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Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:33:00 -
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really, how many "this was scripted" posts need to be made for you to own up?
30 dreads blaping a titan was a TAD obvious, but no counter attack? really? CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

Inkarr Hashur
Sine Nobilitatis
277
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:36:00 -
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I'm just mad no Gallente civilians got Doomsday'd. And I'm not even emotionally invested in either the Feds nor Statists. Hold a hostage at gunpoint, the cops spend 20 minutes barging down your door, you don't just kill the hostage? |

Steve Spooner
Divine Spirit DSM Strategic Operations Brigade
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:37:00 -
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From before the event even started people were saying the whole thing was scripted, and violaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it was ******* scripted. What did you expect? CCP actually tell the truth to the players and tell us "no matter what you do the Titan will die". Oh but the marketing. |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
18
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:59:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:From before the event even started people were saying the whole thing was scripted, and violaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it was ******* scripted. What did you expect? CCP actually tell the truth to the players and tell us "no matter what you do the Titan will die". Oh but the marketing.
lol, yup, but so long as we win in dust, all the gallentes efforts were in vain
CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

Actus Ner
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
0
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:00:00 -
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Doomsdays only work in nullsec, it's unlikely CCP wanted to mess with game mechanics just for a live event |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
18
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:13:00 -
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Actus Ner wrote:Doomsdays only work in nullsec, it's unlikely CCP wanted to mess with game mechanics just for a live event
-_-
so we would have been better off with 30 dreads of our own then?
ya, so scripted CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
7
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:37:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:I'm just mad no Gallente civilians on the planet got Doomsday'd. And I'm not even emotionally invested in either the Feds nor Statists. Hold a hostage at gunpoint, the cops spend 20 minutes barging down your door, you don't just kill the hostage?
Actually I like it this way better. That way the State can say they were all humanitarian and did not kill all those people. Instead they can rage against Gallente for endangering the civilians and causing the deaths and whatnot (look up Endor Extinction Event :P).
Black and white is too simple.
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Inkarr Hashur
Sine Nobilitatis
280
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:06:00 -
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Pytria Le'Danness wrote:Inkarr Hashur wrote:I'm just mad no Gallente civilians on the planet got Doomsday'd. And I'm not even emotionally invested in either the Feds nor Statists. Hold a hostage at gunpoint, the cops spend 20 minutes barging down your door, you don't just kill the hostage? Actually I like it this way better. That way the State can say they were all humanitarian and did not kill all those people. Instead they can rage against Gallente for endangering the civilians and causing the deaths and whatnot (look up Endor Extinction Event :P). Black and white is too simple. That's incredibly disingenuous as you can't call a kidnapper humanitarian if he decides not to kill his hostage. Mutually Assured Destruction isn't a black and white concept, but a morally grey one. |

iyammarrok
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
20
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:16:00 -
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FFS.
At no point did anyone say the entire event revolved around the destruction or survival of the damned titan.
PEOPLE ASSUMED IT WAS.
oh look. They were wrong.
HTFU and get over it. The real event is the current battle on the ground and in space to determine the lore OWNER of the planet after the dust settles.
is that not obvious enough. you want to try to affect the end result, get out there and choose a side, don't sit here providing sweet tears due to a single aspect of the event being scripted. |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:20:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:Pytria Le'Danness wrote:Inkarr Hashur wrote:I'm just mad no Gallente civilians on the planet got Doomsday'd. And I'm not even emotionally invested in either the Feds nor Statists. Hold a hostage at gunpoint, the cops spend 20 minutes barging down your door, you don't just kill the hostage? Actually I like it this way better. That way the State can say they were all humanitarian and did not kill all those people. Instead they can rage against Gallente for endangering the civilians and causing the deaths and whatnot (look up Endor Extinction Event :P). Black and white is too simple. That's incredibly disingenuous as you can't call a kidnapper humanitarian if he decides not to kill his hostage. Mutually Assured Destruction isn't a black and white concept, but a morally grey one.
ahem, whos planet was it to start off?
what's that? caldari you say?
problem solved CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2250

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Posted - 2013.03.23 00:45:00 -
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Titan doomsdays are hardcoded not to work in high sec. There was no way we could used it without rewriting fundamental game code, something that wasn't feasible. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1156
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Posted - 2013.03.23 01:23:00 -
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I assume creating a custom 'QA' item that imitates the function of a DDD without technically being one isn't a possibility? Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
155
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Posted - 2013.03.23 01:49:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Titan doomsdays are hardcoded not to work in high sec. There was no way we could used it without rewriting fundamental game code, something that wasn't feasible.
/pop a few Federation capitals? :P
Either way it was well presented overall. The State Navy lost and the point was made. :) Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
184
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Posted - 2013.03.23 02:47:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I assume creating a custom 'QA' item that imitates the function of a DDD without technically being one isn't a possibility? Exactly.
Why can't you create a dummy module that shows the DD fireworks then use your dev tools to make a Gallente Dread explode. /kill Gallente_Dread_5 |

Tiber Brucato
The Voidstalker Heresy
2
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Posted - 2013.03.23 03:30:00 -
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If you give a mouse a cookie... |

