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ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 09:01:00 - [1] Edited by: ChefAce on 01/09/2005 09:05:24 This is a pretty niffty little mod. CORE X-TYPE LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER Stats Attributes Activation cost: 400 Energy Armor HP Repaired: 1,120 Activation time/duration: 15.00 sec Fitting CPU Usage: 46 tf Powergrid Usage: 2,800 MW Starting bid: 500mil Minimum bid increments: 20mil Buyout: None Reserve: None Sniper rule: None This auction will end on Friday @ 21:00 Eve time Bidding is final at that time and the item will be escrowed to the winner. Item is to be escrowed in secured space at a location of my choosing. Happy bidding If you think my starting bid is too high then that's YOUR* opinion and it does not need to be posted here. Only serious bidders please.* I reserve the right to not sell this item if bids are not to my expectations
Tas Devil	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:02:00 - [2] Originally by: ChefAce Starting bid: 500mil Minimum bid increments: 20mil Buyout: None Reserve: None Sniper rule: None I reserve the right to not sell this item if bids are not to my expectations[/quote] Now isn't that simply a Hidden reserve ? if you want people to bid on this a hidden reserve is going to put a lot of people off as on such mods its hard to get a sense of what you want for it... Save us all time if you have a minimum you won't sell under just let us know and then we'll consider bidding
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:25:00 - [3] Originally by: Tas Devil Now isn't that simply a Hidden reserve ? if you want people to bid on this a hidden reserve is going to put a lot of people off as on such mods its hard to get a sense of what you want for it... Save us all time if you have a minimum you won't sell under just let us know and then we'll consider bidding Well at least I know you can freaking read ffs. Damn you people make me sick! Maybe you missed this part or maybe you just can't keep your forking piehole shut. Quote: If you think my starting bid is too high then that's YOUR opinion and it does not need to be posted here. Only serious bidders please Why can't people like you just STFU and leave other peoples auctions alone? Do you feel an intense need to try and derail other peoples auctions because you lack ISK or items of your own? Or are you just one of those jackarses that just can't help yourselves? Should I have named this post "I need help with my auction" or "Please hijack this thread"? Now please STFU and leave my forking auction alone ffs!
Dragon Slave	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:39:00 - [4] Actually, Tas Devil got a very valid point
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:42:00 - [5] Edited by: Agent2 Holtze on 01/09/2005 13:42:48 why? as i read it Chef is only selling the repper if the price is over 500mill. usually people starts the bidding at 1 isk , 100 and 1 isk and so on, all he is saying that he wont sell below the min price. allthough he could have pointed it out a bit more clear. nice item btw. Cheers! ~ Quovis Per Adua ~
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:45:00 - [6] Originally by: Dragon Slave Actually, Tas Devil got a very valid point I'll entertain this for all of you mentally inept people out there. Lets say Joe Blow from Cocamo Corp bids 400mil isk and that's the only bid made. Should I just take it and run or should I hold out because I know I can get at least 500mil for it? You figure it out Einstein. Now please **** off and go wipe up your drool ffs!
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:46:00 - [7] Originally by: Agent2 Holtze why? as i read it Chef is only selling the repper if the price is over 500mill. usually people starts the bidding at 1 isk , 100 and 1 isk and so on, all he is saying that he wont sell below the min price. allthough he could have pointed it out a bit more clear. nice item btw. Finally!! There is a God and he isn't playing jokes on me! I was beginning to think that no one understood it. Thanks btw
DeathForMeh	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:51:00 - [8] Edited by: DeathForMeh on 01/09/2005 13:52:48 Don't hate Chef haters! I told him it was worth 1billon! :) Now I dont every really tank or id be biding on this as its one of the best armor reps in the freaken game and you dont think thats worth freaken a pesaly 500m for a opening bid? Then getout you cant affoired this. -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 31/08/2005 03:48:14 You should apply to stain empire for an upgrade in your fighting technique.
