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Bad'B0y
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Bad''B0y on 28/08/2005 13:42:16
last time I tried to ransom a brutix in my rax, I got jumped by gankathron(brutix dude was telling me that he needed to get isk from his corp..), was lucky to finish brutix and escape tho, but that was last time I ever try to ransom any1, from now on its just death to everything I find
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:44:00 -
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yea sometimes, but always give them like 20seconds to pay. no matter what excuses they bring up, they either pay quickly or die.
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K3NDY
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:01:00 -
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yeah, im not realy a pirate, i used ransoming 2 times and got 20mil each time. had to put a guy into a pod and scramble that before he would pay up (so so tempted to splat his pod when he smacked in local but as a merc im not allowd to drop below -1.9, need to enter high sec for targets)
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Karistis
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:12:00 -
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i still ransom :)
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:34:00 -
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Snigg do.
 Originally by: James Lyrus
Complaining about PvP and Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:40:00 -
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we do if we are using scramblers
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Temi
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Posted - 2005.08.28 15:17:00 -
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i ransomed a pirate once :P
but then my drones decided to not care and kill him anyway and i had to send the money back etc (as im like pretending to be honourable etc!)
dident try it since :S
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.08.28 15:58:00 -
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We call it Indulgence on my ship 
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.08.28 16:06:00 -
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Petition inc generally do. Oh, and you only get one ransom, so if we ransom your ship, and you say no, we dont bother with ransoming the pod.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.08.28 16:31:00 -
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Meh, I try to ransom every now and then, but it usually doesnt work.
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E0wyn
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Posted - 2005.08.28 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
Snigg do.
snigg most certainly do not ransom.
2 of our guys where taken by suprise in belts from snigg
snigg where in a HAC my friend was in a ferox. no chance to pay, just instant death and loss of the pod.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.08.28 18:01:00 -
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I do about 30% of the time these days.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.28 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: E0wyn
Originally by: Ikvar
Snigg do.
snigg most certainly do not ransom.
2 of our guys where taken by suprise in belts from snigg
snigg where in a HAC my friend was in a ferox. no chance to pay, just instant death and loss of the pod.
Well I'm sure that your friend who has encountered us once knows better than I do. We do not ransom 100% of the time. The situation in the sytem at the time may prevent us from doing so, we may not think the target is worth ransoming or we may just not want to. We do however ransom quite often.
Originally by: James Lyrus
Complaining about PvP and Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper |
Espen
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Temi
i ransomed a pirate once :P
but then my drones decided to not care and kill him anyway and i had to send the money back etc (as im like pretending to be honourable etc!)
dident try it since :S
well, that's wierd, drones can't attack pods.
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FooB2
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:45:00 -
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or he ransomed a ship
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Temi
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Espen
Originally by: Temi
i ransomed a pirate once :P
but then my drones decided to not care and kill him anyway and i had to send the money back etc (as im like pretending to be honourable etc!)
dident try it since :S
well, that's wierd, drones can't attack pods.
i was refering to the ship ;)
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.29 10:21:00 -
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In GUC I would always try and ransom if i wasnt attacking at a gate unless a ransom was offered.
No more pirating for me..
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Suladriel
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Posted - 2005.08.29 12:51:00 -
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I always try ransom first, unless its another pirate, then its a duel to the death.
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maximyus
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Posted - 2005.08.29 12:56:00 -
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only once and i got 30mil
i'm 2 much a suker for kill mails
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.08.29 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 29/08/2005 13:06:40
Originally by: Bad'B0y
Edited by: Bad''B0y on 28/08/2005 13:42:16
last time I tried to ransom a brutix in my rax, I got jumped by gankathron(brutix dude was telling me that he needed to get isk from his corp..),
When I hear that, I just blow them up because they are lieing. Anyway, I'd ransom but the sentries don't exactly allow for it. If I catch you in a belt I will give the chance though.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.08.29 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 29/08/2005 13:14:55
ROAARR, TDG and BNCL do ranson in 0.0 or low sec roidfields. At empire gates or station we do not ransom unless the target pilot convos in time (before the shooting starts).
reason:
- sentry guns dont give enough time for a ransom.
- snipers cannot scramble
I asked CCP to add some sort of toll function in EVE long ago...what never happened. A "strike-colors-button" wich would make it unesseairy to gank the ship and give some time to barther about the tolling price. I dont know how players and CCP can expect us to do tollings while sentry guns knock on our ship structure. We just gank in empire and grab the loot. And we podkill. If you want to evade a podkill ask to pay a toll BEFORE you see the flashing red ships!!!
quick guide to survive an empire camp:
-> after jumpin stay cloaked. Do not move!
