavy monetary loss.
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
It's not a bug but a planned feature
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Komoku
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:32:00 -
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As one of the hunted I would say they are doing well under the conditions they have to work in. The number of players in pure blind with them as -10 is huge compared to their numbers.
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WildCard
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:40:00 -
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[G] didn't start to hunt em down till now.
As far as we see they have to learn alot bevor we see them as threat.
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
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Oohwha Schipperman
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Posted - 2005.08.27 12:52:00 -
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Tbh, if I was their employer, I wouldn't give a rat's ass about their kill/loss ratio -- that's the merc CEO's worry. All I'd focus on is how much damage they're inflicting on the target.
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.08.27 13:03:00 -
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Agreed with the above.
Keep it up Epic, losses aren't relevant. 
http://omerta.killboard.net
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.08.27 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Oohwha Schipperman
Tbh, if I was their employer, I wouldn't give a rat's ass about their kill/loss ratio -- that's the merc CEO's worry. All I'd focus on is how much damage they're inflicting on the target.
Thats a very valid point... the loss of the attacking corps ships is irrelivant... only the targets loses are an issue in a contract.
d solo.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.08.27 14:07:00 -
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What Solo said, Epic have been forthright with their loss/kills it seems, that in itself is commendable....
They are inflicting losses and their employer is happy.. sounds like they are doing a decent job to me.
Go Epic.
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anister
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Posted - 2005.08.27 16:15:00 -
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It's not all about the kills.
Contract work relies heavily on disruption, stopping the corp doing what it is they do.
I'd say if you are killing more of them then they are you, they are on the back foot and wary, carrying out daily tasks with caution and hesitation, disruption achieved and thus goal.
GG Epic
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.08.27 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: anister
It's not all about the kills.
Contract work relies heavily on disruption, stopping the corp doing what it is they do.
VERY valid point. There are always the people that dock, log or go play another game. Kills paint a good picture, but it's not always the full picture of the effect a merc corp has on an ememy. 
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Drummore
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Posted - 2005.08.27 17:06:00 -
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Actually the Merc Losses being greater than the "victims" would only pose a problem to an employer in 2 cases:
1- The Employer is paying for them.
2- The Merc corp is using Tech 2 mods and by losing a bunch of ships are actually funding the "victims" instead of hurting them.
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2005.08.27 18:18:00 -
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why do people always complain about the merc`s losses?
They are paid to fight..Not run away to keep a + status on kill/loss
When BYDI did contracts we engaged as soon as we saw a chance and often used a tanked "loss" bs as bait to get people aggroed at gates..
Soetimes we got multiple kills from it..Other times we got nothing and lost the ship but did our job..
It is the kill number that counts..Not losses..
Go on Epic..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ http://bydi.digilo.net/evekill/
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.08.28 09:50:00 -
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Being ex-Epic. i know for a fact Epic. can do better then this threat may seem to paint. Kills/Losses are easily screwed by 1 mistake, so I would not count in it that Epic. is easy to defeat.
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larietta
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:31:00 -
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mmmm looks to me like you like killing carebears.
i take it you got alot ov mining lazers now
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:18:00 -
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mmmm looks to me like you like killing carebears.
i take it you got alot ov mining lazers now
Damn pesky AFs and their mining lasers.
http://omerta.killboard.net
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li
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mmmm looks to me like you like killing carebears.
i take it you got alot ov mining lazers now
Damn pesky AFs and their mining lasers.
I know, ive been trying all week to mine in peace 
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:34:00 -
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Seems pretty low to me, how many pilots are engaged for this contract?
And, do you have a link to your killboard?
Just wondering what corps the killed ships belong to, just to make sure you are not yet another pirate corp ganking unaffiliated corps in Pure Blind.
Genuine question, no smack, since I've yet to meet you in space.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.08.28 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Seems pretty low to me, how many pilots are engaged for this contract?
And, do you have a link to your killboard?
Just wondering what corps the killed ships belong to, just to make sure you are not yet another pirate corp ganking unaffiliated corps in Pure Blind.
Genuine question, no smack, since I've yet to meet you in space.
Sooo true... oh, i've seen rei storm in crusader once.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.08.28 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Seems pretty low to me, how many pilots are engaged for this contract?
And, do you have a link to your killboard?
Just wondering what corps the killed ships belong to, just to make sure you are not yet another pirate corp ganking unaffiliated corps in Pure Blind.
Genuine question, no smack, since I've yet to meet you in space.
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. And if you read this threat carefully, it's not all about the kills.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 28/08/2005 21:57:36
Can you provide a link to your killboard?
Put into context, this contract is against the north more or less and they are based in pure blind. Those numbers are one weeks fighting of G/IRON/PA and a number of other squads.
From that view I don't think epic.'s had an impact at all on the north. But then again it's not a shabby weeks work from rei who's been busting her ass off in EC. I wouldn't be surprised if almost all of the kills are of her making.
GG and let's keep at it
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about.
Er... let's see... isn't it why I asked 2 questions... that are unanswered so far 
Originally by: Fred0
Put into context, this contract is against the north more or less and they are based in pure blind. Those numbers are one weeks fighting of G/IRON/PA and a number of other squads.
G/IRON/PA are not based in Pure Blind. Pure Blind is unclaimed and has always been (and will probably always be). G/IRON/PA do not shoot neutrals in Pure Blind as we are not pirate alliances.
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:55:00 -
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The client satisfaction is th emost imporatnt , wether you as merc losse more as you kil thats up to you as long you satisfy yer client wishes its ok .
flame it like you want but thats whats being a merc about .
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.08.28 23:58:00 -
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what Clash said really, if JF are happy, then Epic can be happy. Acheiving more kills then your target is not always the objective or really a true measure of their ability as any kill/loss depends on the circumstances and numbers. If PA like to blob up then any small outfit is going to have trouble achieving kills without risk.
Im sure we could debate the true impact of mercs, their ability to disrupt normal operations (I would judge this far above any kill amount as losses are easily replaced within 1-2 weeks) but kills are the only 'relative' measure of the effectiveness of this. If disruption of target activity is the goal then as long as their miners are camped and being hit on and their npc bashers being ganked, then who cares how many pvp'ers they kill as long as they are successfully hitting the soft targets but it all depends on the objective.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.08.29 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
what Clash said really, if JF are happy, then Epic can be happy.
Oh yep, they pack a nice punch and are a good bang for the buck.
Plus they are fun to fly with (and don't get too angry with you if you can't tell a cruiser from a HAC  )
Hope we can keep this contract profitable for both sides involved... and painful for third parties...
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Not enough punishment
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N3rvous
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Posted - 2005.08.29 06:07:00 -
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I see a few people have asked for this already and I'am curious too.
Can we have a link to the EPIC killboard?
Thank you,
- N3rvous
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.08.29 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: N3rvous
I see a few people have asked for this already and I'am curious too.
Can we have a link to the EPIC killboard?
Can't. Against forum rules. (3rd post)
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Not enough punishment
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