Tas Devil	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:54:00 - [9] Originally by: ChefAce Originally by: Tas Devil Now isn't that simply a Hidden reserve ? if you want people to bid on this a hidden reserve is going to put a lot of people off as on such mods its hard to get a sense of what you want for it... Save us all time if you have a minimum you won't sell under just let us know and then we'll consider bidding Well at least I know you can freaking read ffs. Damn you people make me sick! Maybe you missed this part or maybe you just can't keep your forking piehole shut. Quote: If you think my starting bid is too high then that's YOUR opinion and it does not need to be posted here. Only serious bidders please Why can't people like you just STFU and leave other peoples auctions alone? Do you feel an intense need to try and derail other peoples auctions because you lack ISK or items of your own? Or are you just one of those jackarses that just can't help yourselves? Should I have named this post "I need help with my auction" or "Please hijack this thread"? Now please STFU and leave my forking auction alone ffs! You're a joke... I'm potentially very interested in this item ... but I just wanted to clarify whether or not a 500M bid would secure this item (if not overbid by another player - of course) or whether your comment at the bottom of your post meant that afterall a 500M bid may not satisfy you even if its your min bid ... Can you provide a straight answer to this ? This is not a comment about your minimum price... its about the disclaimer at the bottom and whether your minimum price is in effect the reserve you speak of in this disclaimer... Judging by the quality of your response I suggest you pop a CHILL PILL and try and act like a mature individual ...not an over angst under sexed 16 year old... And finally for the record I'm one of the few people in EVE with 11 digits before the dot in their isk account ... try and inform yourself before opening your own piehole...
Krunq	Posted - 2005.09.01 13:57:00 - [10] This item goes for about 750m tops, none of them fetch 1b anymore, or for a long time.
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Tas Devil Can you provide a straight answer to this ? This is not a comment about your minimum price... its about the disclaimer at the bottom and whether your minimum price is in effect the reserve you speak of in this disclaimer... And just to clarify I DID answer your question so why don't you try reading for once in your forking life! Read my third post you nitwit. Quote: Judging by the quality of your response I suggest you pop a CHILL PILL and try and act like a mature individual ...not an over angst under sexed 16 year old... And there's nothing wrong with me nor my response to someone who can't seem to grasp what an auction is all about. Although I would say that you're the one with problems although it's not something that a little Prozac and a polo mallet couldn't handle. Quote: And finally for the record I'm one of the few people in EVE with 11 digits before the dot in their isk account ... try and inform yourself before opening your own piehole... I give a flying rats arse what your wallet looks like so long as you're not bidding. Go stroke youself in someone elses auction because as of right now I wouldn't sell it to you no matter how much you bid. So take your comments & ISK and do the happy dance off of the highest bridge you can find.
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Krunq This item goes for about 750m tops, none of them fetch 1b anymore, or for a long time. Yeah, and I asked for your speculation on the matter? Why don't you join your witless friend above and take a flying leap off a rolling doughnut ffs! I take it all back! God is playing jokes on me!
Tas Devil	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:17:00 - [13] Originally by: ChefAce Originally by: Tas Devil Can you provide a straight answer to this ? This is not a comment about your minimum price... its about the disclaimer at the bottom and whether your minimum price is in effect the reserve you speak of in this disclaimer... And just to clarify I DID answer your question so why don't you try reading for once in your forking life! Read my third post you nitwit. ChefAce...there is nothing to add... as you say yourself I have to refer to your 3rd post which itself quotes someone else to understand what you mean ... I'm very sorry if providing simple clarification to your potential customers without insulting them is beyond you... Any normal auctionner would have simply clarified and explained that yes from the 500M mark upwards there was no more hidden reserve as long as the min bid was met... You chose instead to insult me and rant ... what a little insignificant person this makes you...
Quanteeri	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:23:00 - [14] Edited by: Quanteeri on 01/09/2005 14:24:22 Would you like a pickles on that? Me thinks Ace needums a nappypooh
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:28:00 - [15] Originally by: Tas Devil ChefAce...there is nothing to add... as you say yourself I have to refer to your 3rd post which itself quotes someone else to understand what you mean ... I'm very sorry if providing simple clarification to your potential customers without insulting them is beyond you... Any normal auctionner would have simply clarified and explained that yes from the 500M mark upwards there was no more hidden reserve as long as the min bid was met... You chose instead to insult me and rant ... what a little insignificant person this makes you... Its amusing that its always the same auctionner that end up having their auction hijacked with rants and non relevant comments...perhpas it has to do with the auctionnee's attitude more then anything else... Or perhaps the auctioneer gets sick and tired of the mentally retarded hijacking his threads. Maybe it's because of idgets such as yourself thinking that they know best. Or could it possibly be that people of your nature always seems to read something entirely different into other peoples posts. Either way it goes you were told to basically take a flying leap and yet you continue to try and derail someones auction for your own little bit of twisted amusement. The OP was clear and concise. It stated everything that needed to be known and yet you failed, quite miserably at that, to understand it. I have a hard time believing that you have as much ISK as you claim and yet are so ignorant to what the OP meant. Take off those Coke bottle glasses and remove the spitballs from your ears. Maybe then you'll better understand what you're trying to read next time and will be able to avoid aggrevating the auctioneer. Don't you have a bridge to find? Now shoo!!