-> instantly convo one of the pirate ships you have visual or in local.
-> you have 60 seconds to tell one of the pirate ships that you want to pay a toll. after 60 seconds you uncloak. Make the pirates know quick that you want to surrender.
-> if you are already in convo with 1 of the pirates then tell him quick that you will stay and not move!
-> if you move without having payed or even convoed you will be shot at.
-> you risk beeing podded aswell if you ignore these red flashing ships. They are red flashing because they kill people. The only way to make them not kill you is to attack and destroy them or pay.
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Lagar
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Posted - 2005.08.29 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lagar on 29/08/2005 16:38:29
I think it's rare to se pirates who want's randsome and afterwards actualy alow them to live afterwards 
further more... dont try to randsom a person ALONE.. that is just asking for a WORLD of truble..
Randsom should be REALY time limited... if he says he have to get isk... he's clearly geting help....
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire
-> you have 60 seconds to tell one of the pirate ships that you want to pay a toll. after 60 seconds you uncloak. Make the pirates know quick that you want to surrender.
60 seconds - is it really that long? 
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
60 seconds - is it really that long?
Yeah, the exciment of a hauler Happy Meal gets me so excited it seems like it doesn't take long when they wait it out.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:42:00 -
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Heh - always thought it was 20-30 secs, but wasn't sure 
Ohh the lag of jumping eats the first 30 secs 
EVE System Security - Killboard (still early alpha) |
Kresh Vladir
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 29/08/2005 20:22:26
Originally by: Temi
i ransomed a pirate once :P
so did i and i got ganked by a rax and a hac
my poor nosing omen died
but my mate kill'd teh pirate... then died
so i learned dont ransom in local while in a 1v1 in their hq system where they have known pirates around
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byt ransoming for me has been very sucsessful
asked for 2m once for a pod got 42m
a 15m once
and lots of 1-5mils on pods/cruisers
i say ive earned ~90-100m off ransoms
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.29 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kresh Vladir
Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 29/08/2005 20:22:26
Originally by: Temi
i ransomed a pirate once :P
so did i and i got ganked by a rax and a hac
my poor nosing omen died
but my mate kill'd teh pirate... then died
so i learned dont ransom in local while in a 1v1 in their hq system where they have known pirates around
If that's the incident I think it is, maybe you should learn not to accept a 1v1, then go refit specifically to beat the opposition's ship and dual tank his damage type and not expect said opposition to take that as you breaking the 1v1 deal 
Originally by: James Lyrus
Complaining about PvP and Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper |
Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:19:00 -
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I ransom most pods that i have at my mercy. Usually decide how much in relation to how old they are, and therefore what implants they have.
Someone said allow max of 20 seconds? Well tbh if you're in that situation your watching that ransom convo like a hawk, if they don't say 'okay okay ill pay' in 5 seconds they're calling backup, or typing a long boring speech which is not worth listening to.
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There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Kresh Vladir
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 30/08/2005 01:19:34
Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: Kresh Vladir
Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 29/08/2005 20:22:26
Originally by: Temi
i ransomed a pirate once :P
so did i and i got ganked by a rax and a hac
my poor nosing omen died
but my mate kill'd teh pirate... then died
so i learned dont ransom in local while in a 1v1 in their hq system where they have known pirates around
If that's the incident I think it is, maybe you should learn not to accept a 1v1, then go refit specifically to beat the opposition's ship and dual tank his damage type and not expect said opposition to take that as you breaking the 1v1 deal
.... i changed my my ship then accepted 1v1 about an hr later
but not to argue its all cool
i was mad at snigg for a little but its all cool now lol
then they ganked my rax in 3 destroyers  i only killed 1 stupid noober i am forgot to release zie drones ( wouldnt of helped i could only use 4 at the time )
ps dont ransom ikvars maller for 8m i figured hed have t2 guns on it making it worth paying 8m then losing it
he had t2 small guns he made money off die'n
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kresh Vladir
.... i changed my my ship then accepted 1v1 about an hr later
You left the system while your friend was saying 'Yeah he accepts the 1v1' to me in local and then you reappeared several minutes later.
Originally by: Kresh Vladir
ps dont ransom ikvars maller for 8m i figured hed have t2 guns on it making it worth paying 8m then losing it
he had t2 small guns he made money off die'n
That was the other thing that secured your ganking. If you hadn't have started going 'OMGZ00R 8M OR YUO DIE!!!11111111' in local whilst we were having the 1v1, I probably would have brushed the whole refit aside if not for that. And not that you would have got my loot anyway, due to the fact you were in pods, but the only expensive thing on that Maller was a 1600 rolled tungsten which survived.
Originally by: James Lyrus
Complaining about PvP and Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper |
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