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Mastertz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:55:00 -
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Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:59:00 -
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People tell me Justin Beiber is interesting... I just don't see the appeal.
It is almost like taste is individual and what people like based on different criteria.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1097
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:01:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:People tell me Justin Beiber is interesting... I just don't see the appeal.
It is almost like taste is individual and what people like based on different criteria.
No! Never say it is so! 
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Lord Fudo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:01:00 -
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Mastertz wrote:Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together.
I just showed someone the stream and they thought it looks awesome.
Plus EvE is interesting. That stream has over 8400 viewers right now. The system is packed and players waiting to get inside. |
Leetha Layne
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:03:00 -
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It's like people enjoy different things!!! |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle
Tactical Narcotics Team
756
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:05:00 -
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I'm watching the stream at work, the gamers came over to watch at my desk.
They all agreed that I'm wasting my time in EVE and how the commentary sounds like a scripted sales pitch.
I agreed and stopped watching.
I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner.
Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall
I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1097
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:08:00 -
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Lord Fudo wrote:Mastertz wrote:Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together. I just showed someone the stream and they thought it looks awesome. Plus EvE is interesting. That stream has over 8400 viewers right now. The system is packed and players waiting to get inside.
How are you getting a good stream?
All I'm getting is a static image advertising the event and a blinking light claiming that whatever I'm seeing (not much) is 'live.'
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
240
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:09:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'm watching the stream at work, the gamers came over to watch at my desk.
They all agreed that I'm wasting my time in EVE and how the commentary sounds like a scripted sales pitch.
I agreed and stopped watching.
QFT
Not today spaghetti. |
Mastertz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:11:00 -
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Lord Fudo wrote:Mastertz wrote:Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together. I just showed someone the stream and they thought it looks awesome. Plus EvE is interesting. That stream has over 8400 viewers right now. The system is packed and players waiting to get inside.
CCP Shill identified. |
Goldnut Sachs
10
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:14:00 -
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Mastertz wrote:Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together.
tell your pal to check again in a few years for space barbies |
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
875
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:20:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'm watching the stream at work, the gamers came over to watch at my desk.
They all agreed that I'm wasting my time in EVE and how the commentary sounds like a scripted sales pitch.
I agreed and stopped watching.
oh cool can i have your stuff? enjoy pandas!
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point?
-áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Dave Stark
2075
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:22:00 -
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to be fair
watching eve, is the most dull **** i've ever seen.
Want miners to move from high sec to null sec?
Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts.
Really isn't difficult. |
Din Chao
186
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:31:00 -
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My friend tried to get his wife into EVE. She hated it. Yet he never considered running to the forums to yell at CCP employees for it. His mistake, I guess... |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2806
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:35:00 -
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Eve is not a spectator sport.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:38:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:My friend tried to get his wife into EVE. She hated it. Yet he never considered running to the forums to yell at CCP employees for it. His mistake, I guess...
I'm guessing hes probably a pretty normal guy. Doing normal stuff.
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Sentamon
783
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:04:00 -
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Mastertz wrote:Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together.
EvEl UI isn't all that well designed for streaming. Maybe SoonGäó?
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Homowners
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:44:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'm watching the stream at work, the gamers came over to watch at my desk.
They all agreed that I'm wasting my time in EVE and how the commentary sounds like a scripted sales pitch.
I agreed and stopped watching.
oh cool can i have your stuff? enjoy pandas!
EVE is like a highly exclusive club . . . that nobody really wants to join.
But one occasion, someone will want to come inside, and will create 2-6 imaginary friends to invite as well.
Without those imaginary friends, EVE would have probably closed it's doors by now.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3809
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:53:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'm watching the stream at work, the gamers came over to watch at my desk.
They all agreed that I'm wasting my time in EVE and how the commentary sounds like a scripted sales pitch.
I agreed and stopped watching.
Same situatioin, but quite the opposite result of viewing the stream... especially when they switched the overview to show how many people were actually fighting instead of just showing the cap ships involved. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
539
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:54:00 -
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"Gamer", in today's market, generally means a member of the instant gratification crowd .. people whose most played games are WoW, CoD, GoW, HL2 with "achievements!" out the wazoo and the like.
Eve is pretty (with proper camera placement ) and offer rewards far exceeding those of any other game around, problem is that they don't manifest in the way that most 'gamers' are accustomed to .. there is no "Ding!" as it were.
In this game of ours you can sweat, bleed, kill and cry for weeks, months or years and suddenly notice that you have mortal enemies, life-long allies and is part of an empire larger than an entire WoW server .. Eve is :effort: and community more than a simple game .. we log in to chew the fat, shoot someone in the face (with ISK or bullets) and then chew some more fat, often with the vanquished foe who then either becomes mortal enemy or life-long ally.
