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Commissar Veldt
Progressive State State Section 9
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:36:00 -
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Slave Endashi wrote:destruction of Titan over Caldari Prime
To be honest I think we all knew the outcome of that one (not due to CCP bias or anything but because it probably would have taken most of us Caldari FW pilots so long to get down to Luminaire at such late notice AND we all knew the fastest autopilot route from Ich/Onna would be camped to b*llocks... also not that many players interested in RP events/storylines anymore).
Regardless of the outcome, or how it was planned, or whether any bias was involved etc... I am just glad to see major storyline based events happening within the community again. It has rekindled my love for the RP side of EVE again and I will definately be making more effort to get involved from now on.
So next time any of you FDU pilots come-a-plexin in Black Rise I dont want any OOC nonsense in local! 
Serious note though, shame to see you leave and cancel your accounts. Been a good FC to CalMil for a long time now and always brought good fights. |

Commissar Veldt
Progressive State State Section 9
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:44:00 -
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Shahai Shintaro wrote:What does ccp fozzie have to do with this except not giving my drake omni damage bonuses?
Hohoho
Shahai Shintaro wrote:Third, cause I'm shocked no one else has said it yet, can I have all your stuff?
and more Hohohohohohoh (surprised at that one myself also) |

Akai Kvaesir
In Exile.
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:45:00 -
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The Tinfoil is strong here. But, as an Amarr RP'er, I do feel the slight bias, storyline-wise. I'm getting a little sick of seeing my peoples being whitewashed as the archetypal villians (alongside the Caldari), and while EA and T1 did a lot to nuance the stereotype (Jamyl is awesome), it is becoming quite apparent that the Gallente and Minmatar are fast becoming the "good guys."
EVE is a muddy, dark and gritty universe, where the distinction between good and evil is a lie. It shouldn't be so archetypal, and I sincerely hope CCP is only beginning the overtures of change, that the wave of good guy propaganda is merely a fluke and not the hallmark of a future trend. Frogblast the Vent Core! When the W'rkncacnter came, Pthia was killed, and Yrro in anger, flung the W'rkncacnter into the sun. The sun burned them, but they swam on its surface. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:48:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:But seriously - Corax or Griffin will get the next nerf after hookbill. I can see it in the stars.  Unfortunately CCP chatgris loves flying both.  |

Commissar Veldt
Progressive State State Section 9
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:57:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:But seriously - Corax or Griffin will get the next nerf after hookbill. I can see it in the stars.  Unfortunately CCP chatgris loves flying both. 
To be fair, the hookbill isnt really going to be nerfed that much, I was dreading them changing slot layout and losing a mid (like when they killed the cormorant and took its mid slot away ) A little extra mass isnt a massive issue when you have something scrammed and dual webbed, just fit T2 AB and fit a couple +5% implants for extra speedyspeedy.
I get about 1400m/s+ out of my current hooky and implant setup so cant see it being that much of an issue. |

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:00:00 -
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greg01 wrote:Yet again CCP have shown a distinct lack of professionalism in dealing with so-called "conflict of interests" within their own game. To have developers mainipulate the game in order to have one faction gain an advantage over another is just not the way forward. No other mature, proffesional organisation would allow this to occur. If it did, it would be known as a corrupt organisation.
CCP.....sort yourselves out! Grow up!
So, whining about the Luminaire titan loss, I presume. You are of course aware that Gallente players had no ability to stop it from arriving in the first place? Is it okay for one side to be able to do things without player intervention, but not the other?
CCP's live events team do a fantastic job. |

