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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 10:15:00 -
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Introduction
I am a Caldari pilot. I joined the Caldari Militia in July 2010 and had the opportunity to fly under some of the best Caldari faction warfare corporations of my time.
Seeing the amount of memories I had in the Gallente/Caldari war between July 2010 and July 2011 I always had it in the back of my mind to have them written down somewhere; might as well let it be here.
Please bear in mind much of what I will be writing will be what I saw and completely from my perspective which may be (and I am sure is) wrong in certain aspects so please before you tear into what I write keep in mind it is the view I had at the time that I am writing down.
While I do mention a few names any names I miss are by no means meant to downgrade anyoneGÇÖs importance in this history but the sheer number of pilots I flew with and against are just too many for me to mention. I have the utmost admiration for all that flew against me and with me on the field of battle.
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 10:18:00 -
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Chapter One
The State of the State
Prior to my joining the Caldari FW the State of Caldari Fw was in decline. The ERA of great Caldari PVP corporations such as the 22nd Blackrise, NOD, COW, Space Pervs and others was over. The days the Caldari owned all of the Gallente / Caldari warzone were long gone and most of the great FCGÇÖs that period were known for had long left to other conflicts in EVE.
When I joined the Caldari Militia (July 2010) the State PVP corps were trying hard to deal with a much superior Gallente fighting machine that had not only superior numbers but superior pilots. While this by no means implies Caldari had no good pilots it is just to say the Gallente had many more good pilots to bring to the table. Couple this with superior numbers and few of CaldariGÇÖs finest had incentive to risk any good ships in PVP as the risk of being GÇÿblobbedGÇÖ was just to high. The Gallente had a stranglehold on the main highsec entry point to the conflict zone Tama.
With the Caldari losing its senior pilots many a new pilot for the State was put off by the fact that the act of jumping into lowsec without a proper fleet was near suicide. In Tama the main threat was a Gallente Corporation by the name of Bi-Polar Bears that was the forward most base of operations for the Gallente, Essentially right on the Caldari doorstep. Bi Polar was beaming with high SP pilots that made it a hobby to farm the Nourvakieken gate (Caldari highsec Entrance) for killmails. The leadership of the Bi Polar Bears was sound in the hands of a pilot named Eddie Valentino. When word got out that Tama had easy ganks and was a great place to boost killboard stats pirates as well as Gallente flocked to it in droves. This made Tama one of the most dangerous systems in EVE for a very long time.
On the Caldari side of the pond a great void was left by the lack of the great Fleet Commanders of the glory days of the Caldari and internal fighting was a normal occurrence while the many egoGÇÖs bumped into each other each with his or her take on how things should be amended and who should have the final say.
Another factor that led to this downturn was in fact a much superior intelligence and counter intelligence network the Gallente had set up. Spies were rampant as well as people seeded into the Caldari Militia to sow infighting and the hiring of mercenaries against any Caldari corporation that started to get on its feet was commonplace.
Something drastic needed to be done the problem was who would assume the leadership role within the Caldari and set the groundwork for a leaner meaner war machine to counter the Gallente superiority on almost every level of the war at this time?
The answer was simple, no-one in particular. This was the middle ground needed. A confederate of Caldari corporations each with an equal say was the answer and as such the Caldari Defense Initiative (CDI) was born.
The CDI was the brainchild of a charismatic pilot named Hidden Snake. Hidden Snake was one of those people you either loved or hated. He founded a corporation known as the Inglorious Bastards that at the time of my entry into Caldari FW was the top killing corporation of the Caldari. Along with the remaining members of the CDI a more solid body within the Caldari Militia was forming. Intelligence was being organized and shared, external and eternal enemies of the Caldari FW corporation were faced with this confederation of pilots.
To me a pilot new to the world of EVE pvp and faction warfare; Hidden Snake and the Inglorious Bastards were larger than life. After being on a few general militia fleet operations I was shown glimpses of a world beyond what I saw in general militia chat and random gangs with no rhyme or reason. There was a private world within the Caldari that was secretive and organized, they had the keys to all the intelligence channels and the best of the best pilots flew in their fleets. I was hellbent on becoming a part of this upper echelon of Caldari PVP as running around in general milita fleets lacked anything looking like cohesion or strategy, the bare minimum needed to conduct a war. Let alone a war against a much superior Gallente fighting force.
To me Hidden Snake had all the keys and winning his favor was my number one priority if I was to experience Caldari faction warfare to itGÇÖs fullest.
To Be Continued.
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Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.15 10:39:00 -
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Interesting read. Looking forward to the rest. |

Ramingo
Verplante Juenger Hamburgs Space Wombats on Acid
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Posted - 2011.10.15 11:54:00 -
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Decent read.
Not to be a nit-pick, but "The CDI was the brainchild of a charismatic pilot named Hidden Snake." Wrong. I created the CDI, with the further help of Pillow Fighters Inc. Hidden Snake did not join until we got a majority of the prominent corporations to join. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 14:08:00 -
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Ramingo wrote:Decent read.
Not to be a nit-pick, but "The CDI was the brainchild of a charismatic pilot named Hidden Snake." Wrong. I created the CDI, with the further help of Pillow Fighters Inc. Hidden Snake did not join until we got a majority of the prominent corporations to join.
If that is the case I stand corrected. By the time I joined CDI was in full swing by I.BS., PINK, COLDWING,Space-Marines among others so please feel free to correct me if I make a mistake and give credit where credit is not due.
I am fully aware that some of the things I will mention might need correction but again I am only writing from my limited perspective and too many a pilot has helped shape the history the modern history of the Caldari let us hope I am fare to all.
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 15:16:00 -
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Chapter Two
To Charm the Snake
As many a FW pilot has found out rising to the ranks of GÇÿtrustedGÇÖ pilot is not something that is done overnight. This leaves many a pilot with a sour taste in their mouth and supports the theory that FW is very GÇÿcliqueGÇÖ ish.
Never was this truer than in the case of the Caldari that are by default a paranoid race. Many a time the CDI was branded as a tool for alienating newer pilots that were not able to get into the GÇÿcool kidsGÇÖ club and in the beginning my task was made harder and harder by random accusations of being a GÇÿspyGÇÖ. While painful and disheartening I stayed the course and hoped my actions would disprove any random accusations as I racked up as many Gallente killmails as I could with what limited GÇÿgoodGÇÖ fleet access I had.
I took the GÇÿthe less I knew the betterGÇÖ approach as I knew deep down that the newer pilots are easily looked at in scrutiny when something dreadfully wrong happens or information relating to a particular fleet or operation leaked out. After racking up a decent amount of Gallente killmails and rolling with as many fleets as were available to me over a period of two months I took it upon myself to evemail Hidden Snake to ask to join the Inglorious Bastards. As previously mentioned as a new pilot flying around in Condors and Merlins I did not expect to be even given the time of the day but I knew that being in I.BS. was going to be my way into the best fights this side of the struggle so it was a long shot but I shot I decided to take.
To my surprise I was given the nod by Hidden Snake to apply to I.BS. and while some of you may think it is funny I still see that day as one of the best days I had in eve and recall fist pumping silently on my PC as I knew I was on the right track to fulfill my goals of being a factor of the Caldari war machine and not just another GÇÿnoobGÇÖ in the meat shield.
The Caldari being outnumbered and out gunned at the time adapted to Guerilla warfare Tactics and never was this more the case than in the Inglorious Bastards. Hidden Snake. Much to the dismay of the Gallente hit and run was the name of the game and Hidden Snake and his bastards were called every name in the book for not Standing toe to toe to the Gallente Armada and providing the Gallente with killmails. Indeed the notorious GÇÿcloak on a hurricaneGÇÖ tactic worked in not only surprising the hell out of the random soft side of the Gallente armada unintentionally revealed but provided for some hilarious taunting in any system local an I.BS. pilot entered into.
As my time in the Inglorious Bastards moved on the GÇÿAWEGÇÖ I had held for Hidden Snake began to fade as I saw another normal person and not the GÇÿlarger than lifeGÇÖ rockstar picture I had painted for him as a general militia pilot. He was by no means the best Fleet Commander to fly under but took the concept of fast hitting hard hitting GÇÿwolf packsGÇÖ to new heights giving the guerrilla GÇÿhit and runGÇÖ school a run for its money. That being said he had a certain aspect of genius to him as he knew exactly how to adapt tactics to ensure the majority of his fleet made it out alive and by god he knew exactly just how to **** off the Gallente be it in space or on the forums. The persona he portrays on the forum is nothing like the real Hidden Snake but I was not complaining I enjoyed someone sticking sticking his knife into the Gallente colossus foot each and every time he could.
At the time the best Fleet Commanders of the Caldari flew under the Bastards flag and where would I be mentioning the history of the Inglrious Bastards without mentioning Gunny, Superchair and Aurora Nyx.
Gunny was an off and on Fleet Commander for the Caldari that knew the inGÇÖs and outGÇÖs of where and how to strike the Gallente and that remains to the day of writing this one of the brightest stars in the Caldari constellation. His only problem in my opinion was he demanded a lot from his fleet members and poorly fitted ships in his fleets had a way of raising his blood pressure to the point of just raising his hands in dismay and leaving EVE for days or weeks at a time. But deep down he is true blue Caldari that the Inglorious Bastards were lucky to have and if I am not mistaken the spacelanes of Blackrise still witness him flying around and leading random gangs to this day.
Superchair was another GÇÿgo-toGÇÖ fleet commander and was a pillar of Caldari fleet operations although he did suffer the same fault Gunny did in expecting only the best fittings and tactics from his fleet members. This gave him a GÇÿfitting ****GÇÖ reputation and many a fleet he ran was half an hour late because he wanted to make sure each and everyone of his pilots was GÇÿperfectGÇÖ. When thing went his way wow you were promised a great fleet fight but god help you if things wnet south in a Superchair fleet as his fits of rage stuck the title of GÇÿemo-chairGÇÖ to him. While I do stick this title on to him affectionately I hope he knows I mean no harm in mentioning it here. Another star in the Caldari constellation I do believe he still roams the Caldari/Gallente warzone running fleets when he feels like it.
Aurora Nyx was the unknown soldier of the Inglorious Bastards. Hidden Snake was terrible at running day to day tasks for the Bastards and handed his trust and the keys to his corporation to Aurora Nyx. Hard not to give Aurora Nyx a Nod here as he was always behind the scenes making things happen as a diplomat and day to day administrator to the powerhouse of pilots that became the Inglorious Bastards.
Last but not least the Inglorious Bastards at the pinnacle of their existence set the bar high for kill racked up and would not be far from the top three if not the top of the Caldari corporations when taking into consideration the shot one year timespane of their GÇÿtrueGÇÖ existence. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 15:17:00 -
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This pilot feels blessed to have flown under their wings and love him or hate him, I will always feel a sense of gratitude to Hidden Snake for not only giving me the chance but truly being one of the movers and shakers of Modern Caldari history and one that has set his thumb print firmly into the Caldari Militia legacy.
But all good things come to an end and the end of the Inglorious Bastards brought me back down to earth from the high I was on flying with them. As to how they fellGǪGǪGǪ..
To Be Continued
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:13:00 -
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I do want to take a break here and mention that I am trying hard not to turn this into a masked autobiography as it would take away from the original intent of the thread to reflect the short history of Caldari prior to, during and after Wolfsbrigade.
That is easier said than done though as everything I am writing I am writing from my own perspective.
Please feel free to correct me if I get any information wrong I really wish this history to be as accurate as possible.
It is the least I can do for a corporation that meant, means and will always remain to be so close to my heart.
Wolfsbrigade. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.15 17:39:00 -
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Chapter Three
The Gallente Armada
As mentioned in chapter one the days of Caldari Glory were over. Gone were the days of complete control of both Caldari and Gallente space in the conflict zone. It is said that the pendulum of power within the Caldari Gallente conflict is always swinging one way or the other.
When I joined the Caldari the pendulum was fully tilted towards the Gallente creating an Armada of power that was born from the battle hardened veterans of the Glory Days of the Caldari. No other faction has accomplished the feat of complete control of the conflict zone aside from the Caldari. If you look closely through the medals of the most senior Caldari pilots you will see a medal given out by the Caldari State Itself to those that were Caldari soldiers at the time of this amazing feat. But those days sadly were long gone.
After months of being on the receiving end of the Caldari surge a new breed of Gallente was born. Meaner, Smarter, More Bloodthirsty and Vengeful Gallente pilots now made up what I can best describe as the Gallente Armada.
To understand the nature of the beast one must understand that in the period from June/July 2010 (when I joined) The Gallente have exerted complete control of the main space-lanes used by both combatants.
Villore was the main staging point for new Gallente pilots. Just a few jumps out of Dodixie it provided the main base of operations for fleets leaving into the conflict zone through Old Man Star (the closest conflict zone entrance to Dodixie). Unlike the Caldari version of Old Man Star (Tama) any Caldari force projection to the Old Man Star choke point was short lived as it would usually be in the form of a fleet that would fly out of Nourv and could not hold up a camp on the Villore side for long before the fleet was either disbanded or had to run from an overwhelming Gallente response. The main reason for this is the fact that After the Cult Of War corporation left Enaluri and the conflict no Caldari corporations have set up forward Caldari bases so essentially most if not all of the Caldari Fleets had to either be short lived fights in Tama (under the iron fist control of both Gallente and Pirates) or had to take the long route into Blackrise Low Sec through Ichoriya providing a little element of surprise every now and then but seriously cutting down on response time if that route was taken.
Further down the conflict zones pipes two Gallente corporations set up the the core of the GallenteGÇÖs forward base of operations in Heydieles, percussive diplomacy (AKA SLAPD) and the Quantum Cats Syndicate (QCATS). Gallente pilots easily set up shop and an advanced base in this low security space with easy Access to Tama from the two pipes that led to Tama. Specifically the Deven pipe and the Abune pipe.
Another base was set up in a State Protectorate station of all things in Nisuwa by Shadows of the Federation, a famous Gallente corporation that was the main powerhouse of the Gallente Armada. The Nisuwa Base (essentially deep into Caldari Space). From a tactical standpoint this was yet closer to Tama (only two jumps away) and provided rapid reshipping options for Gallente Fleets patrolling and responding to any Caldari Force being prepared from Nourv to go through the Tama Choke point. It was also a slap in the face to any Caldari by the Gallente and served as a constant reminder of exactly who was in control at this point and time in the conflict.
The forward most Gallente Base was set up in Tama (as previously mentioned) by the Bi-Polar Bears. This base provided constant pressure on the Tama chokehold for any Caldari pilots entering the conflict zone and an easy forward scout post for the Gallente to report any Caldari Fleet composition to the remaining Gallente pilots based out of Heydieles, Nisuwa and on the rare occasion of need Villore.
From an outsiders point of view the Gallente seemed much more in harmony than the Caldari with much less internal bickering on who was in charge each Gallente corporation was contempt with having a base of operation and a flight of pilots that can easily rely on reinforcements from other corporations. As well as a relatively safe passage route to Gallente highsec all the Gallente Corporations had easy access to the pool of new Gallente pilots if they chose to recruit as well as a reliable logistics chain.
I was always perplexed by this as from inside the Caldari it always seemed a struggle between Caldari CEOGÇÖs and corporations as to exactly who was in charge was going on at one time or another. To me the Gallente seemed much more in sync than the Caldari.
To add to the Caldari woes at the time very few caldari pilots were willing to set up base outside of nourv as any attempt to move in the conflict zone by Caldari pilots was quickly dismissed when faced with the Gallente Armada in firm control. Again I point to Hidden Snake for pushing the Inglorious Bastards hard to set up a base in low security space to get beyond the Tama choke point as he fully understood that repositioning his fleets to have a launch point that could come into Tama from another gate, any gate, other than the Nourv gate which as previously mentioned has turned into a harvesting ground for not only the superior Gallente Armada but the droves of Pirates looking for easy ganks from the much younger and less experienced Caldari Pilots. The Space Marines (another Caldari Corp) set up shop in Ichoriya if I am not mistaken as well as Dark Pangolin and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse setting up shop in Enaluri. The only hindrance to those lonely Caldari outposts was the lack of pilots willing to move out there from nourv.
As it stood, something drastic needed to happen in the general Caldari pilots mentality of hording together like sheep in Nourv and change was on the way.
To Be Continued
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CrossedSwords
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.15 18:52:00 -
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more please |
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Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.10.15 19:17:00 -
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CrossedSwords wrote:more please
I second This. |

Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 20:46:00 -
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Really really good read so far mate.
/emote keeps pressing the refresh button waiting for more. |

mental maverick
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:45:00 -
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Very good read so far.
Now would you please stop being so ******* lazy and start typing the rest!  |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:01:00 -
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Chapter Four
ChoooGǪ.ChoooGǪ.Chugga Chugga Chugga Chugga
Caldari Battlecruiser: Drake
Of the meticulous craftsmanship the Caldari are renowned for, the Drake was born. It was found beneath such a ship to rely on anything other than the time-honored combat tradition of missile fire, while the inclusion of sufficient CPU capabilities for decent electronic warfare goes without saying.
Yes the mighty Drake. A spaceship worth its weight in gold that has no problem standing toe to toe with practically any other ship in EVE. It urges the pilot to push further, be bolder and launch himself headfirst into battle confident his ship is true.
While the use of drakes in combat in EVE was gaining momentum far and wide throughout new eden I would say the pendulum began to tilt slowly in favor of the Caldari when a corporation named Draketrain exploded onto the Caldari scene.
The leadership of Draketrain was mostly a band of tight knit friends from the space perverts and forum warriors. The later corporation was renowned for outstanding tactics and innovations that pushed the edge of combat to the very edge of EVE game mechanics if not in some cases slightly over that edge. Mostly remembered for the Lowsec Doomsday Video (one of the first applications of the disco fleets in eve) on youtube, the Leadership of Draketrain knew how to fight, when to fight and most amazingly seemed to bend the reality of EVE to their favor time and time again.
The battle doctrine of Draketrain was simple if not obvious from the Corp name. DRAKES.LOTS OF DRAKES. So many drakes that when they undocked they formed a silver train of pure Caldari might that came out of the station like a giant snake. If you ever seen a Draketrain up close you know exactly what I am talking about.
Looking back on the overview of the conflict zone I wrote in chapter three a release was needed to ease the strangle hold the Gallente had on the Caldari to allow the Caldari some breathing room to get back on its feet. While the Caldari CEOGÇÖs fought and debated for ages on where the best option to set up forward bases to ease the chokehold on Nourv, some even setting up shop as far away from the other as possible to somehow assert himself as the big Caldari Cheese, Draketrain was having none of it and achieved something never before done and never attempted again in Faction Warfare.
Caldari innovation? Draketrain leadership brilliance? An answered prayer? Or just sheer dumb luck? My guess is as good as yours but what they did next was the equivalent of a person on the ground being beaten to death by someone else and landing a square kick to the throat of the attacker.
Draketrain set up their base of operation in Villore. Yes you read that correctly Villore the Gallente Highsec route leading to the conflict zone. Sheer military Genius? Your guess is as good as mine but one thing is for sure. They cut off the Gallante ArmadaGÇÖs supply line to Dodixie making moving to and from Gallente highsec a logistical nightmare for the Gallente pilots. They showed no mercy what-so-ever to the newer Gallente pilots gathering themselves and their combat experience enough to hopefully one day be able to live in low security space under one of the Elite Gallente Corporations Flag.
To the astonishment of all involved in the conflict Draketrain came up with a secret formula to not only shrug off the Gallente NPC Navy but add to that the potent combinations of logistics and recon ships wraped in a ball of OMG SOOOO MANY DRAKES made only the most well organized Gallente fleet stand a chance of even standing toe to toe with Draketrain. The secret formula Draketrain used to be able to operate in Gallente highsec with near immunity? That remains to this day one of the most guarded secrets of the Caldari State. I even recall being in a Caldari Faction Warfare Fleet in Gallente high security space being part of a POS bash, of a POS, in Gallente Highsec Space. Iet that sink in for a minute people.
The Gallente Armada was not pleased to say the least. The mighty Gallente Armada threw everything they had to remove Draketrain from Villore but no matter what happened Draketrains presence in Villore was there to stay.
Another leg up Draketrain had over other Caldari corporations was that they had such a command structure that they cared not about any potential Gallente agent infiltration into their corporation. In fact they flaunted it to all and begged the gallente to send their spies to join Draketrain. In the times of deep background security checks, constant pilot behavior monitoring and Caldari paranoia exercised by the CDI through solid intelligence sharing among the few that needed to know Draketrains in your face method was unheard of. Anyone could join draketrain. No API checks, screening or interviews needed just click GÇÿapplyGÇÖ to the Draketrain corporation tab and you were in. Provided of course you could fly a drake.
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:03:00 -
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Draketrain had little time for infighting and egoGÇÖs in their corporation (something that long plagued the Caldari Corporations, said Corporation Officers and CEOGÇÖs). They simply had a strict military code. This is how you fly a drake! This is where you will be at whatever time we say and if you donGÇÖt like it tough luck youGÇÖre out...NEXTGǪGǪ.as simple as that.
By setting up base in Villore Draketrain did the impossible. They cut off the Gallente Armada in lowsec, any pilot that was part of that Armada had better get used to being in low security space for a long time as the days of easy resupply trips to Dodixie for both pilots and gallente corporations was over. On multiple instances Draketrain would flaunt themselves so much they would camp the main Dodixie Market Stations Undock point turning both Dodixie and Villore local chat in to some of the most hilarious reads I ever had in EVE.
Did I mention Draketrain rolled in the low security space of the conflict zone?
When Draketrain rolled through a system anywhere in placid, blackrise or even Tama. People docked up VERY FAST. I was in Tama the first time Draketrain rolled through Tama. For the First Time in Months I saw Tama completely and firmly under Caldari Control for a few hours while draketrain flaunted themselves. They were leading by example in a time where the Caldari were fighting about what kind of fleet to run and who would FC, Draketrain was showing one and all that the mighty Gallente Armada is not invicible. Something that many a Caldari pilot (especially the new ones) was absolutely convinced of prior to Draketrain. They showed that the boogieman known as Gallente spies was nothing to be afraid of.
This breathed more life into the Caldari than anything in recent memory as more and more pilots flocked to Draketrains GÇÿall are welcome to joinGÇÖ bosom. Finaly the newer Caldari pilots did not have to jump through hoops to prove that they are worthy to fly with the CaldariGÇÖs elite. With one click of the GÇÿapply to corpGÇÖ button they were instantly granted membership to what was by now the De Facto Eilte of the Caldari, they were part of the Draketrain.
Draketrains assertion of themselves as the leaders of the Caldari did not sit well with many of the Caldari Old Guard. Mainly the CDI officers and CEOGÇÖs would sneer in internal intelligence and communication channels at Draketrain if for nothing else but for the simple fact that they (Draketrain) was swinging the tide of the war, and sadly they were achieving what the CDI was never able to, that being to go on the offensive and knock the Gallente Armada back a step or two. The CDI was a reaction, A Defense against an overwhelming enemy. Draketrain was the Offensive Line.
The Caldari, long being broken into a million factions and cliques, was now in the post Draketrain era firmly split into two camps. The GÇÿcool onesGÇÖ that were made of the old CDI guard guided by the ever so daft hand of Hidden Snake, Gunny, Dark Pangolin and company and the GÇÿlol RPGÇÖersGÇÖ of Draketrain guided by the hand of Lacco, Bad Messenger and Damar. This was not a two party political structure. This was an outright political struggle for the leadership of the Caldari.
Someone had to go......
To Be Continued
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.16 02:38:00 -
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Chapter Five
Where wolves fear to prey
My love of the Inglorious Bastards was not born of blind obedience to Hidden Snake. In fact I clearly remember being taunted in local by someone that Stalking Mantis probably sleeps in Blue Pajamas with the Caldari insignia splattered all over them. Other times I was called a mouthpiece for hidden snake. Understand my love for Hidden Snake and his bastards was based purely on one simple concept:
A United Caldari Front to Face a Beast Called the Gallente.
Who has time to fight with his neighbor when both he and his neighbor are being pounded into the ground by a bigger more muscular neighbor?
The recent resurgence of Caldari pilots showing up to fight the Gallente after Draketrain showed up did not go unnoticed by the old guard of the Caldari (CDI). While many a Caldari corporation and pilot belonged to this GÇÿold guardGÇÖ, again Hidden Snake held the most Aces in the card deck.
While draketrain clearly ruled any engagement by sheer strength, a very good number of very experienced Caldari pilots remained in the fold of the Bastards, of course with exceptions here and there.
Having enough of the GÇÿflock of sheepGÇÖ mentality spread out among the majority of the Caldari Militia members based in Nourv; Hidden Snake made it clear he wanted to move his Aces to lowsec.
Low sec was good, low sec meant less carebear distractions than highsec, but mainly low sec meant not being forced to tunnel fleets through one solar system (Tama).
Orders were issued to move the headquarters of the Inglorious Bastards to Hysera. The advantages Hysera had over Nourv were numerous:
1-It was NOT nourv
2-It was the end system of a lowsec pipe that branched out into both Heydieles to the North and Tama to the South
3-It was 3 jumps to Tama that meant Caldari fleets that were formed there by the allstar cast of active GÇÿFCGÇÖs and the best of the best Caldari pilots could swing by Tama to pick up reinforcements from Nourv. Remember not everyone was willing to let go of Nourv quite yet
4-Hysera had two Gates leading to Caldari Highsec. This significantly reduced the chances of the Gallente shutting out reinforcments from Highsec
5-Hysera had a GÇÿpipeGÇÖ entrance from its lowsec side which meant incoming Gallente fleets could be easily spotted. Unlike Tama with possible entrances from both Nisuwa (shadows of the federation) and Heydieles (SLAPD & QCATS)
6-It reduced the ability of rapid Gallente reshipping in Nisuwa and made it hard for the the Shadows of the Federation (The most organized of the GallenteGÇÖs forces) to become a factor as any movement by them would have to be a concentrated effort of jumping through at least 7 or 8 lowsec systems before reaching it.
7-It had three stations (unlike Tama with only one) that was a plus.
Efforts were focused now on getting as many quality fleets to form up from Hysera as possible. With a new found ease of movement and the availability of many more options than the past the sight of multiple fleets leaving Hysera to engage the Gallente was getting more and more common.
With every passing day the sheep of Nourv were slowly shedding their sheeps clothes and getting a taste for Gallente blood.
I believe both the Caldari and Gallente pilots enjoyed this new found resurgence in PVP and many skirmishes were had in one day instead of the Gallente bored to tears hoping someone in Nourv would set up a fleet for them to fight. Engagements were no longer blood baths and smaller and smaller patrol gangs of sometimes two or five pilots were becoming common place throughout the conflict zone.
In essence there were far less sheep in the Caldari folds as more and more Gallente blood was being tasted.
Meanwhile; in a highsec system you probably never heard of called GÇÿYriaGÇÖ (two jumps away from Hysera) two wolves quietly began burrowing a new den.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2011.10.16 03:14:00 -
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i was thinking about joining caladari FW, hope to fight by your sides one day, depends if CCP makes it better or keeps it the same. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.16 04:50:00 -
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Chapter Six The Fox of Yria
You all know who I am talking about.
Where do I begin describing this man?
There comes a moment when you do fleet PVP. It is right after your ship explodes and you either are in warp in your tiny pod or suddenly in a station miles away. The moment when you think to yourself GÇÿthings can be so much better if we were more organizedGÇÖ.
But still, where do I begin describing this man?
