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Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2351	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:26:00 - [1] - Quote I just noticed some PAX pirate rookie ships on the market @ Jita 4-4 (pretty cool btw!) and it got me wondering about the Quafe Catalyst... still not in any player hands! What's the holdup, CCP? Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 2889	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:28:00 - [2] - Quote Quafe Catalyst? yuck. Intaki Catalyst..... blue sexyness. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 1164	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:33:00 - [3] - Quote They have difficulties coding the Quafe Blaster that uses Quafe and its variants as ammunition. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 3827	Posted - 2013.03.25 21:13:00 - [4] - Quote Carbonation Cannon. (Pop pop, fizz fizz) To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 313	Posted - 2013.03.25 22:46:00 - [5] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Carbonation Cannon. (Pop pop, fizz fizz) Oh, what a relief it is. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons.
Grigori Annunaki 12	Posted - 2013.03.25 22:51:00 - [6] - Quote I would happily murder all of you for a purple jewel-toned Catalyst.

CCP Nadir C C P C C P Alliance 82	Posted - 2013.04.11 15:54:00 - [7] - Quote Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program. The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following, Quafe Catalyst Intaki Catalyst Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst Aliastra Catalyst Interbus Catalyst Catalyst

Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 2248	Posted - 2013.04.11 16:14:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Nadir wrote: Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program. The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following, Quafe Catalyst Intaki Catalyst Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst Aliastra Catalyst Interbus Catalyst Catalyst Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship? Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny? The Drake is a Lie
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3139	Posted - 2013.04.11 16:16:00 - [9] - Quote Xercodo wrote: Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship? Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny? Yes.
Budrick3 Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.04.11 16:32:00 - [10] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Xercodo wrote: Can we get a response as to why you bastards keep making entirely new ships out of these skins instead of letting us have a system that allows for the customization of an existing ship? Is is simply a technical issue regarding database entries or something (similar in complexity to the old request for separate BPC icons) or UI devs to change the fitting screen? Or are you just holding it back until V3 is done and doing them as separate ships now to simply give people a perception of shiny? Yes. x3
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 354	Posted - 2013.04.11 16:40:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Nadir wrote: Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program. The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following, Quafe Catalyst Intaki Catalyst Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst Aliastra Catalyst Interbus Catalyst Catalyst STOP WASTING SHIP SKINS WITH PROMOTIONAL SHIPS AND GIFTS! Make them usable items or LP exchanges in the game and either earn some money (via Nexus store) or create a new ISK sink (via LP) /me walks off grumbling about wasted opertunities Lieutenant Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
iskflakes 389	Posted - 2013.04.11 17:54:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Nadir wrote: Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program. The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following, Quafe Catalyst Intaki Catalyst Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst Aliastra Catalyst Interbus Catalyst Catalyst I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim? -
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3142	Posted - 2013.04.11 17:59:00 - [13] - Quote iskflakes wrote: I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim? Try explaining why that would help everybody, in a detailed manner please ... (btw, i'm serious :p)
Nova Satar Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 110	Posted - 2013.04.11 18:03:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Nadir wrote: Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program. The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following, Quafe Catalyst Intaki Catalyst Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst Aliastra Catalyst Interbus Catalyst Catalyst stop ruining "limited edition" ships for pathetic promos that nobody gives a **** about. have your buddy program and be done with it, stop intruding into the game just to squeeze more money out of us
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3142	Posted - 2013.04.11 18:09:00 - [15] - Quote What's really wondering me is ... ... where does it say they aren't limited anymore, even if they give out more ? Companies usually produce a specific number of limited edition items for a specific timeframe ... ... and if they don't run out of stock and sell them again at a later date ... ... it doesn't actually change the fact that they are limited edition items. No ? I mean ... i guess a lot of people buy these ships with the buddy program ... ... but that doesn't mean it's THOUSANDS of people ... or ?