DeathForMeh	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Krunq This item goes for about 750m tops, none of them fetch 1b anymore, or for a long time. If some one wants it bad it will go for 1b but yeah in retrospect probaly wont. Still 500m is not a bad opening bid start. I hope the mods delet all this disution :( -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 31/08/2005 03:48:14 You should apply to stain empire for an upgrade in your fighting technique.
DeathForMeh	Posted - 2005.09.01 14:43:00 - [17] Edited by: DeathForMeh on 01/09/2005 14:47:55 Originally by: Tas Devil Originally by: ChefAce Originally by: Tas Devil Now isn't that simply a Hidden reserve ? if you want people to bid on this a hidden reserve is going to put a lot of people off as on such mods its hard to get a sense of what you want for it... Save us all time if you have a minimum you won't sell under just let us know and then we'll consider bidding Well at least I know you can freaking read ffs. Damn you people make me sick! Maybe you missed this part or maybe you just can't keep your forking piehole shut. Quote: If you think my starting bid is too high then that's YOUR opinion and it does not need to be posted here. Only serious bidders please Why can't people like you just STFU and leave other peoples auctions alone? Do you feel an intense need to try and derail other peoples auctions because you lack ISK or items of your own? Or are you just one of those jackarses that just can't help yourselves? Should I have named this post "I need help with my auction" or "Please hijack this thread"? Now please STFU and leave my forking auction alone ffs! You're a joke... I'm potentially very interested in this item ... but I just wanted to clarify whether or not a 500M bid would secure this item (if not overbid by another player - of course) or whether your comment at the bottom of your post meant that afterall a 500M bid may not satisfy you even if its your min bid ... Can you provide a straight answer to this ? This is not a comment about your minimum price... its about the disclaimer at the bottom and whether your minimum price is in effect the reserve you speak of in this disclaimer... Judging by the quality of your response I suggest you pop a CHILL PILL and try and act like a mature individual ...not an over angst under sexed 16 year old... And finally for the record I'm one of the few people in EVE with 11 digits before the dot in their isk account ... try and inform yourself before opening your own piehole... I hope he just refuses to sell it to you for any amount so you will stfu and gtfo. -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 31/08/2005 03:48:14 You should apply to stain empire for an upgrade in your fighting technique.
Tas Devil	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:28:00 - [18] Edited by: Tas Devil on 01/09/2005 15:29:56 I stand by my comments... you can carry on further insulting me... it doesn't change that I asked for a simple clarification of your disclaimer... and you failed to provide that ... I never commented about the level of your opening bid minimum or ranted about the price asked etc... because I was interested to bid... I simply wanted to understand whether you would honour such a 500M bid if not outbid by another player ... Whatever you may claim your opening auction rules are not clear on the matter of a reserve beyond 500M...
DeathForMeh	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Tas Devil I stand by my comments... you can carry on further insulting me... it doesn't change that I asked for a simple clarification of your disclaimer... and you failed to provide that ... I never commented about the level of your opening bid minimumetc... because I was interested to bid... I simply wanted to understand whether you would honour such a 500M bid if not outbid by another player ... Whatever you may claim your opening auction rules are not clear on the matter of a reserve beyond 500M... It was pritty simple Instead of hiding behind the omg hidden resever he came out and said he was not sure on the price he wanted but if he didnt feel it was high enough by the end of the auction he wouldnt sell it. I.E. if it only got up to 550m or something You just went on about how much isk you have and how awsome you are. -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 31/08/2005 03:48:14 You should apply to stain empire for an upgrade in your fighting technique.
Khazad Dun	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:34:00 - [20] ChefAce, you are a bad mouthed idiot. The guy asked a simple question and you went off on one. great marketing you *****. Do you actually know what a reserve is in terms of an auction? Now, I was looking at this item thinking I might have a go at bidding, but as you are an angry person (as clearly displayed in your arrogant dismissal of the other persons response)I am not going to bother. oh what the heck 100 million
Tas Devil	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:36:00 - [21] Originally by: DeathForMeh Originally by: Tas Devil I stand by my comments... you can carry on further insulting me... it doesn't change that I asked for a simple clarification of your disclaimer... and you failed to provide that ... I never commented about the level of your opening bid minimumetc... because I was interested to bid... I simply wanted to understand whether you would honour such a 500M bid if not outbid by another player ... Whatever you may claim your opening auction rules are not clear on the matter of a reserve beyond 500M... It was pritty simple Instead of hiding behind the omg hidden resever he came out and said he was not sure on the price he wanted but if he didnt feel it was high enough by the end of the auction he wouldnt sell it. I.E. if it only got up to 550m or something You just went on about how much isk you have and how awsome you are. Excuse me ? he wasn't obvious...if 500M is not something he would sell for then there is a reserve on this auction and hence his auction rules are misleading ... and I only mentioned the size of my wallet after being told to F.O. for not having the isk...which is quite a stupid comment ... and for the record Mr. 'I'm just commenting on someone else's auction ...the part in BOLD in your supposed explanation is exactly what a hidden reserve is...
