Isn't what they think about the game, balance and being able to keep to the NDA, the applicable part here?

3.5.2.
Political participation: freedom of expression, assembly and association, and free elections
one of the main goals of the Council of Europe is the promotion of democracy.
This is reflected in many of the rights in the ECHR which facilitate the promotion
of political participation. While EU law confers a limited range of rights in this
respect (in particular the right for EU nationals to vote in municipal elections and
European parliament elections), the ECHR contains broader guarantees creating not
only a right to vote and stand in elections, but also flanking rights of freedom of
expression and the right to freedom of assembly and association.

Example: in the case of B-àczkowski and Others v. Poland, discussed above, the
refusal of permission to hold a march to raise awareness about sexual orientation discrimination, coupled with publicly made homophobic remarks of the mayor, amounted to a violation of the right to freedom of assembly (Article 11)
together with Article 14.

The right to freedom of association has also been taken to include protection
for the formation of political parties, which the ECtHR has accorded a high level
of protection against interference.

Yes that is applicable, but if someone actually adheres to an ideology that espouses the extermination or enslavement of large swathes of humanity, surely that would affect their ability to work with other people (one of the Goon candidates is Jewish, for example. see: "The Jewbal").

What a ridiculous question, since there's no way any company interested in engaging in international business would be stupid enough to openly associate themselves with an avowed racist. Why, they'd have to be downright incompetent if they maintained such a relationship and hoped to keep up a good public image!

I highly doubt CCP would be idiotic enough to even tacitly support such a person, since there's no way they're moronic enough to permit a CSM member with such views to publicly represent them. What an unusual and unprompted question.

So preventing someone from standing on the basis of their political beliefs would frankly just get CCP sued with a high probability of losing.

If that is true about EU & political beliefs how come you can still get thrown in jail in Germany for giving the old Hitlergru+ƒ salute?

EDIT: how come in the OP Neo-**** is not censored & in mine it is?

Oh wait...Thomas Hurt thread.. Nevermind.

It boggles the mind that someone can post a thread about an avowed Neo-Nazi running for the CSM, and the only reaction is " Weak troll thread is weak 0/10"

It boggles the mind that someone can post a thread about an avowed Neo-Nazi running for the CSM, and the only reaction is " Weak troll thread is weak 0/10"

It boggles the mind that someone can re post a thread several times specifically designed to troll but yet i have not been banned from posting"

If cyber bullies who get banned from the game for their antics are still allowed to run, why not a Neo-****?

one of the Goon candidates is Jewish, for example. see: "The Jewbal").

There are several null bears in the candidate pool, and most of them will get "elected".

Isn't that enough?

Because the law he is quoting specificly refers to government intervention in political office.

Basically, he's ~internet lawyering~ and getting it wrong.

For instance, in the UK, students have been expelled for giving the Hitler salute in schools. Surely not, according to Frying Doom!

frying doom if ccp was unable to kick someone off the csm because ~freedom of expression rights~ or w/e mittani'd still be [s]chairman[s/]

e: on the csm* he resigned as chair irrc it doesn't make a difference anyway

As the servers and these forums are held in England a strong case could be made for the inforcement of EU law in regards to anti-discrimination

So



So preventing someone from standing on the basis of their political beliefs would frankly just get CCP sued with a high probability of losing.

This is a treaty, a treaty is an article signed by a countries government that means that it will sculpt its laws to those that follow the treaty.

subsequently any breach by an EU country can cause the case to be handled be EU courts, for breaches of that treaty.

GǪand CCP is not a country and does not have any laws. It is pretty much entirely free to pick whom among its voluntary customers is their outwards face.

GǪwhich means CCP can't even breach it, much less be hauled off to the EU courts.

CCP is a private entity. Freedom of speech does not apply.

Freedom of speech does not include what was done their joking or not, plus then it entered EULA. As it was not a section covered by any law governing his religious or political beliefs.

He resigned from CSM5 and was excluded from being able to be a member of CSM 6.

Tippia was not talking freedom of speech,

and CCP must be a lucky company as apparently as it is not a country it does not have to follow any laws.

this is so stupid i can't even make sentences

Indeed I wasn't. I was talking about companies and how they differ from governments, but others most certainly were talking about freedom of speech. Not that freedom of association is any different.

Sure it does. It just doesn't have to follow the laws that regulate what laws governments are allowed to make and what policies they are allowed to hold, which is what the treaty is about.

The private entity CCP not wanting to be represented by a neonazi is a vastly different matter from the government of [whatever] now allowing people to join certain associations or movements.

Fair enough you feel that people should not have the right of political association.

now personally I missed this guys specific hate speech.

Nor would I defend someone right to incite violence, but I would defend someones right to political association.

Why would I care what the CSMs real world political views are, when it comes to a internet spaceship game's council?

this isn't about that. try again.

Ok so you would like CCP to discriminate against him for his opinions and political association.

So what would you say thats about? or is this another their skin isn't white so their not human argument?

YOU CAN NOT SERIOUSLY BE THIS THICK

DISCRIMINATION MEANS PREJUDICE

Don't discriminate against him for being a member of a political organisation.

At this point I'm really not sure if you guys know who the Nazis were...

At this point I'm really not sure if you guys know who the Nazis were...

This thread should be, and probably will be locked soon.

This thread should be, and probably will be locked soon.

Yet it's totally acceptable to use "N-word" and "jewbal" everywhere, from local chat to GSF CEO update, if you are goon.
Racism is cool and fun if it comes from fellow corp mate, isn't it?

Also, I thought we electing Council of Stellar Management, not Goonswarm Meet and Greet Annual Pub Crawl Party.

Political Correctness, it's what people use to close down any real debate. Also, people pointing fingers at others tend to be the biggest closet biggots.

Exacly this ^ What a person does or does not believe doesn't matter one bit as long as they are not using their platform as a CSM to espouse or promote violence or intolerant views. Full stop, there really are no other words necessary.

I would have hoped people would know this, anything else is akin to a medieval witch hunt.

Totally hypothetical question, but at what level of absolutely reprehensible personal views held by a CSM candidate would CCP say "thats it, you can't run". Like, (again, hypothetically) if an honest-to-God Neo-Nazi were running for CSM, would CCP bar them from the election? Allowing them to run is a tacit endorsement of their views, IMHO.

The CSM is about the game, not ones real life political views. Allowing someone to run for CSM in no way endorses their personal real life political beliefs.