From my perspective he came out of nowhere and personified every wish I ever had for the Caldari even the wishes I never knew I had. He was simply the answer the Caldari needed. But before I get carried away praising FIRST GENERAL let me start by saying that in the beginning of his arrival he never claimed to be a leader nor did he ever make his intentions of becoming a leader in the Caldari war clear.
He ran a few pickup fleets (nothing extraordinary) from the general militia crowd and as paranoid as most of the old guard were the first impressions in our internal chatter was GÇÿwho the hell is this guy?GÇÖ
One quick roam under his command was enough to make anyone a believer though. I mean no disrespect to any Caldari or Gallente pilot or fleet commander when I say this but he truly was a natural, one in a million Fleet Commander.
In his early days I never remember him asking pilots to bring a certain type of ship, He would never ask pilots generally paranoid about newcomers to bring anything. He would simply undock in a Tengu, Sliepnir, Claymore, Legion, Proteus, Damnation, Macharial or anything GÇÿblingGÇÖ you can think of and ask for xGÇÖs to join his fleet. Any hesitation by any paranoid pilot was soon vanished when he saw that this fleet commander was basically putting his faith in whoever xGÇÖd up with whatever they could bring to protect his ship from the mighty Gallente Armada waiting but a few jumps out to eat such bling skin and bone.
Not only did he lead larger and larger fleets into battle. He teamed up with a friend of his named Tommyboy (that toon has since been sold) and started running open classes to any and everyone from the Caldari militia that wanted to learn everything from the basics of tackling to the mechanics of fleet management. These classes ran out from Yria where a lone office set under the name of a corporation called Wolfsbrigade. I would call Tommyboy and FIRST GENERAL the true founders of Wolfsbrigade.
FIRST GENERAL, This guy was the real deal.
Always the sly diplomatic fox FIRST GENERAL never allowed enemies from within the state to form. He dealt with each and every other CEO and Senior Caldari Officer with a feather and a glass of wine. This made him easily approachable and easy to get along with and soon employment offers were coming from every single corporation of the CDI, each of the Caldari CEOGÇÖs saw that this was the long lost ace of spades they needed to complete their royal flush of budding FCGÇÖs and pilots. As large as some of the Caldari Egos were I was simply astonished that he was able to decline each and every single invitation to join a corp and yet avoid injuring the pride of the inviting CEO.
I even recall Shadows of the Federation among other Gallente corporations flirting with him in local about joining them. Yes he was that good that even his opponents wanted to have him under their own flag.
Although not apparent from the beginning this fox clearly had a plan he was not sharing with anyone and was slowly setting the chess pieces up for his move. Perhaps I was not the only one with these suspicions but any discussions or apprehensions with FIRST GENERAL about his long term plans were stroked aside while in conversation with him.
On the other side of the Wolfsbrigades founding equation was Tommyboy a man with plans to take young uneducated pilots and teach them to pvp. He was a beast with the Wolf class ship. His methods of teaching were brutal and training was no holds barred as trainees where expected to lose their ships and die as part of their training regimine. Slowly but surely Caldari pilots from everywhere were welcoming this new attitude with open arms. Gone were the days of spy accusations to anyone unfamiliar and in came the days where the small Wolfsbrigade corporation would take new pilots and start teaching them to PVP instead of constantly complain about the lack of skilled pilots the Wolfsbrigade had a GÇÿIf they are not available we will forge themGÇÖ mentality. The term spy was not thrown around as lightly by either Tommyboy or FIRST GENERAL and rest assured if they ever pointed the spy finger at someone you better believe they were right and not just tossing the word around.
Two common factors were shared by both Tommyboy and FIRST GENERAL and I have seen both do it with my own eyes.
When things were going south in one their fleets they made it clear that they will try their best to get the remaining fleet members out alive by sacrificing themselves and their bling ships to the Gallente that relished nothing more than to pound the opposing FC into the ground. The Gallente were fighting a war of attrition and killing the morale of the opposing Caldari Fleet Commander was a common tactic among them.
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.16 04:52:00 -
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I specifically recall a fleet on the Deven gate led by FIRST GENERAL in his Tengu. The fleet was made up of assorted General Milita pilots in drakes/canes cruisers and frigates. The caldari Militia pulled range from the Deven gate and the gallente sat on the gate waiting. Someone in fleet yelled on comms GÇÿsister combat probes on scanGÇÖ and in a flash the gallente horde was perfectly within 10K of our fleet. We all knew we were screwed and unlike anything I was accustomed to FIRST GENERAL did not call primaries but gave instructions for everyone to GÇÿGET OUT GET OUT GET OUTGÇÖ knowing full well that he was sacrificing his Tengu for the rest of the fleet to get out as the Gallente fire would be drawn to him right off the bat.
Any other FC would have tried his best to save his ship by calling primaries in a desperate attempt to save his bling. This was not any other FC. Kind of hard not to respect him after that. I was sold on him being the real deal.
Two problems were in the way of the Fox of YriaGÇÖs plan to rise to the top. Draketrain and Hidden Snake.
To Be Continued
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
2
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Posted - 2011.10.16 11:31:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:GÇÿlol RPGÇÖersGÇÖ of Draketrain guided by the hand of Lacco, Bad Messenger and Damar. This was not a two party political structure. This was an outright political struggle for the leadership of the Caldari.
Draketrain are completely serious Roleplayers. Says so in corp history.
draketrain was formed by noobs so they could roleplay caldari militia warriors.
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Party Lips
Blackened Skies
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 13:27:00 -
[21] - Quote
finally a good forum post worth reading while i drink my coffee in the morning. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.16 16:08:00 -
[22] - Quote
Damar Rocarion wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:GÇÿlol RPGÇÖersGÇÖ of Draketrain guided by the hand of Lacco, Bad Messenger and Damar. This was not a two party political structure. This was an outright political struggle for the leadership of the Caldari. Draketrain are completely serious Roleplayers. Says so in corp history. draketrain was formed by noobs so they could roleplay caldari militia warriors.
We all know that when someone cannot deal with someone else on the battlefield they resort name calling 
And by the way Damar I am getting to you. It would be impossible to mention Caldari history without mentioning you. You deserve a full book if not only a chapter.
In the Meantime I appreciate you providing the perfect soundtrack to this thread. Enjoying it as I type away to be honest. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.16 17:53:00 -
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Chapter Seven
The Pendulum Swings
All the previous chapters were leading up to this point. The point where the Inglorious Bastards (by now the leader of the Caldari Old Guard) began to crack.
Unlike other power struggles The Fox and Snake power struggle was not on the battlefield. It was in true Caldari fashion. It was in the backrooms and board meetings of the Caldari corporations Old Guard. While Hidden Snake tried everything he could to swoon FIRST GENERAL to join the ranks of the Inglorious Bastards, the General always maintained a soft spoken philosophy (at least at the time). His philosophy was he did not want to get involved in the petty political struggles of the Caldari Old Guard. He always stated we had plenty of targets to focus our aggression on in the field of battle and if anyone wanted to find FIRST GENERAL that is where he will be.
The Wolfsbrigade did not actively recruit at the time. This was a sly move by FIRST GENERAL as it made him look like less and less of a threat to any of the Caldari corporations biggest assets; pilots and fleet commanders.
General Militia chat was being spammed by the two lone wolfs for two things every Caldari pilot desperately wanted. Free training and fleets. Wolfsbrigade training GÇÿat firstGÇÖ was open to all no strings attached. Wolfsbrigade led fleets GÇÿat firstGÇÖ were adapted to the ships the fleet members brought.
FIRST GENERAL could lead any type of gang it seemed. From nano BC to ECM backed cruisers and frigates all the way up to Armour Battleships. He had no preference, no strings, any and all were welcome (unless obvious spies of course). The brilliance of his fleet commanding skills came in his divine skill to multi task. FIRST GENERAL would have separate comms for scouts, separate comms for ECM, separate comms for logistic ships, and general comms for the main body of the fleet. He would time and again broadcast a destination and have the fleet moving in towards it only to double back and start heading to his real destination. Not only did he execute these GÇÿCrazy IvanGÇÖ maneuvers with his fleets but more than once he would breakdown even the main body of the fleet into colors and had these colors moving in different directions. Most fleets in EVE are a solid body moving together with the exception of scouts. FIRST GENERAL fleets where broken down spliced up and brought back together with a stroke of mastery I have never seen. The Gallente Scouts were utterly confused by his fleet movments. This seriously reduced the ability of Gallente agents that might have infiltrated the fleet to report back to their Gallente spy masters. He would have a full map of the region in front of him and made mental notes of each of every scout report. To FIRST GENERAL leading a fleet was akin to one of those GÇÿwar roomGÇÖ scenes in a movie with him standing over a backlit table with separate grids and miniature spaces ships in different colors being moved with each scouting report. And not to forget my personal favorite quality; no matter what was happening, no matter how stressful the situation was getting in combat. He maintained a voice and a persona as cool as the other side of the pillow. The only times he was liable to raise his voice in fleets was when someone was talking over incoming scout reports, scout reports the main fleet never heard. FIRST GENERAL fleets where marked by long bouts of silence while he digested incoming information, slowly moved the pieces and finally brought it all together in a symphony of destruction and focused aggression.
The Gallente Armada was swinging and stumbling to blow after blow from Draketrain to the north of the conflict zone (between Dodixie, Villore and Old Man Star) and FIRST GENERAL fleets to the south of the conflict zone (Tama, Kedama, Deven and Abune). What was once a mighty Armada was now in effect being pinched from both sides and forced to huddle together in the midpoint of their bases of operations Heydieles.
Not to be beaten the Gallente drew a line in the sand on each of Heydieles outbound gates. This line clearly read GÇÿonly this farGÇÖ as the Gallente were disorganized by the recent changes the remaining gallente bases of operations did nothing for them but split them up in a time where they needed to band together. Heydieles is to this day the nerve system of the Gallente Armada and no matter how hard any Caldari pressure was exerted the line in the sand drawn by the Gallente was clear.
The balance of power has shifted now both sides saw themselves as more a less equals. As the space lanes from Tama to Villore were scattered with wrecks and patrols from both sides the conflict was now in full swing and PVP was on tap for both sides. It was beautiful. It was savage. It was this pilots training grounds.
Yet the Caldari still had a broken house that needed to be fixed.
To Be Continued
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Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
22
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Posted - 2011.10.16 18:43:00 -
[24] - Quote
I'm saluting one of the best reads I had on these forums.
I'm planning to join the State Protectorate in the near future, and I'm drinking this in... There's nothing worse than leaving a bad looking corpse |

FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 18:48:00 -
[25] - Quote
/emote blushes
Too much praise =) . I am just a run of the mil pod pilot really.
Looking forward to more story posts Mantis - proud to have flown with you for a year o7 |

Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.16 19:00:00 -
[26] - Quote
FIRST GENERAL wrote:/emote blushes
Too much praise =) . I am just a run of the mil pod pilot really.
Looking forward to more story posts Mantis - proud to have flown with you for a year o7
+1 for the FG manlove fest  |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.16 19:25:00 -
[27] - Quote
FIRST GENERAL wrote:/emote blushes
Too much praise =) . I am just a run of the mil pod pilot really.
Looking forward to more story posts Mantis - proud to have flown with you for a year o7
Best Time I had in EVE 07 |

Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.16 20:35:00 -
[28] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:And by the way Damar I am getting to you. It would be impossible to mention Caldari history without mentioning you. You deserve a full book if not only a chapter..
*shrug*, as far as things go Gallente version is what everyone believes due to constant propaganda they have practiced in forums over the past years. to sum it up, in their opinion I fly cloaked and stabbed t1 frigates and never do pvp. I am also unemployed pedophile and live in a hole in the ground with the corpses of my victims.
And yet for some reason "we are all cool dudes in for good fites and not at all into drama-lama" people from that side of the border wonder why I consider them to be somewhere below the earthworm in evolutionary ladder.
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CrossedSwords
Spiritus Draconis
1
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Posted - 2011.10.16 20:41:00 -
[29] - Quote
Damar Rocarion wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:And by the way Damar I am getting to you. It would be impossible to mention Caldari history without mentioning you. You deserve a full book if not only a chapter.. *shrug*, as far as things go Gallente version is what everyone believes due to constant propaganda they have practiced in forums over the past years. to sum it up, in their opinion I fly cloaked and stabbed t1 frigates and never do pvp. I am also unemployed pedophile and live in a hole in the ground with the corpses of my victims. And yet for some reason "we are all cool dudes in for good fites and not at all into drama-lama" people from that side of the border wonder why I consider them to be somewhere below the earthworm in evolutionary ladder.
that pretty much sums it up yeah |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:22:00 -
[30] - Quote
Chapter Eight
Bishop Takes Rook
The game changed. The war changed. You see the thing about EVE is with every passing day your skills increase. The options of ships and tactics available to a pilot are ever-increasing. This golden rule must have slipped by the Old Guards of the Caldari Corporations that made up what remained of the CDI. This was the fatal flaw.
No longer did the Caldari have to use Guerrilla hit and run tactics against a much larger Gallente opponent. The playing field was being leveled and active PVPGÇÖers of months past could field much more sophisticated fleets. Everything from high-tech Recon Ships, Mighty Battleships, Fleet Command ships to Fleet Logistics were now available to the Caldari pilots that in the past where stuck in frigates and cruisers, a new breed of Caldari warriors (no longer in constant fear of being ganked by the mighty Gallente), were fielding more and more of them much to the delight of fleet commanders on both sides of the struggle.
As an officer of the Inglorious Bastards at the time it was becoming more and more apparent that my corporationGÇÖs frigate and cruiser guerilla tactics and fleet doctrine where becoming less and less needed as the Caldari Pilots began to experiment with new toys and tactics they wanted a fleet commander that knew how to wield them in battle and win on a consistent basis.
While charismatic and politically adept; Hidden Snake and his tactics where being consumed by the never stopping wheel of evolution. All the while he and Aurora Nyx knew what the Bastards needed to survive as a corporation and voiced these needs loudly in corp chat. They needed Fleet Commanders; not any fleet commanders but fleet commanders that were fluent in the tactics of advanced warfare, the types of fleets that were the equivalent of standing armies instead of the equivalent of special operations forces.
Hidden Snakes Aces as it seemed where all looking around corp chat at each other then across the table to the most obvious answer. That answer was sitting back arms folded behind his head staring at them with a sly smile. It was the Fox of Yria. Why hold onto the past and the tactics of the past when the future was now sitting across from them in a small and obviously welcoming corporation named Wolfsbrigade.
The most amusing aspect of this struggle to me was the fact that FIRST GENERAL never really seemed to exert any effort into letting the pieces fall into place. He would run fleets and run fleets well and as the saying goes, if you build it they will come.
GÇ£For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. GÇ£ Sun Tzu
Hidden Snake had one last chance at redeeming the Inglorious Bastards and the rest of what remained of the Caldari Old Guard. It was a risk but he was never a man shy of taking risks. His solution? Drop out of the Caldari Militia and form a Caldari loyalist band of Privateers that would actively seek out the Elite Gallente corporations such as QCATS and SOTF. His vision was that the Inglorious Bastards would swoop down mid engagement with Active War decks against the Elite Gallente Pilots and Pick them off mid combat fairly immune to any other incoming fire from the bulk of the federations forces the Federal Defense Union or any other Gallente Corporation the Inglorious Bastard chose not to hunt by not war decking.
Unconventional? Check. Crazy? Check. Brilliant? Check. That was the beauty of Hidden Snakes mind. If only it worked.
The Inglorious Bastards were in an Uproar. This is madness in its purest form many argued. Hidden Snake worked feverishly behind the scenes with the Officers and CEOGÇÖs of whar remained of the CDI.
Coldwing (one of the CDI member corporations) Led by Dan Pyre and JT133 gave snakes idea the cold shoulder.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse (another CDI member) Led by Dark Pangolin and XerxestheGreat promised to think it over but were not that excited about changing the way they conducted war.
Spacetime Enterprises (Another CDI) Led by Thor Gambino and Crew promised support but in the end they had to many fixed assets in space to just up and go.
Pillow Fighters Incorporated-PINK- (another CDI) had just gone through a massive corp theft and where in no position to do anything but recover anything they could if in fact it was not the deathblow of that corporation.
It was all falling apart for Hidden Snake and I felt obligated to stand by him in these darkest of times, I could not turn my back on my mentor. Maybe I had too much of the CDI punch to drink and was intoxicated with the Old Caldari propaganda. Maybe I felt sympathy for a great caldari leader that could do little but sit helplessly on his desk amongst a pile of pilot resignation papers. Even the unseen soldier Aurora Nyx just stopped logging in. The Inglorious Bastards corp chat once full of the best of the best the State had to offer was becoming more and more of a ghost town . At some point in time Snake might have contemplated approaching Draketrain with his idea and asked for some support but I assure you if that happened it would look something like this with me being the guy holding the cocunuts.
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:24:00 -
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While I tried my best to maintain what remained of the Inglorious Bastards along with Hidden Snake I was soon given the keys to all of Inglorious Bastards asset vaults given the CEO roles and title of what remained of the Inglorious Bastards Militia Office (CDI Milita) and the might Snake himself so disgusted as to how things turned out went on an extended vacation fro m EVE. He needed it if you ask me.
Two systems down the pipe in Yria the corporation office of the Wolfsbrigade had a line two miles long. Pilots came out of the woodwork to join Wolfsbrigade and experience what it was like to fly with FIRST GENERAL. For the first time what little W-BR officers had where absolutely overwhelmed.
For the first time ever FIRST GENERAL made his first political move, he waited and positioned all the pieces on the chessboard just right and with one fell swoop; Bishop Takes Rook, checkmate. And just like that, the dance between the Fox and the Snake was over.
The Old Guard was dead. CDI was Dead.
Wolfsbrigade was born and each and every pilot that joined Wolfsbrigade brought everything he had with him they all had the utmost faith in FIRST GENERAL. His charisma was all the leadership Wolfsbrigade needed and the Fleets he provided fed a pack of wolves now hungry and growling for blood. Blood it seemed was never too far away in the form of a Gallente Militia that had no idea what was about to hit them. Every night FIRST GENERAL provided the pack with blood and the pack of wolves grew and grew and grew............
To Be Continued
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:37:00 -
[32] - Quote
"It wasn't the beginning of the end. It wasn't the end of the beginning. It was the beginning of the beginning and the end of the end." - Ancient Gibberish |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:11:00 -
[33] - Quote
Chapter Nine
Running with the Wolves
Beaming with confidence now FIRST GENERAL would greet pilots in Caldari chat channels and fleet voice comms with GÇÿSo when are you going to join Wolfsbrigade?GÇÖ It kind of became the unwritten Wolfsbrigade corporation motto for a short time as the few Caldari Pilots that held out from the initial surge of applications were not only left with the question searing in their minds but all the welcome opportunity to join in the making of something Epic. A young Corporation filling up with top notch pilots and top notch Fleet Commanders. Resistance was truly futile.
In fact the only thing holding me back from applying to the Wolfsbrigade at the time is that I was suddenly left in charge of a two or three man corporation that was all that remained of the Inglorious Bastards. If I could not do anything to stop the downfall of the Inglorious Bastards the least I could do is hold up one last gesture of appreciation and gratitude to Hidden Snake. He deserved at least that much.
With the CDI dead and Hidden Snake missing from action I was relieved to see Hidden Snake log on from his two week vacation from EVE as I had him on my watch list. Without hesitation I opened a trade window with him and handed him back all the mods/ships and isk that remained in the corporation hangers and corporation wallet of the once high and mighty Inglorious Bastards. Well over 3 billion isk in both hard and liquid assets. I never was a big fan of corporation thieves and by God the impact Hidden Snake had on recent caldari history demanded he be shown nothing but courtesy an honesty from my side.
A few clicks on the mouse and Hidden Snakes Alt was reassigned CEO roles of what little had remained of the Once Mighty Inglorious Bastards.
I was free of the burden of responsibility.
I was now free to run with the Wolves.
Among my hanger of ships and mods I was thinking to myself what the fastest ship I had. It came down to a Raptor or a Crow. The Raptor had a warp speed of 13.5 au/s and a Crow had a warp speed of 9 au/s, hmmmm, Raptor it is then. I needed the fastest travel ship I could muster for the trip over to the nearest station with a Wolfsbrigades Office. Not contempt with the warp speed alone I fitted nanoGÇÖs to the low slots of the Raptor. I was in such a hurry to get to the Wolfsbrigades office I truthfully compared the warpspeed of both ships to see which one would take me there faster.
After submitting all the required information to FIRST GENERAL my corp chat was transformed in an instant from what seemed to be like a private chat with myself to a fanfare of all the famous pilots I loved to fly with of months and months past. W-BR corp chat was absolutely bustling with the faces of finest Caldari PVPGÇÖers I could name off the top of my head and then some. With a corporation so young to be blessed with so much experience in such a short notice of its lifetime the sky was truly the limit.
There comes a moment when you do fleet PVP. It is right after your ship explodes and you either are in warp in your tiny pod or suddenly in a station miles away. The moment when you think to yourself GÇÿthings can be so much better if we were more organizedGÇÖ.
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Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
9
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Posted - 2011.10.17 01:49:00 -
[34] - Quote
Epic tale of epicness... further confirming Mantis as one of my favorite EVE pilots :)
2 nits to pick...
- I was never and have never been a CEO/Director of The4 :) Nevare, Xerx, & At' is where the leadership titles belong...I just like pew pew...organized pew pew :P
I'm going to go ahead and claim credit for the "Red Squad" "Blue Squad" "Green Squad" color split fleet maneuvers...because i like credit and because it works well with an organized fleet and everyone should do it :)
MOAR STORY! GIVE US MOAR STORY! |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
12
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:37:00 -
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Chapter Ten
The Caldari Dream
If I ever wanted a United Caldari Front to Face a Beast Called the Gallente then the days of dreams and wishes were over. I was watching Wolfsbrigade make that dream a reality in front of everyone. A United Caldari without internal fighting and wardecs, a United Caldari above and beyond petty political disputes and territorial chest beating a United Caldari without Ego wars. A United Caldari with shared voice comms that insured information traveled as fast as light and with a few clicks of mumble any Caldari pilot could jump into the voice comms of any other corporation.
A Caldari Army Reborn and Standing Proud.
A United Caldari that Could actually now field Capital Ships fully confident it had the support it needed something unheard of just a few months earlier.
It did not matter what Caldari corporation you belonged to. If you needed help then help is what you got. If your POS was attacked you better believe at least 900 Million Tons of Battle ready pilots and ships was there to support you the second it came out of reinforce.
50-80-100-120 Man Caldari Gangs were becoming not a dream but something Pirates and Gallente had to deal with.
What was once only whispered in hush tones between young and wishful Caldari Pilots was now a reality for all to see.
When FIRST GENERAL or anyone in Wolfsbrigade asked for xGÇÖs in the general Militia chat for a GÇÿFIRST GENERAL FLEETGÇÖ the number of xGÇÖs was literally a mile long and took more than an hour just to organize into a fleet. I am not exaggerating. No shortage of People wanting to Experience a Wolfsbrigade Fleet.
This was not limited to the Caldari Militia. Even the Local Pirates wanted nothing more than to avoid being on the receiving end of a Wolfsbrigade Fleet. If pirates were not at the very least asking for blue standings they were docking the f*** up when they saw a Wolfsbrigade Fleet in local.
This brought a new level of PVP to Blackrise. When Wolfsbrigade finally moved to Enaluri it became the Capitol of Caldari PVP. Wolfsbrigade pilots and anyone blessed with living in Enaluri rarely needed to go to Jita. Wolfsbrigade Pilots did not go to Jita. Jita came to Wolfsbrigade Pilots.
We had an internal mailing list where all a pilot needed to do was drag a certain fitting to an evemail and less than 24 hours later his ship was on contract for him. Mods rigs and all.
Pilots flocked to join Wolfsbrigade from not only the Caldari but from Pirates in the Region and even Gallente pilots applied to join Wolfsbrigade.
An unspoken agreement was in place between Draketrain and Wolfsbrigade. Not only did they avoid fighting each other but they eyed each other with a mutual sense of respect. They knew that if they needed each other each would lend a helping hand. Not that any of these two parties needed any help to be honest.
Draketrain became so massive and organized that they started roaming nullsec to gank Supercarriers and look for someone, anyone, willing to face the Wall of Drakes usually reserved for the kind of fights seen only on SOV wars.
Wolfsbrigade became so massive that they actually started shooting POSGÇÖs in lowsec begging for a fight, begging for someone to drop a carrier or a dread fleet. They actively sought Large POS Towers with Faction Guns and Faction Mods to shoot and haul said faction mods away to fund the Wolfsbrigade warchest.
I recall a time when Wolfsbrigade wardecked a pirate corporation for nothing more than the fact that one of their pilots was camping the Ichoriya Gate and just happened to be in a smart bombing Raven. This Smart bombing Raven just Happened to Destroy the pod of a Wolfsbrigade Pilot named Rigel Vex peacefully on his way to highsec to buy something. Destroying a full set of expensive implants.
This cannot stand! This Will Be Dealt With!
The pilot was personally convoed by me and asked nicely to reimburse Rigel Vex for his lost implants and given 2 days to remove his corp pos from Ichoriya (the same POS he safed up in his cute little Smart Bombing Raven) his answer was:
GÇ£Lol Faction war noobsGÇ¥
^^BIG MISTAKE.
Less than an hour later all of his corporation received a nice little evemail informing them that Wolfsbrigade has declared war and them. It is not like we needed to declare war on them. We were in lowsec and I assure you Wolfsbrigade pilots had no qualms about going pirate against anyone. The wardeck was just to let them know exactly where their next fight was going to come from.
The POS was removed-Forcefully- and More than enough isk in loot was picked out of what remained of the corporation hangers to reimburse our pilot and keep our war machine funded for weeks to come. I personally transferred the reimbursement to Rigel Vex from the corporation Wallet.
You might think I am exaggerating. I assure you Wolfsbrigade Killboard is not hard to find.
To Be Continued |