Inkarr Hashur
Sine Nobilitatis
285
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Posted - 2013.03.23 03:46:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Titan doomsdays are hardcoded not to work in high sec. There was no way we could used it without rewriting fundamental game code, something that wasn't feasible.
You know, a lot of people mistook the point of the event to be about the Titan. Including me. Did you guys anticipate that? There's been absolute silence since the last news post, for a long time now. |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
21
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Posted - 2013.03.23 03:57:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Titan doomsdays are hardcoded not to work in high sec. There was no way we could used it without rewriting fundamental game code, something that wasn't feasible.
so....why didn't the caldari get a dread blob then? seems it would have been more effective for holding a planet hostage then a ship that is incapable of using the one thing it exists for, shooting a doomsday weapon at anything stupid enough to poke it  CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

iyammarrok
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
30
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:04:00 -
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They used RP to show the DD firing instead. and allowed it to target subcaps.
be happy that they did that at all rather than just saying 'CONCORD stopped it working'
also, she was keeping the DD ready to fire at the planet in the case of her loss. it was the capsuleers in the battle that apparently stopped her from cracking the crust of Caldari Prime as her last act.
So. if nothing else, the fact that the Caldari still have a 'home' to fight for is in the hands of those who were defending the planet against the orders of an insane executor and his provist lackeys. |

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
92
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:03:00 -
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Calathorn Virpio wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Titan doomsdays are hardcoded not to work in high sec. There was no way we could used it without rewriting fundamental game code, something that wasn't feasible. so....why didn't the caldari get a dread blob then? seems it would have been more effective for holding a planet hostage then a ship that is incapable of using the one thing it exists for, shooting a doomsday weapon at anything stupid enough to poke it  EDIT: thank you for responding 
Exactly. This is the problem everyone is having with RP in EVE. To create RP magic you need to be able to trust the GMs to bend the laws of physics, in this case hardcoded system mechs. For a game loosely styled on MtG they've not been able to take the exceptions to the rules far enough.
I enjoyed the event's so far. All three of my bods were involved in some way. From populating the Luminare market with ammo only to have a State alt buy it all up( ... that was a big deal btw) to the frustration of getting locked out of Luminaire and having perceived vital storyline courier missions impeded, on to scrapping with hostiles on the gates along side Fed Navy brethren. You make your own game.
Sure there are tonnes of things I'd have done differently, but I'm not running the show, I'm taking part in it.
Letting the plot slip on test servers is a big no no tho, I guess you don't need to be told that. |

hollandnavigator
Viperfleet Inc. Transmission Lost
1
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:18:00 -
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Normally I don't reply, but was the CONCORD BS not DD?
Was even in local, DD cooling down.....
Sorry, but please explain that then. |

DiKKy Heartiez
Hearties Industrial Incorporated
5
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:27:00 -
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Obviously CCP favours the Gallente. This is most likely due to the many new players(n00bs) in their ranks.
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Alesius Lerance
Worlds Without Boundaries
0
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:47:00 -
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How are we supposed to continue fighting for Caldari prime when no one has suspect flags or marked as "In the hostile fleet" ? |

Sobach
Fourth Circle
95
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:49:00 -
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Alesius Lerance wrote:How are we supposed to continue fighting for Caldari prime when no one has suspect flags or marked as "In the hostile fleet" ?
by logging into Dust? |

Tykari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
123
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:49:00 -
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hollandnavigator wrote:Normally I don't reply, but was the CONCORD BS not DD?
Was even in local, DD cooling down.....
Sorry, but please explain that then.
As I understand it the DD didn't fire, it was just a bit of RP fluff to make it seem as it had. They just used dev commands to make the CONCORD / DED ship go pop, and said the DD was responsible for it or something along those lines. In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness. |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
24
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Posted - 2013.03.23 16:51:00 -
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hollandnavigator wrote:Normally I don't reply, but was the CONCORD BS not DD?
Was even in local, DD cooling down.....
Sorry, but please explain that then.
the DD never fired, the caldari navy supporters basically insta-splated the ship from what i understand CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

motgus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.03.23 17:08:00 -
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Calathorn Virpio wrote:really, how many "this was scripted" posts need to be made for you to own up?
30 dreads blaping a titan was a TAD obvious, but no counter attack? really?
I don't know why this is a surprise, CCP LOVES making terrible in game live events. Their excuse is clearly crap, I would just set your expectations as low as possible for future in game events. |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
24
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Posted - 2013.03.23 17:44:00 -
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motgus wrote:Calathorn Virpio wrote:really, how many "this was scripted" posts need to be made for you to own up?
30 dreads blaping a titan was a TAD obvious, but no counter attack? really? I don't know why this is a surprise, CCP LOVES making terrible in game live events. Their excuse is clearly crap, I would just set your expectations as low as possible for future in game events.
pretty much, just setting up pilfering ships from now on might as well make a profit from them
 CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |

iyammarrok
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
36
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Posted - 2013.03.23 18:08:00 -
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Calathorn Virpio wrote:hollandnavigator wrote:Normally I don't reply, but was the CONCORD BS not DD?
Was even in local, DD cooling down.....
Sorry, but please explain that then. the DD never fired, the caldari navy supporters basically insta-splated the ship from what i understand
GM Kill command was used to pop the DED Battleship. Local Channel RP stated it was the DD.
That is all.
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Toluijin Chagangan
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
41
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Posted - 2013.03.23 18:10:00 -
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motgus wrote:Calathorn Virpio wrote:really, how many "this was scripted" posts need to be made for you to own up?
30 dreads blaping a titan was a TAD obvious, but no counter attack? really? I don't know why this is a surprise, CCP LOVES making terrible in game live events. Their excuse is clearly crap, I would just set your expectations as low as possible for future in game events.
Mmmmmm. Goontears. Cry some more. |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
203
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Posted - 2013.03.23 18:17:00 -
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iyammarrok wrote:Calathorn Virpio wrote:hollandnavigator wrote:Normally I don't reply, but was the CONCORD BS not DD?
Was even in local, DD cooling down.....
Sorry, but please explain that then. the DD never fired, the caldari navy supporters basically insta-splated the ship from what i understand GM Kill command was used to pop the DED Battleship. Local Channel RP stated it was the DD. That is all. Why didn't they use that on the Gallente Dreads?
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