iskflakes 394	Posted - 2013.04.11 18:56:00 - [16] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: iskflakes wrote: I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim? Try explaining why that would help everybody, in a detailed manner please ... (btw, i'm serious :p) You're asking why giving people accurate information with which to make their ingame choices would help? To be explicit (in language even CCP can understand): A new player might see a market section for "special edition" items and believe, as many of us did, that this means the items will not be re-released. This new player might then purchase a ship, only to find it re-released a week later as part of some failed tournament HD stream promotion promotion. This new player would then have lost a lot of ISK, and would quit the game. The new player would then mention to his/her friends that EVE is not a fun game to play. When it comes to making ingame decisions new players should have the same information available to them as veteran players do. Veteran players know that "special edition" means the ship is neither "special" OR "limited edition", but this is never made clear to new players. This is why we need clarity over what is limited edition and what isn't. -
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2383	Posted - 2013.04.11 18:57:00 - [17] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: What's really wondering me is ... ... where does it say they aren't limited anymore, even if they give out more ? Companies usually produce a specific number of limited edition items for a specific timeframe ... ... and if they don't run out of stock and sell them again at a later date ... ... it doesn't actually change the fact that they are limited edition items. No ? I mean ... i guess a lot of people buy these ships with the buddy program ... ... but that doesn't mean it's THOUSANDS of people ... or ? They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. +PGêç+P \|-áGèò \| -ë-û-ë
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3142	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:02:00 - [18] - Quote iskflakes wrote: You're asking why giving people accurate information with which to make their ingame choices would help? To be explicit (in language even CCP can understand): A new player might see a market section for "special edition" items and believe, as many of us did, that this means the items will not be re-released. This new player might then purchase a ship, only to find it re-released a week later as part of some failed tournament HD stream promotion promotion. This new player would then have lost a lot of ISK, and would quit the game. The new player would then mention to his/her friends that EVE is not a fun game to play. When it comes to making ingame decisions new players should have the same information available to them as veteran players do. Veteran players know that "special edition" means the ship is neither "special" OR "limited edition", but this is never made clear to new players. This is why we need clarity over what is limited edition and what isn't. The new-player-argument. I'm sure you're serious here, but that "argument" doesn't help your cause at all ...
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 13575	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:03:00 - [19] - Quote iskflakes wrote: Veteran players know that "special edition" means the ship is neither "special" OR "limited edition", but this is never made clear to new players. Eh no. We know that it means the ship is GÇ£special editionGÇ¥ GÇö i.e. not a mass-production item. Even then, I'm trying to remember how many GÇ£special editionGÇ¥ DVDs and BRs I have in my bookshelf, and how many others have the sameGÇª Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3142	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:03:00 - [20] - Quote Gogela wrote: They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. DAMN I've ALWAYS wanted to have a Guardian Vexor ! :D
War Kitten Panda McLegion 1865	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:14:00 - [21] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: iskflakes wrote: I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim? Try explaining why that would help everybody, in a detailed manner please ... (btw, i'm serious :p) Um... uh... because you see... uh.... he would then have knowledge of the impending rarity decline, but .... uhm... uh... nobody else would? Yeah, then he could sell his collection off before it was devalued to some other poor collector before the knowledge went ... um... public.... Yeah, giving advance warning of a re-release would certainly help out. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 3934	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:15:00 - [22] - Quote People tend to confuse Special Edition (Different in some way from the standard version) with Limited Edition (Only a limited number will be made available). These things are not necessarily the same thing. Unfortunately CCP uses the same term to describe both groups, which further adds to the confusion. These new skins SHOULD eventually become available to everyone, and should never be tacked onto something that will not be commonly available eventually. Otherwise CCP is shooting themselves in the foot should they get to the point where all ships are available with a variety of skins. CCP, please clean up your terminology and stop putting new skins on hulls that we commonly use and then restricting the number of them availble. If you want to make true Limited Edition items, reserve it to visually different hulls (such as the Alliance Tournament ships) or other items such as Quafe T-shirts or other items along that line. You don't need to go thru the drama of eventually releasing a commonly available version of that ship/skin and being accused of destroying the collectors value. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2383	Posted - 2013.04.11 20:30:00 - [23] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Gogela wrote: They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. DAMN I've ALWAYS wanted to have a Guardian Vexor ! :D Me too. Then I got one. Now I've ALWAYS wanted a Silver Magnate. It's a slippery slope... covered in ISK and pod fluid.... +PGêç+P \|-áGèò \| -ë-û-ë
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3158	Posted - 2013.04.11 20:37:00 - [24] - Quote War Kitten wrote: Um... uh... because you see... uh.... he would then have knowledge of the impending rarity decline, but .... uhm... uh... nobody else would? Yeah, then he could sell his collection off before it was devalued to some other poor collector before the knowledge went ... um... public.... Yeah, giving advance warning of a re-release would certainly help out. You know ... ... that was what i was expecting, actually ... ... but instead he came up with the new-player-argument .........................................