Kordoc
Death Metal Rooster
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:34:00 -
[36] - Quote
Epic. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
12
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:38:00 -
[37] - Quote
Final Chapter
From the Shoulders of Giants
Towards the End of Wolfsbrigades time in The Caldari militia Wolfsbrigade simply became too big of a beast.
For a long period Wolfsbrigade leadership had a problem that any Pilot in EVE would love to have. Wolfsbrigade was to Strong.
If Wolfsbrigade came out in Full Force no one in their right mind would undock and face them. A fully decked Wolfsbrigade fleet was the equivalent of an Armored Battalion shaking literally shaking the ground.
What was once the Mighty Gallente Armada controlling the Space lanes from Tama to Old Man Star was now The Mighty Caldari Armada controlling the Space lanes from Tama to Old Man Star .
The Mighty Caldari Armada Made up of Draketrain and Wolfsbrigade.
It is unhealthy for a PVP corporation not to have fights. If a PVP corporation does not get fights then the wisest thing that corporation needs to do is move somewhere where there are fights.
And Blackrise was simply not big enough for Wolfsbrigade.
If you ask me I believe Wolfsbrigade outgrew even the wildest dreams of its founders.
The time for Wolfsbrigade to limit itself to the Caldari Gallente conflict was over.
Although this is not the whole story of the Wolfsbrigade and other chapters exist and are being written everyday it is the end of this story.
The story of Wolfsbrigades rise to the top of the Caldari Militia.
The Rise Of The Wolf
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
12
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:41:00 -
[38] - Quote
Epilogue
I am no longer a part of Wolfsbrigade. But for the time I spent in Wolfsbrigade I was literally flying among giants. I was blessed to fly under the flags of the best of the best Caldari War Machines.
I merely wanted to document a short time period in the life of the Caldari-Gallente Conflict for past, current and future Soldiers of both sides.
When you are flying through the Space from Tama to Enaluri to Old Man Star rest assured you are flying the same space lanes of countless battles.
You are treading on the same ground that giants walked and did battle in.
You are being watched by the spirits of countless Caldari and Gallente Soldiers that took it upon themselves to hold either the Gallente or Caldari flag high. If you listen closely you can hear their whispers. The Spirits of Thousands of Soldiers before You watching over your battles and edging you to fight harder.
What are you going to do?
Who will write the next chapter in the Saga that is the Caldari and Gallente War?
That is a legacy I hope the new breed of Gallente and Caldari Pilots continue.
The future is no yours now go out and shape it.
I am a Caldari Pilot.
My Name Is Stalking Mantis. And I once Flew With the Wolfsbrigade.
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:42:00 -
[39] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:An unspoken agreement was in place between Draketrain and Wolfsbrigade. Not only did they avoid fighting each other but they eyed each other with a mutual sense of respect.
I dont think you mentioned this but things went south rapidly after Caldari militia threw a tantrum because Draketrain refused to play ball and let them merge fleets with gallente to fight R&K. You dont talk or play with your enemy, you hate them and kill them.
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Mister Swift
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:02:00 -
[40] - Quote
*applause* |
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Jayem See
Drama Llamas
7
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Posted - 2011.10.17 09:48:00 -
[41] - Quote
Probably one of the best posts I have ever read.
Thanks for sharing that Mantis.
Epic. |

Bad Messenger
draketrain
2
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:15:00 -
[42] - Quote
Nice story.
Some things may be not quite true, example how to tank highsec is not really secret, many people have asked how to do it and i have answered. Only problem is that many of those techniques are so complex that they do not just get it.
Golden memories, bad things have been forgotten etc.... |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
20
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Posted - 2011.10.17 15:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
Bad Messenger wrote:Nice story.
Some things may be not quite true, example how to tank highsec is not really secret, many people have asked how to do it and i have answered. Only problem is that many of those techniques are so complex that they do not just get it.
Golden memories, bad things have been forgotten etc....
Nothing that deserves to look back on with anything other than pride. You and yours made Caldari history. Anyone arguing that is just being a fool. |

C3ph45
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 17:23:00 -
[44] - Quote
Mantis, It's amazing to know that all this was going on whilst my merry band of highsec carebears and I moved to lowsec and I set up BSLCA. I joined fleets, but my initial lack of PVP experience and hesitance at dying in a ball of fire (a regular occurrence to all who know me) meant that I was late in being added to intel channels, and didn't get to see the Big Picture.
Thankyou for enlightening me, and everyone else to what has happened in the past, and I will do my best to keep those spacelanes filled with the wrecks of Gallente ships, and carry the flag for those who got us this far.
For the State! |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
29
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Posted - 2011.10.17 19:02:00 -
[45] - Quote
FOR THE STATE |

Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
9
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Posted - 2011.10.17 19:37:00 -
[46] - Quote
Literally the only thread on here, which I haven't considered a waste of time reading.
GJGJ.
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grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.17 23:49:00 -
[47] - Quote
great reading +1
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Phero77
New Eden Resellers
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 01:56:00 -
[48] - Quote
Nice reading, very good job mantis!
+10
Old friend CF P |

Crimper
Wolfsbrigade
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 03:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
Very few stories are worth re-reading but this is one of them.
*Bookmarked*
Well done, Mantis. |

Rigel Vex
Hell's Revenge
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
I miss you buddy!
Loved the post :) |
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:44:00 -
[51] - Quote
Damar Rocarion wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:And by the way Damar I am getting to you. It would be impossible to mention Caldari history without mentioning you. You deserve a full book if not only a chapter.. *shrug*, as far as things go Gallente version is what everyone believes due to constant propaganda they have practiced in forums over the past years. to sum it up, in their opinion I fly cloaked and stabbed t1 frigates and never do pvp. I am also unemployed pedophile and live in a hole in the ground with the corpses of my victims. And yet for some reason "we are all cool dudes in for good fites and not at all into drama-lama" people from that side of the border wonder why I consider them to be somewhere below the earthworm in evolutionary ladder.
Damar, shut up for once and take some compliments. 
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Slikavo
Taco Hut
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 06:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
Best post I've ever read on the forums. o7 |

SaltyandSweet
Snuff Box
7
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
Azelor Delaria wrote:Damar Rocarion wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:And by the way Damar I am getting to you. It would be impossible to mention Caldari history without mentioning you. You deserve a full book if not only a chapter.. *shrug*, as far as things go Gallente version is what everyone believes due to constant propaganda they have practiced in forums over the past years. to sum it up, in their opinion I fly cloaked and stabbed t1 frigates and never do pvp. I am also unemployed pedophile and live in a hole in the ground with the corpses of my victims. And yet for some reason "we are all cool dudes in for good fites and not at all into drama-lama" people from that side of the border wonder why I consider them to be somewhere below the earthworm in evolutionary ladder. Damar, shut up for once and take some compliments.  its damar hes used to getting kicked in the nuts or his taters taken from him. |

Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:32:00 -
[54] - Quote
nice reading ....
.... btw u missed nice output of the alliance try ....
BATTLE IN HASMIJALA ;) |

Fenmor Hayden
Hole Plunderer's
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
Posting in an epic threat.
HI MOM!!!
Impressive, worth and definetly the most enlighting read ever in the EvE forums.
o7 you just got a new fanboy. |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
111
|
Posted - 2011.10.18 13:55:00 -
[56] - Quote
+1 Nice read old friend. Fantastic narrative of the CDI history. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
32
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:55:00 -
[57] - Quote
Hidden Snake wrote:nice reading ....
.... btw u missed nice output of the alliance try ....
BATTLE IN HASMIJALA ;)
Battle of Hasmijaala is the Stuff of Legends. It was a Major Caldari Salute worthy of the Inglorious Bastards.
And Let Me Go On The Record and Say it. Just in case it is not clear in the thread:
Hidden Snake and The Inglorious Bastards Are The Stuff Of Legends. |

BlackTrax
Black Rebel Rifter Club
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:59:00 -
[58] - Quote
Very nice read Mantis. It brings back memories of many good times. FIRST GENERAL Wolf Pack fleets of late 2010 were some of the most fun I have had in New Eden. -á FIRST GENERAL = BEST GENERAL -á BT |

YORK CRAFT
KRAFTWERK
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:46:00 -
[59] - Quote
As a '03 Pilot I have seen it all. And I can asure you, that some of the best PVPs and FCs of EVE have grown outa FW, no matter what faction.
FW is intense, demanding, taktical, strategic with constant pressure, so that even EVE entities like Pandemic Legion ( snigg waffe ) or BoB ( Black Nova ) sent their PVPs into FW to become hardend for war.
In the early days, during the first Periode of FW, we called it Darwins Law : Only the best survive. There was no discussion, no hesitation within fleets, those who lagged behind, lost contact to fleet or didnt follow orders, were doomed. Natural selection.
That might sound harsh and cruel, but you will understand it, when you KB check the epic battles that accured those days on regular basis. 150+ vs 150+ and myriards of drones assigned to the respective faction FCs. The deal was not outblobbing, it was Blob vs blob. And there was smooth cooperation between caldaris and ammars along with big time fun like this :
joined capkill ops
We had an EU primetime and we had a US primetime for Blobs, and still there was enough room inbetween for smaller roams. We had hillarious scirmishes with our favourite pirate corp Invicta ( now Snuff took their part ) like this one :
Dannehs Nightmare ( As far as I know, the most expensive single BS loss of FW history. Btw, I would be more than happy to see a KM posted in here that tops this, take that for granted.)
There was tons of smack, but at the end of the day respect for our enemies. Gals showed balls and jumped more than once into our camps. Not a big deal, you might say, but you have to take into account, that they lost more than 3 secs of battle cause of lag at that time. And the other way round, when we decided to jumpin.
Oh, and the antivenom for spies was not invented by Draketrains moto : everyone will be accepted, just apply. That used to be our politics the early days, froming fleets outa general militia chat and the major Corps. We just countered those spies, by seeding wrong intel. Sure, we checked KB stats as far as we could, but it was much easier to get into fleets along with the opportunity to show up as a valuable part of the team. In that case, it was less elite. We could easily affort open politics like this, what significantly changed during the third period of FW, what was understandable not possible anymore.
Also part of our tactics during the first and second Periode : the two pipe varriant. Means : one wing for the Kedama pipe, one wing for the Sujarento pipe simutaniously to meet up in Old Man Star at the same time to engage everything crossing our way and/or close system. And there was not at all a colony of sheeps in Nourv. We just could affort it to relax and/or rally in Nourv. Other than that, we came from Piak, if we wanted to, np.
So, was it all better those days ? No. It was just a different experience.
Me and many other proud veterans, who are active in Nullsec alliances, saw and still see FW evolving. Despite of them "unholy Politics" that seeded war within Caldari Militia, which was indeed a pain in the a$$. - So still I agree, and Mantis is not overrating the role of the heads during the third Periode of FW : Caldari adapted in a very smart way, like the gals did during the second Periode when Caldari were uber.
Yes, Hidden Snake, and this is the linky for Hasmijaala : true caldari history ... and this is the Mothership we manged to kill by batphone same time, same system : capkill
To sum it up : I urge everyone, whos just joining or is already in FW, show up with some decent Kills in advance. You will be invited, to support your FCs, CEOs, whatever : trust me, its not easy to keep the overview and its a hard job to be a leader, but ... very rewarding.
And now, I will give some more beef that comes to my mind spontaniously, not mentioned so far, but should be added for sure.
Corps : MoreCowbell, Steelsoldiers, Beyond Divinity (pies), aso. ( Check KB links above for more input ).
Excellent Soldiers, FCs, CEOs : GavinGoodrich, Chatgris, Necroman alias Flickstick Rick, Corwin, Tanaka, Psyflame, Andraz and many, many others. ( Check KB links above for more input ).
FW will not forget. At the end its all part of FW history as Mantis' adventure shows you in his nice write up. Its not all golden, true, Bad Messenger, but ones for sure : if you make it in FW, you make it everywhere.
And finally : First General. He is not the only Head left in Caldari/Ammar FW. There are corps like Four Horsemen along with Dark Pengolin, Hells along with Gunny and Superchair, - and some other uprising Corps/ FCs we need. But I knew, I could count on First General, when he suddenly appeared outa nothing. Well done m8 !
These are my 2cents, cause this thread is worth it / long live the State and a salute for all soldiers who died and die in silence.
Ps, Im still waiting for Gals/Minnies Book of History thread. |