Prins Darkness	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:38:00 - [22] 105 mil
Tas Devil	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:40:00 - [23] I am not going to reply to anymore silly insults and attacks on this auction thread... there will be plenty other such mods to buy in the near future from auctioneers with manners and a lot less temper... Nonetheless I'd like to point out that I was not trying to comment on the amount he was asking for... that's his call and I respected that ...I seeked clarification on his reserve disclaimer at the end... Have fun continuing to disucss this eternally...
DeathForMeh	Posted - 2005.09.01 15:59:00 - [24] Edited by: DeathForMeh on 01/09/2005 16:00:43 Originally by: Tas Devil I am not going to reply to anymore silly insults and attacks on this auction thread... there will be plenty other such mods to buy in the near future from auctioneers with manners and a lot less temper... Nonetheless I'd like to point out that I was not trying to comment on the amount he was asking for... that's his call and I respected that ...I seeked clarification on his reserve disclaimer at the end... Have fun continuing to disucss this eternally... Your right I was way to over zelost and didnt read well being the moring. Sorry Edit for bid : 150m! ;) -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 31/08/2005 03:48:14 You should apply to stain empire for an upgrade in your fighting technique.
MickeyFinn	Posted - 2005.09.01 16:36:00 - [25] Chef you were worried about people de-railing your sales thread and not getting serious offers, but all you have done is encourage it by the poor quality of your first response. I rekon you will get 500mill easy but ppl wont remember it for the good deal, all they will remember is that you acted like a tw@t when being asked a perfectly legit question. All you have done is given ppl every reason not to ask reasonable questions about your auctions which will in turn mean you get less interest in future. Anyways, just my personal opinion - good luck with you auction. Shame you have to be so offensive with it Finn -------------------------------------- The Artist Formely Known As Wishdokkta
KadaEl	Posted - 2005.09.01 19:19:00 - [26] There's a difference between asking a question and being remarkably arrogant, so don't give chefy a hard time. Anyways, if I had the cash I'd indulge in this 'nifty' mod. so here's my unqualified bid of 300mil to make this post slightly more valid, and not just a shameless bump for cool guy =) ------------------------------------------- KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 23:50:00 - [27] I ask that the mods please delete everything after the OP. My rules were clear for anyone who bothered to actually read the op. There didn't need to be any clairification as it was clear and concise. It's just a shame that people who knew what I meant had to jump on that guys bandwagon just for the sake of being.....well you know. Mods please delete everything after the OP so this auction may continue without further delay. To those of you that don't get it, I'll give you another example as to what the disclaimer meant. Lets say Joe Blow from Cocamo Corp bids 400mil isk and that's the only bid made. Should I just take it and run or should I hold out because I know I can get at least 500mil for it? Is that clairification enough for you?
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.01 23:56:00 - [28] And yes, it does anger/aggrevate me when I'm ask such trivial and unwarrented questions such as those asked by Tas Devil. Starting bid: 500mil <---Means I won't accept bids lower than this Minimum bid increments: 20mil <--- Means no bids lower after the initial bid Buyout: None <---Means there is no buyout Reserve: None <---Means there is no reserve after the minimum Sniper rule: None<---Means there is no sniper rule and thus the final bid would win
Major Sails	Posted - 2005.09.02 00:40:00 - [29] With all due respect... but it was never the initial price wich was the dispute. It was the fact that you put Originally by: ChefAce Reserve: None <---Means there is no reserve after the minimum And then proceeded to add Originally by: ChefAce I reserve the right to not sell this item if bids are not to my expectations Now, I'm no rocket scientist, but that smells like a hidden reserve to me mate Anyways, good luck with your auction.
ChefAce	Posted - 2005.09.02 01:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Major Sails With all due respect... but it was never the initial price wich was the dispute. It was the fact that you put Originally by: ChefAce Reserve: None <---Means there is no reserve after the minimum And then proceeded to add Originally by: ChefAce I reserve the right to not sell this item if bids are not to my expectations Now, I'm no rocket scientist, but that smells like a hidden reserve to me mate Anyways, good luck with your auction. One more time ffs. My expectation is obviouslu 500mil Anything below my expectation and the item will not sell.

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