Commissar Veldt
Progressive State State Section 9
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:14:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:CCP's live events team do a fantastic job.
I agree.
Even if they rigged all events so caldari get buggered up the tradesmans entrance at every available opportunity, i'd probably love it more. Everyone loves the underdog 
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
287
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:37:00 -
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Commissar Veldt wrote:X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:But seriously - Corax or Griffin will get the next nerf after hookbill. I can see it in the stars.  Unfortunately CCP chatgris loves flying both.  To be fair, the hookbill isnt really going to be nerfed that much, I was dreading them changing slot layout and losing a mid (like when they killed the cormorant and took its mid slot away  ) A little extra mass isnt a massive issue when you have something scrammed and dual webbed, just fit T2 AB and fit a couple +5% implants for extra speedyspeedy. I get about 1400m/s+ out of my current hooky and implant setup so cant see it being that much of an issue.
Most don't use scram/dual web hookys anymore.
If CCP were not full of crap and this was really a balance issue - they would be nerfing the incursis(removing a low slot) at the same time. But they are not. Everytime we get a decent ship fit happening - it's nerfed to stop the fit being viable.
Oh yeah - I'll add cormorant to the nerf list in the post above. Ty for reminding me.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Grendel Sickswitch
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:42:00 -
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Slave Endashi wrote:
I am in this game for quite long and I love it, but to be bullied by the developers is really too much. I have experience with comunism in my home country and I am happy it is over, dont need same **** happening to me in the EVE comunity.
what a disgraceful comment. what do you think people that have suffered under communism in your country would think of you throwing around the term on a space fighting internet game? |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
156
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:59:00 -
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sooooooooo ccp fozzie a historically known PL player is siding with gallente and minmater ahahahahaha get real, the titan had nothing to do with fozzie it was ccp falcon.... cant u tell these guys are all in the same alliance as the other finnish caldari nutjob we all know.............
And snake bye bye............... now can u take damarr with you please please please......................... GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:15:00 -
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The tears are strong in this thread. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
287
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:15:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:greg01 wrote:Yet again CCP have shown a distinct lack of professionalism in dealing with so-called "conflict of interests" within their own game. To have developers mainipulate the game in order to have one faction gain an advantage over another is just not the way forward. No other mature, proffesional organisation would allow this to occur. If it did, it would be known as a corrupt organisation.
CCP.....sort yourselves out! Grow up!
So, whining about the Luminaire titan loss, I presume. You are of course aware that Gallente players had no ability to stop it from arriving in the first place? Is it okay for one side to be able to do things without player intervention, but not the other? CCP's live events team do a fantastic job.
It was a 1/2 assed job at best.
If there were 2 possible results depending on who won the most battles - then many opinions would be different. Having a predetermined outcome in a sandbox game is not good or doing a 'fantastic job'. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
156
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:51:00 -
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i agree the story was half assed the system shouldnt have been capped how it was either. The titan and other caps should have been wartargets to each other and stargates set to only allow military personel in (militia) and let the factions fight it out with the actors imo. Also the sec of system should have dropped when concord switched off allowing us to jump caps in to make it a nice royal rumble and a good spectacle for all including the dust payers who could watch what eves really about GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
434
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:52:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:But seriously - Corax or Griffin will get the next nerf after hookbill. I can see it in the stars.  Unfortunately CCP chatgris loves flying both. 
OK, now that's insulting.
Sure, the Corax is decent, but a Griffin? Nothing says "I don't want to fight" like a griffin. I only think I've been in a griffin one or two times in my entire eve career, ECM is such a broken mechanic.
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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
482
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:53:00 -
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Good lord. Some of these caldari pilots are dumber than dumb. Just another lolz thread to add to the Comedy Militia. High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |

Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:59:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:The Tinfoil is strong here. But, as an Amarr RP'er, I do feel the slight bias, storyline-wise. I'm getting a little sick of seeing my peoples being whitewashed as the archetypal villians (alongside the Caldari), and while EA and T1 did a lot to nuance the stereotype (Jamyl is awesome), it is becoming quite apparent that the Gallente and Minmatar are fast becoming the "good guys."
EVE is a muddy, dark and gritty universe, where the distinction between good and evil is a lie. It shouldn't be so archetypal, and I sincerely hope CCP is only beginning the overtures of change, that the wave of good guy propaganda is merely a fluke and not the hallmark of a future trend.
You probably missed a few live events. Like the one concerning a bunch of wannabe terrorist / transparency international types who sleep-gased a FIO station in Cat in search of illegal weapons development. Later, lot of their Gallente capsuleer helpers were shot to smithereens by a force of FIO Navy Megathrons and the "evidence" disappeared again.
I was there, although I left the fleet after the gasing refusing to help "terrorists" and shoot at my friends in FIO.
On the other hand, there are some good guys on the other side, at least Caldari.
Amarr? OK, not so much. But it's hard to look for silver lining in a bunch of religious fanatics who enslave whole races and casually commit genocide.
But if you are a real roleplayer, there should be no problem adapting the role whatever the archetype of your race is. After all, sometimes it's awesome to see hard-ass Amarr religious fanatic whipping his slaves in the name of God, when there are so many "special people" who are atheist Amarr, reformed Caldari, Gallente bigots and Minmatar gentlemen. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
287
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:07:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Few things bother me lately. . . I used to think you were a squid who's ink I would actually find worth reading. But now, so sad 
If you look at a majority of my forum posts, you will see that I do not complain very often. TBH - I'm one of the most chilled out people that play this game - however the Hookbill nerf is really out of place and CCP are really giving a lot of traction to some peoples claims of bias.
I have avoided the entire argument for a long time but I can guarantee if you had as much of the gear/ships you trained specifically for nerfed in the last year as I have - you might be getting a bit sick off it and complain occasionally too.
I pay my subscription fees just like everyone else and can have the odd whinge if i feel like it.

Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Ice Brewer
Brave Newbies Inc.
7
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:09:00 -
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The only point in this thread which has any merit is that the Titan event was scripted - Which is was.
The problem with the Titan event being scripted? That they marketed it as a "You get to shape events" live event, when it clearly wasn't.
Thats a valid criticism which should be directly address to CCP and have an official response on - Anything else is just speculation. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
540
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:23:00 -
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It was just a publicity stunt. It also had to end with a crashed titan on the caldari prime map. This is to project some greater context into the dust world with a spectacle of a burning ship in the sky-box.
I dont endorse it, i see dust as a failure off the bat. From the shoe-horned arbitrary and inconsistent consequences in FW space to the concept simply being broken and dusts potential further compromised by the constant and rapid cycling of newer and greater fps on the consoles (well as far as console kiddies are concerned, personally i cant play fps with a pad).
Good luck to CCP, cant say ill ever play an FPS on a console. I just hope they havent got too much riding on dust since its rapid and complete failure seems inevitable to me. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
287
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:32:00 -
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chatgris wrote:X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:But seriously - Corax or Griffin will get the next nerf after hookbill. I can see it in the stars.  Unfortunately CCP chatgris loves flying both.  OK, now that's insulting. Sure, the Corax is decent, but a Griffin? Nothing says "I don't want to fight" like a griffin. I only think I've been in a griffin one or two times in my entire eve career, ECM is such a broken mechanic.
You should leave those dirty, insulting Gallente scum and join Caldari. 
Are the kitey damping ships Gallente use saying 'I wanna fight?'
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
287
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:35:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:It was just a publicity stunt. It also had to end with a crashed titan on the caldari prime map. This is to project some greater context into the dust world with a spectacle of a burning ship in the sky-box.
I dont endorse it, i see dust as a failure off the bat. From the shoe-horned arbitrary and inconsistent consequences in FW space to the concept simply being broken and dusts potential further compromised by the constant and rapid cycling of newer and greater fps on the consoles (well as far as console kiddies are concerned, personally i cant play fps with a pad).
Good luck to CCP, cant say ill ever play an FPS on a console. I just hope they havent got too much riding on dust since its rapid and complete failure seems inevitable to me.
Dust is not bad with Key/Mouse. Ditch the noobtroller and give it another go and you might be surprised. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
541
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:53:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:It was just a publicity stunt. It also had to end with a crashed titan on the caldari prime map. This is to project some greater context into the dust world with a spectacle of a burning ship in the sky-box.
I dont endorse it, i see dust as a failure off the bat. From the shoe-horned arbitrary and inconsistent consequences in FW space to the concept simply being broken and dusts potential further compromised by the constant and rapid cycling of newer and greater fps on the consoles (well as far as console kiddies are concerned, personally i cant play fps with a pad).
Good luck to CCP, cant say ill ever play an FPS on a console. I just hope they havent got too much riding on dust since its rapid and complete failure seems inevitable to me. Dust is not bad with Key/Mouse. Ditch the noobtroller and give it another go and you might be surprised.
Theres only one game i will be buying a console for, and it starts with Grand Theft Auto, ends in whatever.
As far as dust is concerned, i play Planetside 2. From what ive seen, dust doesnt have a patch on PS2's epicness or intensity. Its almost an insult to PS2 to compare the 2. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
434
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:55:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:chatgris wrote:X Gallentius wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:But seriously - Corax or Griffin will get the next nerf after hookbill. I can see it in the stars.  Unfortunately CCP chatgris loves flying both.  OK, now that's insulting. Sure, the Corax is decent, but a Griffin? Nothing says "I don't want to fight" like a griffin. I only think I've been in a griffin one or two times in my entire eve career, ECM is such a broken mechanic. You should leave those dirty, insulting Gallente scum and join Caldari. 
I've considered it a few times when things were really slow, but the Caldari militia is just so full of constant drama. Plus, I'm a closet individual freedoms and liberty RPer :(
However, if they ever lock a faction into flying its own ships, I'll be the hell out of Gal mil for sure!
IbanezLaney wrote:
Are the kitey damping ships Gallente use saying 'I wanna fight?'
More so than ECM, at least if you catch up to one you can scram it, lock it and shoot it. (Note: I don't fly these either). Or, if you already have something scrammed and webbed you can keep shooting it while damped. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.03.26 03:02:00 -
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