Rigel Vex
Hell's Revenge
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:11:00 -
[60] - Quote
YORK CRAFT wrote:As a '03 Pilot I have seen it all. And I can asure you, that some of the best PVPs and FCs of EVE have grown outa FW, no matter what faction. FW is intense, demanding, taktical, strategic with constant pressure, so that even EVE entities like Pandemic Legion ( snigg waffe ) or BoB ( Black Nova ) sent their PVPs into FW to become hardend for war. In the early days, during the first Periode of FW, we called it Darwins Law : Only the best survive. There was no discussion, no hesitation within fleets, those who lagged behind, lost contact to fleet or didnt follow orders, were doomed. Natural selection. That might sound harsh and cruel, but you will understand it, when you KB check the epic battles that accured those days on regular basis. 150+ vs 150+ and myriards of drones assigned to the respective faction FCs. The deal was not outblobbing, it was Blob vs blob. And there was smooth cooperation between caldaris and ammars along with big time fun like this : joined capkill opsWe had an EU primetime and we had a US primetime for Blobs, and still there was enough room inbetween for smaller *Snip*
THREAD HI-JACK! |
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Rigel Vex
Hell's Revenge
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:12:00 -
[61] - Quote
*edit* |

Kat Bandeis
Space Pods Inc
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.18 18:10:00 -
[62] - Quote
Fantastic read! What we need is more of this kind of historical write-up for the sake of posterity! I know many would love to read more about the early battles, statecraft, and spycraft at work in the early years of Eve!
Thanks again for a beautiful write-up! --kat |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
35
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:03:00 -
[63] - Quote
This is a small piece of the Gallente/Caldari war.
I value all the input to this thread as long as it is serious.
York Craft (a Caldari star in his own right) your post is very welcome.
To many names for me to mention as I fought with and against thousands of pilots so again refer to my first post about forgetting to mention names.
Also if we ask Zeerover nicely he might provide us with the Battle of Hasmijaala Battle Report. |

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:32:00 -
[64] - Quote
Kat Bandeis wrote:Fantastic read! What we need is more of this kind of historical write-up for the sake of posterity! I know many would love to read more about the early battles, statecraft, and spycraft at work in the early years of Eve!
Thanks again for a beautiful write-up! --kat
+20, Great read! Here's another brief history of the Cal-Gal war written a 18 months ago that precedes Stalking Mantis' tale.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1282339-0/page/1#1
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Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
198
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:47:00 -
[65] - Quote
Maybe I should write up our perspective of current events. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
35
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:15:00 -
[66] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Kat Bandeis wrote:Fantastic read! What we need is more of this kind of historical write-up for the sake of posterity! I know many would love to read more about the early battles, statecraft, and spycraft at work in the early years of Eve!
Thanks again for a beautiful write-up! --kat +20, Great read! Here's another brief history of the Cal-Gal war written a 18 months ago that precedes Stalking Mantis' tale. http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1282339-0/page/1#1And somebody needs to do a writeup about the "Battle of Tama" in January 2011. This fight, FC'd by legendary QCAT chatgris, was a pivotal moment in FW history. http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8460050
/me approves of this message/service
The scattered history of the war should be gathered together |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
35
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:24:00 -
[67] - Quote
By All Means the Battle of Tama was Epic. Sadly I was Asleep/at work and missed it.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1443664-0/page/1
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sniper13
Wolfsbrigade
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.19 00:26:00 -
[68] - Quote
Stalking,
Epic read. Thank you. Having been on the same path, to have witnessed and been part of this story it nice to read the details and see acknowledgment of great fights, great leaders and players, great Corps., and more importantly the epic fun of FW.
Snipes
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
35
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:31:00 -
[69] - Quote
sniper13 wrote:Stalking,
Epic read. Thank you. Having been on the same path, to have witnessed and been part of this story it nice to read the details and see acknowledgment of great fights, great leaders and players, great Corps., and more importantly the epic fun of FW.
Snipes
Snipes you were there with me from the days of the Inglorious Bastards.
I would like to take a second to confirm that no one from Wolfsbrigade from the top all the way down would disagree with me that Wolfsbrigade would never have reached where it reached without the efforts you put into it. Everyone in Wolfsbrigade knows exactly what I mean. Thank You.
-Cheers |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
35
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:36:00 -
[70] - Quote
Battle Report for the Epic Battle of Haasmijala.
O and a big Salute to Bicardi Desire and the soldiers he brought to Wolfsbrigade from the 8th Order.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1411005-0/page/1 |
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Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
9
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Posted - 2011.10.19 06:04:00 -
[71] - Quote
Hai York! Hai Blacktrax, you're my huckleberry! Long time no see!
I am glad to see that this thread has been getting so much attention. It gives me hope that FW will grow and continue to produce some of the most battle hardened PVPers I have ever known and flown with. This thread is well written. +1 to Stalking Mantis for being a solid pilot and good poster. All the pilots and corps mentioned in it deserve to be mentioned, all the pilots and corps not mentioned in it also deserve to be mentioned. This however, is Mantis's story, as he remembers it. Not our story or your story, Mantis' story. He was there, I was there too. There was much epicnes, and politics, and pew pew...I was there...I think CCP made a video about it :)
If you have something different to tell, write it up and post it. We will all take exception to some of the things that are mentioned here and with some of the things that are not mentioned (I do), but overall its a darn fine story as Mantis experienced it. I would love to hear the Gals point of view on events. The only thing better than a good friend is a good enemy, keeping us on our toes and innovating...or we die in fire.
-DP of The4, the little corp that could...we were there, we still are. Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:01:00 -
[72] - Quote
There have been a number of legendary fights in FW in the last 18 months.
One of the major ones that seems to have been forgotten is the legendary battle of enaluri. Maybe someone could find an accurate report?
A rallied caldari militia fleet of about 90 fought a total of 200 enemies (with supercaps on field multiple times) over the time of 2 hours if i recall correctly. The fleet/combat only ended when PL brought a AHAC/T3 Logi blob which there was no point in fighting without a major re-shuffling of our own fleet.
Blacktrax <3 - hit me up some time!
York <3 - good ol' ECM Boy.
Dark Pangolin <3 - for not giving a crap about politics and just wanting to win.
Sniper13 <3 - one of the guys without whom all that we have achieved would not have been possible.
___________________________________________________________
NB. W-BR is still recruiting! Hit us up if you can/or are willing to fly (and lose) Abaddons  Grab your shot today at becoming part of the epic Tale Mantis has told in this thread. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
35
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:50:00 -
[73] - Quote
FIRST GENERAL wrote:There have been a number of legendary fights in FW in the last 18 months. One of the major ones that seems to have been forgotten is the legendary battle of enaluri. Maybe someone could find an accurate report? A rallied caldari militia fleet of about 90 fought a total of 200 enemies (with supercaps on field multiple times) over the time of 2 hours if i recall correctly. The fleet/combat only ended when PL brought a AHAC/T3 Logi blob which there was no point in fighting without a major re-shuffling of our own fleet. ___________________________________________________________ NB. W-BR is still recruiting! Hit us up if you can/or are willing to fly (and lose) Abaddons  Grab your shot today at becoming part of the epic Tale Mantis has told in this thread.
Long Battle where a Pirate corp with 0.0 friends thought they would set up a POS in Enaluri in Wolf Country. Major Battle to remove them happened afterward One Two
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Eran Mintor
Imperial Outlaws
2
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:01:00 -
[74] - Quote
I'm disappointed this story was cut short before getting into depth about how W-BR got stomped by Amarr after their move to Kamela. I heard rumors of CF giving out blow-jobs to fund all the nanite paste FG used up from overheating his MWD while running from battle!!
Haha, totally kidding. Kudos FG and shout-out to W-BR o7
Nice read, I was disappointed to see it end! |

Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
10
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:13:00 -
[75] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:FIRST GENERAL wrote:There have been a number of legendary fights in FW in the last 18 months. One of the major ones that seems to have been forgotten is the legendary battle of enaluri. Maybe someone could find an accurate report? A rallied caldari militia fleet of about 90 fought a total of 200 enemies (with supercaps on field multiple times) over the time of 2 hours if i recall correctly. The fleet/combat only ended when PL brought a AHAC/T3 Logi blob which there was no point in fighting without a major re-shuffling of our own fleet. ___________________________________________________________ NB. W-BR is still recruiting! Hit us up if you can/or are willing to fly (and lose) Abaddons  Grab your shot today at becoming part of the epic Tale Mantis has told in this thread. Long Battle where a Pirate corp with 0.0 friends thought they would set up a POS in Enaluri in Wolf Country. Major Battle to remove them happened afterward OneTwo
::Cough Cough:: instigated by The4 against 7th cav and co ::Cough Cough:: Teamwork is fun! That was a good fight. Further proving PL can not be trusted <.< |

subtle turtle
Wolfsbrigade
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:29:00 -
[76] - Quote
Excellent read! And yes, FG is one of the best FCs I have flown with, although I came after the Caldari days.
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BacardiDesire
0utbreak Outbreak.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 00:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
spelled my name wrong 
nevertheless one of the best forum threads i've seen on these new forums so far! even took me 5 mins to find out how the frack im supossed to log in and post on this
having said that, wolfsbrigade and stuff, its was awesome to see how many pilots dedicated themselve to what someone said or wanted to do, got a good impression even if it was a short stay for me
I still want to apologise for the things that happend back there FG, if you read this 
I raise my glass to you wolfsbrigade o7 |

Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
4
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Posted - 2011.10.20 02:14:00 -
[78] - Quote
I did a battlereport of the fight from our side and Chatgris did one from his side. It was a fantastic fight and even if chatgris bested me there I still count it as the best night I've had in EVE.
Quote:A battlereport of The Alamo in Tama - having fun when things become ******ed: Last night we form up the usual late shift patrol. We quickly kill any target in Tama and head off on a roam. Coming up to Heydelies we banter in local about finding nothing to fight... turns out we would. A few minutes later scouts report a 30 man fleet is heading right for us. We're in Abune and get stuck, but managed to find and fight our way out, and head back to Tama. In the process we get new people into the fleet. Our numbers rise to 51 (which was the max in fleet during the whole fight). It's divided into two wings, with the primary wing sitting on the Kedama gate at optimal. Gallente jump in. We kill them and hold the field - a brief sense of victory, but spirits are high! Some good pilots have to leave fleet for RL reasons as our numbers fall a little. Then the Gallente come back, and an epic fight of willpower & attrition begins. They are using their now familiar kiting tactics against our Drake/Cane heavy gang. We have a mix of veteran and new players, but it doesn't hamper us in the start. The initial battle goes well, but things start to lag. We warp on top of them, they burn to 70k. Their Lachesis'es are key to holding onto a single friendly while their fleet pounds. We kill their long range tacklers, but they keep reshipping in new ones. Both sides reship and resupply several times. Ship types become more random, we become a militia:) Then Pirates appear. They are in few numbers and get dispatched by whichever fleet is closest, though I see they get counted on our side in the eve-kill battlereport. Lag starts to become hard for any player that still has brackets on. I'm unable to have anything showing except war targets. I ask for people to broadcast the close wrecks to get a fleet warp-in. It's during one of these that we notice that someone in a carrier has joined our fleet... Gallente manage to burn out as we land over and over, by now we're starting to see which pilots to repeatedly kill, and which we're unable to unless we land on top of them. Excellent piloting on their part considering that fatigue must be setting in on all sides. As the second hour draws to a close we're starting to get continuously outmaneuvered, and we're now gone from winning to losing badly. So we go back to a rallying point to build up numbers again. We won't give up on holding the field though. There's billions in loot on it. People not get forever to rally up. It becomes a battle of willpower. Calls go out for X'es on all channels, even general militia, we get some people, our fleet swells back to 46, sadly half never fight in any organized fashionSad We continue fighting and we lose many ships, though we have many kills in this last period. It went full ******. All experienced pilots on fleet voice stare at the battlefield in disbelief, the newbies ask "this normal for you guys?". In the end it becomes apparent we cannot hold the field by willpower alone, and have to call it quits. The final battlefield had wrecks stretching 750km from the gate in one direction and 300km in the other. We killed 76 and lost 186 by the last BR. We were soundly beaten in the end, but we also felt happy. All in fleet agreed it was more fun than we've had in months, and it was incredible learning experience in attrition battles in high-lag environments. Few of us had experience with 3 hours of continuous fighting. Now 40 more CalMil fighters have. My hat is off to Chatgris for leading our enemies. Never seen anything like it. Kiting and maneuvering non-stop for 3 hours. I'm waiting with bated breath for that video. Also thanks to the Gallente militia members to gave us loot from the battlefield after the fight. To our fleet members, thank you. It was a blast. When we do this again, we'll be the winning side:) To our detractors. Keep theorycrafting, we'll be fighting! Though you might be right, since fools rush in where angels fear to tread, the experience our newer fleet members gained today will bear plenty of fruit for the Caldari Militia in the future. I was repeatedly being called primary for about a third of the fight, and spend a lot of time warping between tacticals and off field with secondary taking over. Now I need to go run missions for 4-5 hours to replace the 3BS, 1 HAC, 1 Recon & 2 BC's I lost. Leading by example I guess, even in losses. To all who partook on all sides: True Gladiators you are! Damn I love Faction War. |