There is a theory that everyone in the world can be connected by fewer than six steps, I'd wager that is at least doubled in most games (random people doing random things) and halved in Eve (the opposite of previous bracket).
Some people are content with having friends and getting likes on Faecesbook and grinding in anonymity in "insert generic game", perhaps your 'gamer friend' is one of those or perhaps your just didn't manage to get it across that Eve is almost impossible to quantify within the framework of other games.
Either way, do it again .. only let him actually try the game. Have a few brews, let him shoot someone, then arrange for a massive overkill hot-drop by a bored null entity and finish by going to said entities home systems and kill some more while buying everything in the sector and putting it back on market at a hefty mark-up .. point is, there is more to Eve than flashing lights.
:Insert inane Eve4Ever quote/signature here: |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:35:00 -
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I thought I was invited to a PvP/PvE EVE live event. Instead it was an extras call for a marketing ploy that cost me a lot of time and isk. Getting outright ganked by someone turning the Concord switch back on unannounced was just outright underhanded.
Yes, I feel abused and put up wet.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:37:00 -
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Lord Fudo wrote:Mastertz wrote:Wow, kil2 you are selling this really hard. Except I invited a gamer friend of mine over today to watch what I've been talking to him about Eve forever so he could "get" it. After watching the stream he's not really sure what the big deal is. It looks pretty gross with all those lasers and effects and those blobs of ships balled together. I just showed someone the stream and they thought it looks awesome. Plus EvE is interesting. That stream has over 8400 viewers right now. The system is packed and players waiting to not get inside.
Fixed that for you....
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1101
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:39:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:I thought I was invited to a PvP/PvE EVE live event. Instead it was an extras call for a marketing ploy that cost me a lot of time and isk. Getting outright ganked by someone turning the Concord switch back on unannounced was just outright underhanded.
Yes, I feel abused and put up wet.
Concodokken Surprise never dissapoints - Comedy for the whole family!
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1188
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:40:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:I thought I was invited to a PvP/PvE EVE live event. Instead it was an extras call for a marketing ploy that cost me a lot of time and isk. Getting outright ganked by someone turning the Concord switch back on unannounced was just outright underhanded.
Yes, I feel abused and put up wet.
Concodokken Surprise never dissapoints - Comedy for the whole family!
Yup, that's exactly why they stated yesterday there would be no ship reimbursements for anyone attending the "Live Event".
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:42:00 -
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EVE isn't for everyone vOv
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Zircon Dasher
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:49:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:It is almost like taste is individual and what people like based on different criteria.
The guys in my marketing department got a kick out of this.
Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |
Alara IonStorm
4702
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:53:00 -
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Zircon Dasher wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:It is almost like taste is individual and what people like based on different criteria.
The guys in my marketing department got a kick out of this.
No product reaches everyone unless it's the Little Red Book but that was at gunpoint and telling people what they want has a lot more to do with convincing people then forcing it.
Marketing doesn't control the market, it just trumpets their little corner of it. |
Athena Maldoran
Special Nymphs On A Mission
719
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:23:00 -
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I've never seen so many trolls collected in one thread  |
Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1587
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:41:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:I thought I was invited to a PvP/PvE EVE live event. Instead it was an extras call for a marketing ploy that cost me a lot of time and isk. Getting outright ganked by someone turning the Concord switch back on unannounced was just outright underhanded.
Yes, I feel abused and put up wet.
Wait...
Your upset because you shot at somebody that was no longer a suspect. Concord never left.. I saw them popping people right from the start that don't understand aggression.
So yeah don't blame CCP when it was you that changed your little button from green to red. Being Green you could have still shot at all the suspects. And it would not have allowed you t shoot at somebody that you had no aggression to.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Gabriel Santagalos
EVE University
Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:03:00 -
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Quote:
Wait...
Your upset because you shot at somebody that was no longer a suspect. Concord never left.. I saw them popping people right from the start that don't understand aggression.
So yeah don't blame CCP when it was you that changed your little button from green to red. Being Green you could have still shot at all the suspects. And it would not have allowed you t shoot at somebody that you had no aggression to.
Listen to him, he speaketh the truth. I got concordokkened myself because i set the Safety to red and our FC broadcasted a Nonsuspect Target. Buhu, big loss. For all the "We Eve Players are so hardcore, we gargle Stones and excrete Sand" that is usually going on in these forums, there sure is a lot of whining all the time. |
Alayna Le'line
National Liberation Force
Nomads.
78
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:14:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'm watching the stream at work, the gamers came over to watch at my desk.
They all agreed that I'm wasting my time in EVE and how the commentary sounds like a scripted sales pitch.
I agreed and stopped watching.
oh cool can i have your stuff? enjoy pandas!
To be fair, the commentary did sound like a bloody marketing script, I just muted it. |
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