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3158	Posted - 2013.04.11 20:39:00 - [25] - Quote Gogela wrote: Me too. Then I got one. Now I've ALWAYS wanted a Silver Magnate. It's a slippery slope... covered in ISK and pod fluid.... Well ... my reason is just that i want to be the badass using 10 ... TEN ... drones ! :D
Sabriz Adoudel Resurgent Threat 200	Posted - 2013.04.11 23:32:00 - [26] - Quote I could never own a blinged Catalyst. I'd be too tempted to use it to suicide gank a blinged exhumer. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315
nomad Raholan 1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans 10	Posted - 2013.04.12 03:57:00 - [27] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Gogela wrote: They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. DAMN I've ALWAYS wanted to have a Guardian Vexor ! :D You basically just answered your own original question.. You can have a guardian vexor, all you need to do is find someone who owns one and purchase it from him. As it is now, the guardian vexor is a VERY rare ship and will cost you a lot of isk. So the owner/collector will either sell it to you at a premium price or not. If they re-release the guardian vexor into the game, the collector suddenly has what was once a valuable collectors item, (due to its popularity and being unavailable) now available in greater numbers which in turn reduces the value of his investment. Good for those seeking a rare ship, not good for those who now own them as an investment. .,.,.,Disagree with me if you feel the need.,.,., .,.,.,Right or Wrong.,.,.,.-á .,.,.,My opinion is free and mine to own.,.,.,.
nomad Raholan 1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans 10	Posted - 2013.04.12 04:01:00 - [28] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Gogela wrote: Me too. Then I got one. Now I've ALWAYS wanted a Silver Magnate. It's a slippery slope... covered in ISK and pod fluid.... Well ... my reason is just that i want to be the badass using 10 ... TEN ... drones ! :D Fly a carrier .,.,.,Disagree with me if you feel the need.,.,., .,.,.,Right or Wrong.,.,.,.-á .,.,.,My opinion is free and mine to own.,.,.,.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 298	Posted - 2013.04.12 05:42:00 - [29] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: People tend to confuse Special Edition (Different in some way from the standard version) with Limited Edition (Only a limited number will be made available). This is a great solution. I too am not a fan of the current system, where certain rare ships can instantly lose their value with a new CCP promo, while others remain unique. CCP should definitely use two different terms, as you said: Special Edition (may be released again at a later date, or may not) Limited Edition (no more will ever be made, like the AT ships)
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1117	Posted - 2013.04.12 06:13:00 - [30] - Quote I have a Toyota Camry LE.....and so do about 20million other people. It also happens to be a SE LE......oddly, it's not anymore valuable or rare. You guys really should take marketing 101. Everything on this planet are limited editions and so are they special editions. Here, I've got a special and limited edition rock....wanna buy it? HTFU!...for the children!

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