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:49:00 -
[79] - Quote
Best part of being in W-BR is the comms chatter. We have quite the mix and at any giving time an entire group of people can all fall of chairs because of the laughter.
Crimpers "Male Logic spreech" springs to mind for some reason. Fleet had to sit at a gate for a while because no one could talk to give jump, warp or shoot commands.
Not that we don't shut up when clear comms hits the waves. 20 or so minutes after that happened we got a call a carrier was tackled. We burned 17 lowsec jumps reshipped and got 1 carrier and 1 fagout. Self-distruction is evil. Plus managed to lul **** some pirates using a PI customs office as a bouncer spot. WTF dumbasses.
Anyways Manti, nice history lesson. Was always a blast. You ever get bored with Null Sec which is insanely easy to do cause it sucks balls, you know were we live. |

Laechyd Eldgorn
draketrain
10
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Posted - 2011.10.20 12:58:00 -
[80] - Quote
I took liberty of adding this story to evelopedia for making links and adding pics/videos/battlereports whatever related more easily. I am pretty bad with editing web **** so go ahead and improve the article. TIA
I am no FW fan of any sort but it was good read.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Wolf_-_A_History_of_the_Wolfsbrigade_Rise_to_the_Top_in_the_Caldari_Militia
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
39
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Posted - 2011.10.20 21:41:00 -
[81] - Quote
By all mean if someone is good at this evlopedia editing feel free to add maps battle reports and such. |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
2
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Posted - 2011.10.21 09:47:00 -
[82] - Quote
Awesome thread. Gives some real insight into the Caldari/Gallente warzone for those of us on the "other side of the pond" in Min/Amarr. (:
I almost feel like someone from our side needs to step up and come up with a history like this. ^^ |

March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
17
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
i'm sorry but should you manage to outnumber gallente forces by 10x that day you would have no losses at all..... 
... or you have hidden something other behind this shameful statistics?
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:36:00 -
[84] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:By all mean if someone is good at this evlopedia editing feel free to add maps battle reports and such.
Here is the pos killmail from high-sec Villore. Unfortunately the actual battle report has disappeared from Eve-Kill long ago. I seem to recall we destroyed about six battleships in process of stopping them repairing the POS before downtime (rf timer was conviniently timed to come out during dt).
What we killed while putting it reinforced, if we killed anything at all that is, I cannot recall. |

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
39
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:40:00 -
[85] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:i'm sorry but should you manage to outnumber gallente forces by 10x that day you would have no losses at all.....  ... or you have hidden something other behind this shameful statistics?
The battle of Hasmijaala was historic in the sense that: 1-It was the First Major Battle The Caldari Banded together to push the Gallente back with authority in a very long time 2-It was a major show of support to Hidden Snake and the Inglorious Bastards 3-It was a 4 day battle royale for all four factions as well as MC and PL
P.S. Did someone from Shadow of xXDEATHXx just insinuate outnumbering an opponent is nothing to brag about? I mean given the recent nullsec events and all. |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
53
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:16:00 -
[86] - Quote
Good read |

March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
17
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:31:00 -
[87] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:March rabbit wrote:i'm sorry but should you manage to outnumber gallente forces by 10x that day you would have no losses at all.....  ... or you have hidden something other behind this shameful statistics? The battle of Hasmijaala was historic in the sense that: 1-It was the First Major Battle The Caldari Banded together to push the Gallente back with authority in a very long time 2-It was a major show of support to Hidden Snake and the Inglorious Bastards 3-It was a 4 day battle royale for all four factions as well as MC and PL thanks for the info
Stalking Mantis wrote: P.S. Did someone from Shadow of xXDEATHXx just insinuate outnumbering an opponent is nothing to brag about? I mean given the recent nullsec events and all.
you know: i'm 0.0 carebear. So i have no connections to politics, blobs and other dirty stuff. So i will ALWAYS point to wrong things in "pvp" 
Funny thing is: i never seen on this forum one from DRF or xxDEATHxx bragged about blobs/backstabbing/outnumberring.... Well maybe i don't watch forums well. 
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Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
39
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:51:00 -
[88] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote: P.S. Did someone from Shadow of xXDEATHXx just insinuate outnumbering an opponent is nothing to brag about? I mean given the recent nullsec events and all.
you know: i'm 0.0 carebear. So i have no connections to politics, blobs and other dirty stuff. So i will ALWAYS point to wrong things in "pvp"  Funny thing is: i never seen on this forum one from DRF or xxDEATHxx bragged about blobs/backstabbing/outnumberring.... Well maybe i don't watch forums well.  My friend, DRF was attacked and had an overwhelming response where they outnumbered there opponent, nothing wrong with that. Kind of the same thing happened with Hasmijaala. 
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Bluejacket CT
Percussive Diplomacy
1
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:14:00 -
[89] - Quote
Nice read.
(P.S. I'm glad you snuck a battle raptor reference in there.) SLAPD - CEO |

Bluejacket CT
Percussive Diplomacy
1
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Posted - 2011.10.25 02:51:00 -
[90] - Quote
Also - lots of butt licking in this thread. SLAPD - CEO |
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Selar Nox
0
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:59:00 -
[91] - Quote
Great read! |

Neaon Sadari
No Moral Constraints
1
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:05:00 -
[92] - Quote
Nice read, I remember being some what of a pawn in many of those stories, interesting to read exactly(albeit from a perspective) what went on.
Makes me want to get into FW once more. |

Tropic9
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
0
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:38:00 -
[93] - Quote
Good read indeed. Makes me miss the days of living in Tama with Wolfy. |

Lord Ryan
True Xero
68
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:12:00 -
[94] - Quote
Best thread! -á
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:42:00 -
[95] - Quote
Nice read. Very well written post.
Being a late USTZ player I didn't get to fight as many of you as I would of liked.  Is sexy time? |

Vixisti
Shadows Of The Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.25 22:43:00 -
[96] - Quote
Well done Mantis, it was a fascinating insight into the Caldari war machine who were my mortal enemy for so long.
Favourite enemy FC's to fight against were Andraz way back in the early days of FW and FG. As Gallente pilots we knew these guys would not only bring it, but stick around even if it didn't look like it was going to be their day.
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Liquid Shock
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2011.10.26 16:45:00 -
[97] - Quote
Good read!
Shame I wasn't a part of all this history. Only really got into FW February this year. |

Joey Wallace
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.26 20:51:00 -
[98] - Quote
Great read!
Anymore campfire history lessons for us younger FW pilots?  |

Natascha Kerenski
Immortal Legion
2
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Posted - 2011.10.29 07:22:00 -
[99] - Quote
Thank you Mantis for this amazing recapitulation of our History
Reading it really makes me go through all that again
damn i miss those times and flying with the legnedary first wolf and andraz |

Phattecia
United Space Sphere Coalition Property Management Solutions
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 16:21:00 -
[100] - Quote
EX-PFI reportin in 07
confirming what ramingo said on the 1st page about the CDi, but it took all of us to make it work
caldari militia gave the sharp edge to my pvpness, great place for new peeps to learn the ropes
i GÖÑ the history in this game, and i GÖÑ the fact someone wrote this down, ty mantis!
thx to Thor Gambino for showing me this :)
thats all i got o/ |
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Asaface
Mafia Redux Merciless.
3
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Posted - 2011.10.31 07:37:00 -
[101] - Quote
Best read on the forums, EVER! Long may that be the case EPIC READ +1 |

Super Chair
Hell's Revenge
23
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:09:00 -
[102] - Quote
Good read mantis. o7 |

praznimrak
Level Up
0
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:08:00 -
[103] - Quote
BEST POST EVER My youtube chanell: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveOnlineGameplay |

Raubrey
Red Galaxy S I L E N T.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.02 09:41:00 -
[104] - Quote
Thanks for sharing your time and talent, Mantis. It is a gift to the Eve community to be sure. |

EVIL SYNNs
Second Places
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:21:00 -
[105] - Quote
/me coughs.. and leaves the tread!
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Graelyn
Wolfsbrigade
63
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:01:00 -
[106] - Quote
It's nice to know the history of this fine bunch of pilots I joined a while back.
They don't talk about it all that much. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit"
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XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
83
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Posted - 2011.11.07 08:31:00 -
[107] - Quote
Thanks for the thread, was an awesome read and definitely filled me with nostalgia for my time in the conflict even if it was limited. Flying with the 8'th and under Bacardi was a privilege and full of lulz. Even with FW in the state it is in the personalities and conflict that has risen from it has been completely awesome. The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
195
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Posted - 2011.11.07 11:48:00 -
[108] - Quote
Self-serving Caldari bollocks as usual. Nothing new or interesting. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Animated Corporate Logos |

Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
19
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:18:00 -
[109] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Self-serving Caldari bollocks as usual. Nothing new or interesting.
I'll go get John. Tell him to service you under the table properly. You're obviously not enjoying your self good sir.  |

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
24
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:46:00 -
[110] - Quote
Graelyn wrote:It's nice to know the history of this fine bunch of pilots I joined a while back.
They don't talk about it all that much.
Well most of W-BR are shy, kind people who never troll or show off to either outside corpies or corpies themselves.
Also W-BR history and no "Sync for his epic 1 liners" good god mantis have you any idea how much i put into those....yeah even I stop here. Cause even I know I spend next to no time doing anything. |
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
50
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Posted - 2011.11.09 00:45:00 -
[111] - Quote
Greatest FW thread ever. Seriously, great job dude.
If there ever were a metaphor for Caldari FW inner workings, this would be it:
Fleshgod Apocalypse - The Violation
There is none more epic than this. I see your dubstep and raise you one shotgun blast to the face. |

Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.11.09 17:17:00 -
[112] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Self-serving Caldari bollocks as usual. Nothing new or interesting.
To quote immortal words of Bad Messenger: "When was the last time you were relevant to FW?" |

Graelyn
Wolfsbrigade
74
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:48:00 -
[113] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Self-serving Caldari bollocks as usual. Nothing new or interesting.
I've always held the opinion that your joyless ****pail persona was just an RP thing.
It's nice to be wrong every so often. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit"
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Stalking Mantis
Wolfsbrigade
88
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:46:00 -
[114] - Quote
One bump for the 'Lives In Low Sec Writing Contest' started by Mord Fiddle in his Fiddler's Edge EVE blog.
Not looking for glory but Caldari PVP'ers deserve their story be told as most 'L33T' nullsec alliances think Faction Warfare pilots can not fight. In my Opinion dropping 50 supercarriers on someone is not fighting. |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
182
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Posted - 2011.11.18 03:20:00 -
[115] - Quote
LOL! Wolfsbrigade, attempted to fight a 7+ man gang of you guys in Gulm with 3 'Tics, gave you enough time to check the surrounding systems for blobs and gain intel, warped our fleet to the top belt and invited you to fight, and you RAN AWAY.                                    
Heretic Army CEO Host of Frigfry Fridays
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
42
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Posted - 2011.11.18 04:50:00 -
[116] - Quote
You mad?
Damn us listening to our FC and not derping. Damn us to hell. |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
182
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Posted - 2011.11.18 07:42:00 -
[117] - Quote
sYnc Vir wrote:You mad?
Damn us listening to our FC and not derping. Damn us to hell.
What about that statement indicates anger? There are 36 LOL faces. I think its hilarious.  Heretic Army CEO Host of Frigfry Fridays
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Xuse Senna
15
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Posted - 2011.11.18 12:43:00 -
[118] - Quote
Thank you for this epic story ^_^ |

Rio Orti
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.25 15:09:00 -
[119] - Quote
Freaking AWESOME!!
ItGÇÖs always a pleasure to read what a gifted person has to write about what can be done by those who simply decided to work together! This story (and names) should be included in the books and kids all over the Caldari State should learn about it at school! 
My humble and sincere congratulations to Mantis and to all who had any kind of participation (among all races) in this epic history! Strength and honor to all who still fight for the State!
Bookmarked!!
GLORY TO THE STATE!
Rio
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Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:30:00 -
[120] - Quote
Nice read. Not many things to laugh so not the best on the forums IMHO, but still, pretty damn good and for sure time expensive. Someone pointed me to this post just tonight so I'm sorry if this seems as poking a dead horse. 
I'm relatively new to FW but the W-BR fame is not unknown to me (possibly being killed more by them then doing the killing myself - Your Malediction from last month being the only one I can remember). What I don't get is the rest of the history. You say W-BR has outgrown the dreams of its founders... Why did they join the Amarr? Fresh start? Fresh targets? Bad air on the Caldari side of things? I could easily ask some old Gallente hands, but since You are/were spilling the guts... Please? |
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Super Chair
Project Cerberus
95
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:43:00 -
[121] - Quote
Desra Mascani wrote:Nice read. Not many things to laugh so not the best on the forums IMHO, but still, pretty damn good and for sure time expensive. Someone pointed me to this post just tonight so I'm sorry if this seems as poking a dead horse.  I'm relatively new to FW but the W-BR fame is not unknown to me (possibly being killed more by them then doing the killing myself - Your Malediction from last month being the only one I can remember). What I don't get is the rest of the history. You say W-BR has outgrown the dreams of its founders... Why did they join the Amarr? Fresh start? Fresh targets? Bad air on the Caldari side of things? I could easily ask some old Gallente hands, but since You are/were spilling the guts... Please?
W-BR blued a lot of it's available targets on the caldari front, even gallente militia. (As to why, to quote a former member of SOTF, "W-BR got raped by us all the time"). WB-R is not in FW for the sake of FW, but rather building up as a proxy for nullsec (the caldari militia is rather used to this, members of the "old gaurd" regularly take bets on what member counts proxy corps want to reach before leaving militia ). While W-BR was still enlisted in the caldari militia it would show up to rep Shadows of the Federation (a gallente corp) when other caldari militia corps were fighting with SOTF. Eventually W-BR and SOTF made an alliance for some time and split up due to conflicts of interest. When the alliance did this, WB-R still had a majority of the caldari militia's high SP pilots so it made sense to join the amarr front and begin recruiting amarr pilots out of the corporations there, in preperation for their second attempt at forming an alliance. While there is talk about W-BR being caldari patriots and what not, its all fluff. There is nothing substaintial behind such claims, and such claims are only made to appear like they're batting for the team and perhaps attempt to sweep some of their past actions under the rug, such as when W-BR betrayed their militia and repped SOTF during engagements. The fact is that the only team they're on is their own.
Aside from all this, the amarr front has more hotdrops and cap warfare for them to batphone raiden. on. Another good reason to go amarr. |

FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade
11
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:40:00 -
[122] - Quote
To answer Desra's questions first :
These are the facts without any storytelling Desra:
When WBR started out in caldari militia, the caldari militia was broken and in shambles. Gallente Militia had a lot more manpower available at any and all given times, so it was completely understandable that we recruited like mad. A lot of people simply signed up because our fleets and fights were on average won a great many times more often than any fights where the fleets were led by other caldari corporations. This again is wholly unsurprising - if you have a certain measure of success, people will join you.
This led to WBR topping out at 186 pilots somewhere right when the main Gallente Militia corporation at the time, SOTF, left for 0.0 (R.A.G.E. alliance) to try something different. With that the main leader of the Gallente Militia and the main "heavy muscle" provider for them had left and taken about 120 pilots with them. The other EUTZ Gallente militia coporations could no longer muster the pilots to fight a corporation that had by itself 70-80 people online at primetime EU. We were then starved of fights and activity dropped right until the moment where SOTF, bored from 0.0, came back into FW.
We had stayed in touch with them over the duration of their hiatus because they are a bunch of nice blokes really (<3 Gall). When they then got back, we had a couple of OP's together in 0.0, enjoyed ourselves together, and decided to do the alliance thing.
Up until the moment where we were in the alliance together we consistently shot each other when we weren't in fleet for op's. Superchair grossly misrepresents what happened in "fleets" because what he refers to is the times where we were in fleet together with SOTF, quite literally on the way to another destination, and then either gallente militia guys agressing WBR or caldari militia guys agressing SOTF and OFC we repped them since they were in a fleet with us. The pilots who did the agressing and were convo'ed and told to gtfo and didn't and subsequently died - well nobody's fault but their own.
When the alliance came to an end due to irreconcilable differences in play styles we were already in Kamela and simply decided to stay there. We then signed up for the amarr militia simply because the Amarr/Minmatar area was quite hot and is actually still quite decent providing activity for hungry pilots.
This should shed some light on the things you asked about Desra  |

FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade
11
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:51:00 -
[123] - Quote
Now on to Superchairs allegations:
First off, the mandatory : Superchair, show me on the doll where W-BR touched you.
1. We didn't blue anybody, and especially not Gallente militia. You can refer to my post above for the explanation in regards to the confusion that was had by everyone in both militia's up until we were formally in an alliance.
2. Yeah of course we lost fights against the Gallente, especially in the beginning, much much less and won our fair few share towards the end. To quote another SOTF member "its unbelievable the progress you guys have made in such a short time".
3. As for your "old guard" members, they should really stop flying purger drakes and ravens without prop mods if they ever want to stop getting laughed at.
4. We never had a lot of "high-sp" caldari pilots; however all W-BR pilots always exactly trained the pvp ships that were required making it appear as though we'd have a lot of high sp pilots. We never did though. Today that's different of course.
5. As far as our loyalty goes: We're loyal to our friends and allies. Whichever flag we fight under, we do so with motivation, honor and dedication.
6. Although it may seem to sore people like you that the only team we're on is our own, fact is that when you fly with an organised group which supplies more numbers to the front lines than you do, then you'll have to adapt to them not the other way around. Can't believe people are still bringing this crap up just because we insisted on people training for Abaddons a little over a year ago (worthy of note : the so-called "old guard" still preferred to fly propmodless torp ravens instead a year later).
To finish off the irony of it all:
YOU went with your corporation Hell's Revenge into 0.0 (but failed and came back) W-BR never did.
As for the traitor allegation, well suffice to say that YOU sprang over to Quantum Cats when things were not going so well in caldari militia and left all your friends behind and came to shoot at them instead.
Do everybody a favor and go be butthurt in somebody else's thread, or for a change, man up, and rebuild the caldari militia the way YOU think it should be and earn some respect that way. |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus
95
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Posted - 2012.01.05 17:33:00 -
[124] - Quote
FIRST GENERAL wrote:Now on to Superchairs allegations:
First off, the mandatory : Superchair, show me on the doll where W-BR touched you.
1. We didn't blue anybody, and especially not Gallente militia. You can refer to my post above for the explanation in regards to the confusion that was had by everyone in both militia's up until we were formally in an alliance.
2. Yeah of course we lost fights against the Gallente, especially in the beginning, much much less and won our fair few share towards the end. To quote another SOTF member "its unbelievable the progress you guys have made in such a short time".
3. As for your "old guard" members, they should really stop flying purger drakes and ravens without prop mods if they ever want to stop getting laughed at.
4. We never had a lot of "high-sp" caldari pilots; however all W-BR pilots always exactly trained the pvp ships that were required making it appear as though we'd have a lot of high sp pilots. We never did though. Today that's different of course.
5. As far as our loyalty goes: We're loyal to our friends and allies. Whichever flag we fight under, we do so with motivation, honor and dedication.
6. Although it may seem to sore people like you that the only team we're on is our own, fact is that when you fly with an organised group which supplies more numbers to the front lines than you do, then you'll have to adapt to them not the other way around. Can't believe people are still bringing this crap up just because we insisted on people training for Abaddons a little over a year ago (worthy of note : the so-called "old guard" still preferred to fly propmodless torp ravens instead a year later).
To finish off the irony of it all:
YOU went with your corporation Hell's Revenge into 0.0 (but failed and came back) W-BR never did.
As for the traitor allegation, well suffice to say that YOU sprang over to Quantum Cats when things were not going so well in caldari militia and left all your friends behind and came to shoot at them instead.
Do everybody a favor and go be butthurt in somebody else's thread, or for a change, man up, and rebuild the caldari militia the way YOU think it should be and earn some respect that way.
No, a fight would be going for a good ten minutes before w-br "showed up" to rep SOTF. That's not a joint roam, just saying.
I'm one of many who share this perspective on what happened then. You can attempt to discredit it, by all means.
I gave an answer from the perspective of those still left in the caldari militia, if thats enough to warrant a wall of text from yourself, heres a doll you can show everyone on doll where I touched you. |

FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade
11
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Posted - 2012.01.05 18:00:00 -
[125] - Quote
Quote:No, a fight would be going for a good ten minutes before w-br "showed up" to rep SOTF
An allegation is something that is not supported with evidence. Either "pics or gtfo" as they say.
And yes i know that there are some people who've had their feelings hurt a lot when we wouldn't let them fly propmodless torp ravens or purger drakes with AB's.
/emote points at the dolls mouth - that's what you used to blow me. |

Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.01.05 21:34:00 -
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@ superchair - your 100% wrong mate, the only time wbr repped us was when we were fleeted together - never on any occasion were reps from either side used to help the other unless we were in a fleet heading somewhere (which was normally away from black rise). Whenever we weren't fleeted we were 100 % shooty shooty each other.
FG's description is pretty much spot on tbh.
Also, don't turn a really good topic and write up into the usual ****** flame fests, not cool. |

Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
0
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:40:00 -
[127] - Quote
FIRST GENERAL wrote:.......Either "pics or gtfo" as they say.......
I always thought they say ****... <-- EDIT: Automatic censorship on the forums? Just because of ****? Unbelieavable.
Anyway, thanks for the answers and the spectacle. I'm not sure if I should ask such questions in the future or just STFU for the sake of Mantis' thread (and others too].  |

Stalking Mantis
Wolfsbrigade
132
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Posted - 2012.01.05 22:53:00 -
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OMG MY BEAUTIFUL THREAD 
Super Chair what are you doing?
There is a particular reason this thread only mentioned the positive aspects of that time period. Reason being it is meant to be an insperational story to those on the underdog's side like the currect state of the Caldari for example.
There is no shortage of bad blood and history within the Caldari Militia yet to shine the light on the positive and the good is what differentiates this thread from every other mudslinging FW thread. The message and insperation it tries to convey to the reader.
Why you want to come in here an start slinging mud in my thread is beyond me but if you are trying to re-establish yourself as a Caldari leader you truly are going on about it the wrong way.
Please there is no shortage of mud to be thrown around as is evidenced by every other FW thread in these forums.
If anything I ask all (for the sake of the message this thread tries to convey to the Caldari at this moment in time in particular) to keep this thread a positive one.
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Super Chair
Project Cerberus
95
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:58:00 -
[129] - Quote
Stalking Mantis wrote:OMG MY BEAUTIFUL THREAD  Super Chair what are you doing? There is a particular reason this thread only mentioned the positive aspects of that time period. Reason being it is meant to be an insperational story to those on the underdog's side like the currect state of the Caldari for example. There is no shortage of bad blood and history within the Caldari Militia yet to shine the light on the positive and the good is what differentiates this thread from every other mudslinging FW thread. The message and insperation it tries to convey to the reader. Why you want to come in here an start slinging mud in my thread is beyond me but if you are trying to re-establish yourself as a Caldari leader you truly are going on about it the wrong way. Please there is no shortage of mud to be thrown around as is evidenced by every other FW thread in these forums. If anything I ask all (for the sake of the message this thread tries to convey to the Caldari at this moment in time in particular) to keep this thread a positive one.
I supposed you're right in the regard that they're arent really any positive threads. I still have my opinion on the matter, but i'll just leave it at that.
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
94
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Posted - 2012.01.06 13:13:00 -
[130] - Quote
A guy that once probed down a Caldari fleet while in Caldari and warped the Gals on to it, complaining about WTS fleeting together... Hmmm.
I would make some other comments but alas it would make you mean something, and you really don't. |
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
139
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Posted - 2012.03.17 00:44:00 -
[131] - Quote
Just to top Off the WBR Story.
Wolfsbrigade Killed a Pandemic Legion Titan.
Proving for all Militia Pilots that the sky is the limit. |

Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
139
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:00:00 -
[132] - Quote
Also Hats Off to the Inter-Militia co-operation that made it happen. Qcats and Shadows of the Federation.
People complain about blue ops but there is a time and place for them. Like this occasion.
Bravo Good Job Guys o/ |

Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
172
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:28:00 -
[133] - Quote
Wow. Very nice. Hopefully someone can write up a detailed BR for this as a separate thread.
http://amarr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12761777 If you want Empire and FW space enhanced, Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66900&find=unread |

sniper13
Wolfsbrigade
2
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:59:00 -
[134] - Quote
Keep in mind you have to be skeptical of anything that superchair states in regards to FW and Cal militia during that period. This is the same guy while in CAL militia would routinely give intel on militia fleets to the GALs because of his personal vendetta against one person in Militia. So, his perception of reality is flawed at best. I remember during that period some really good fleets with SOTF but when we were not fleeted, it was game on and we fought like beasts against each other. Anyway, the life of WB-R member is a very rewarding experience; never-ending fun. |

Viktor Bjorn
Dewa Brotherhood Stainwagon.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:19:00 -
[135] - Quote
I know we weren't exactly a huge corp... but no mention of the Legion? ;) |

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
163
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:31:00 -
[136] - Quote
Viktor Bjorn wrote:I know we weren't exactly a huge corp... but no mention of the Legion? ;)
Dont worry, he left me out as well. |

Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
29
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Posted - 2012.03.18 03:49:00 -
[137] - Quote
Since it hasn't been throw into this thread yet.
Our BR
Our vid
You can go on k.com or fhc to read more about our planning, can't be bothered to cross post everywhere:) [img]http://i.imgur.com/Qrwa2.png[/img] |

Atraxerxes
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
4
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:27:00 -
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To Stalking Mantis. Great read. Someday, if not already, those who were involved will appreciate this and link back to your recap of the second third of the great war as a measure of pride.
To X Gallentius. I never saw that recap of the first third of the war, but it was an excellent read. I had almost forgotten some of those old names. Thank you for the walk down memory lane.
To the next young pilot enlisted on either side. Take notes, I look forward to reading your accounts of this next chapter. Hopefully they will smile on us once again.
For the State!
AX "Death is the Road to Awe" |
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