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Derdrom Utida
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:25:00 -
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What happened wasn't sandbox, everything was scripted and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
You can't tell a story in EVE and truly involve the players because they'll just destroy everything and then spam local, every time. We're lucky that we were able to see an important Titan according to the lore go down at all.
BUT CCP SAID THAT WE CAPSULEERS ARE IMPORTANT. HOW DARE THEY LIE TO US
Only way this could have been avoided is if they handwaved everything, and that's lamer than allowing people to be there as events unfold. You're entitled, and in reality, this doesn't affect the gameplay of any capsuleer at all. This is just lore, and is for people that RP. Not everything is to be catered to you. |
Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:38:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:
People don't appreciate being lied to their face, breaking news! (CCP advertised the event as something capsuleers could influence)
What people don't take into the equation (due to their previously mentioned entitlement issues) is that players in EVE are limited in their response when there are tons of people in a system. I mean, if the lore director in CCP wants to tell a neat story between X an Y and this titan being downed is the catalyst for this to occur, then he should be completely allowed. Why? Because you can't have everything in lore dictated by who has the bigger blob. |
Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:46:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:You're right but being right doesn't change the fact that CCP lied by advertising the event as being one that could be influenced. And they didn't need to lie. And people don't like being lied to.
You're also right that CCP should've made the event more friendlier to blobbing.
But this whole notion that Live Events can be steered by smallsons that fleet up and head out to ~ruin the RP'ers fun~ is stupid. CCP should get up, distance themselves from the "emergent gameplay" crowd and focus on telling the story their way, and allowing capsuleers to just watch. |
Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:52:00 -
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William Loire wrote:The point of a sandbox and an MMO is to give the players the chance to influence the fate of the world.
Yep. It's called null sec.
William Loire wrote:If CCP wants to tell a story without capsuleer influence then make a trailer, they're good at that.
Yeah, if we can't directly affect every single action that lore characters do by killing them (because that's all you can do), then you should just. Make. A trailer. Mmhmm.
William Loire wrote:Don't advertise the event as something capsuleers will decide and then drop 20 Moros' on top of the Caldari fleet point blank range.
I'll give you this. CCP shouldn't advertise something that isn't, but this topic goes beyond just the Battle of Caldari Prime.
William Loire wrote:Nobody cares that the Titan went down. We all want to see that pretty wreckage in DUST matches. We do care (especially us Caldari players) that an important event in Caldari history was determined by a bunch of Developers in capital ships purposefully putting one side's capital ships in a ****** tactical position.
I'll give you that, too. But that goes specifically on this event, not the general mentality of the RP crashers that seek to blob every Live Event ever. |
Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:01:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Go read a book if you want a set in stone story arc. Meanwhile, I'll play EVE. Side note, TS-F loves our Activists.
This would imply that EVE's story isn't set in stone. It much-so is, save for interactivity with lore characters. But capsuleers have never directly influenced anything, and I think I'm not the only one who is fine with that. |
Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:03:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:Derdrom Utida wrote:Inkarr Hashur wrote:You're right but being right doesn't change the fact that CCP lied by advertising the event as being one that could be influenced. And they didn't need to lie. And people don't like being lied to. You're also right that CCP should've made the event more friendlier to blobbing. But this whole notion that Live Events can be steered by smallsons that fleet up and head out to ~ruin the RP'ers fun~ is stupid. CCP should get up, distance themselves from the "emergent gameplay" crowd and focus on telling the story their way, and allowing capsuleers to just watch. You know, it not a single one of your posts do you acknowledge the lie that occurred. It just hit me.
CCP claimed that capsuleers would have more of a say in this event, and didn't pull through. Lie acknowledged, my point still stands. |
Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:06:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Derdrom Utida wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Go read a book if you want a set in stone story arc. Meanwhile, I'll play EVE. Side note, TS-F loves our Activists. This would imply that EVE's story isn't set in stone. It much-so is, save for interactivity with lore characters. But capsuleers have never directly influenced anything, and I think I'm not the only one who is fine with that. You apparently missed the subtle hint about a Live Event that was very much influenced by Capsuleers.
Only one that I can really name off the top-of-my-head is the event where Fatal was killed. Were there others?
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