Open web browser...
Proceed to www.google.com or an internet search engine of your choice...
Enter the following in to the search box "trade window scam eve"

Read all the articles relating to the trading window and how it can go horribly wrong, this will take some time, my search turned up 1.45million results...

This doesn't only work for the above situation, you can look for all sorts of stuff with internet searches, and no one else has to know about it...

You got scammed. And give him some slack we see the same type of threads every other day and we get frustrated because there a are hundreds of threads about the same thing that can be found by new players with a simple search. Also never use a trade window in eve unless its with an alt.

Greetings,

I have a quick quesiton about how direct trades/transactions work between players (e.g., no contracts, no market involved).

Let's say I offer item X in the trade window.
Let's say the buyer offers 1 billion ISK for item X.
I then push Accept/Ok/Agree

Can the buyer change his offer/ISK-amount after I have pressed the OK/Accept/Agree button?

Thanks.

You got scammed...

NEVER use the in-station direct trade option for isk, unless you completely trust the other guy.
The station trade window is bugged... People that know how to manipulate it, can change the Isk value in the station trade window in a manner you won't see on your client. When you hit accept... you generally get screwed out of a lot of isk..

So, now you know... Sorry you lost isk, there is nothing that CCP will do to remedy the situation. Hopefully it wasn't too expensive of a lesson.

You can always use contracts to safely transfer goods to/from characters...

Just a heads up the eve wiki is written by people not ccp, just as Wikipedia is written by people not the owners of it. Also according to ccp the trade window is (working as intended). So no it isn't their fault, unfortunately it's things like this that we get mad at new players to look stuff up, often the eve wiki is out of date, so it's always good to verify with multiple sources as things are often updated in eve.

And Wikipedia has volunteers who vet, edit, modify, and lock posts to avoid misinformation. If the information is being hosted on EVEOnline's website, than they should be responsible for the accuracy of said information.

Regardless, the game mechanic is flawed. If a trade parameter is changed after one party Accepts, than both parties should have to re-accept the offer. That didn't happen. The trade went through.

The feature is not 100% functional, and should either be patched, or removed from the game until it is patched, to avoid these types of issues.

From what I've read, this has been going on for 6 years: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=519066

I've read stories from after the May 22, 2007 patch date that show that the issue still exists for high-load systems. I was in such a system.

If a trade is changed after you or the other patlrty changes something you HAVE to re-accept it.
Slme changes however are not obvious. 1000000000 and 100000000 look similar unless you carefully count the zeros.

My big question is....why use the scam, uhm I mean trade window.
Never use it unless its your own alt. ALWAYS use the contract system its a bit more secure.

I used the Trade WIndow because the person I was trading with opened it up in front of me. I figured I'd learn a new game mechanic.

Regarding your second post, I did not have the opportunity to re-accept the offer, since I had something akin to the following situation occur: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=519066

"I recently partook in a transaction where I sold a couple items for 1 billion ISK."

Theres your mistake, boss.

See, I encourage new players to learn new mechanics, like bubbles in nullsec. But I tell them to do it in a cheap ship, and with cheap plugs, to minimise the cost of learning.

Similarly, wormholes are fun. But I dont adivse people to take their finest ratting ship into one for a learning trip.

Because learning's generally expensive. And in this case, you got scammed.

Always use a nice, simple contract.

I used the Trade WIndow because the person I was trading with opened it up in front of me. I figured I'd learn a new game mechanic.

Regarding your second post, I did not have the opportunity to re-accept the offer, since I had something akin to the following situation occur: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=519066

Fail.

Linking a 6 year old forum thread has no relation to your stupidity of falling for a trade window scam.

Except when the situation was exactly the same.

It was your fault deal with it. Grow a pair.

It was my fault that a bugged trade window

• didn't reset/cancel the trade when the buyer changed the price after we both pushed accept
• didn't have its UI updated with a price of 0 ISK.

Right. That makes sense. My fault.

What I've found interesting about the EVE player base, at least the portion of you that browses the forums, is that most of you are OK with their being a buggy interface in the codebase that's deployed to us, the end-users. Truly a unique mindset.

For the record, these people are professional trolls and whiners. Anyone with half a brain realises that a feature that is so dangerously broken that it's only purpose is for scamming, is not actually a useful feature and only serves to drive away new players who didn't yet learn that it is utterly useless.

If the trade window is bugged, as you say it is, than CCP is at fault for not patching the bug.

True!

Sadly, you've just learned another important lesson about EvE: As a rule of thumb, CCP adds something to the game, gets to about 80% or so to making it actually work right, then forgets about it entirely and moves on to something else. The direct trade window is a classic example of this. It's an ancient problem that has never been fixed and probably never will be fixed because they're too busy adding Oh New Shiny all the time to bother with fixing something that's been broken since forever.