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fredricko smit State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:11:00 - [1] - Quote Hi i want me and a couple corp buddies to come down to low sec and mine.I understand that lowsec is the wild west and would like some guidance on who owns or dominates which parts of low sec as close to amar as possible. I would be obviously willing to pay for mining rights as i know that i can't just stroll in and start claiming the ore. I want to pay the folk or faction who have about %90 of control in the area ,as i would like to mine in relative safety, i know that safety is not assured anywhere in eve but i figure if i pay the dominating force it will make my life much easier. Am i barking up the wrong tree and should stick to veld in high sec? BTW I'm no idiot so don't post asking for money i will reply to folk in game and we can come to some sort of arrangement.
De'Veldrin East India Ore Trade The East India Co. 1227	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote Asking for permission is a very good way to let unscrupulous individuals know when and where your mining ships will be present to kill. Just ninja in, mine the ore, and sneak out. Use scouts, and be ready to run like hell when required. Malcanis for CSM 8 Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin
fredricko smit State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:31:00 - [3] - Quote De'Veldrin wrote: Asking for permission is a very good way to let unscrupulous individuals know when and where your mining ships will be present to kill. Just ninja in, mine the ore, and sneak out. Use scouts, and be ready to run like hell when required. Unless they have a crystal ball then i don't see how they could know where I'm at cause i don't see anything in the OP to suggest otherwise.
Tah'ris Khlador Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation 717	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:34:00 - [4] - Quote Assuming you're posting on your main, if anyone cared enough, they could add you to their watchlist and then just run locates on you. Since you've announced you'll be mining in low sec, this is essentially a 250k isk kill. (The cost of running a level 4 locate). I'm Denzel Washington.
fredricko smit State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:36:00 - [5] - Quote not my main, and if there willing to go around all of low sec when I'm online had that been my main for a mere 250k kill then they deserve it lol.
Tah'ris Khlador Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation 717	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:39:00 - [6] - Quote fredricko smit wrote: not my main, and if there willing to go around all of low sec when I'm online had that been my main for a mere 250k kill then they deserve it lol. Since you aren't posting on your main, you're probably good in this instance. But you clearly misunderstood what a locator agent does. It is an NPC that will take your money and then return within a few minutes giving the location of whomever you ran the locate on. In this case, you, AFK, in a low sec system. They wouldn't be running all over low-sec trying to find you, they would go to the specific system. I'm Denzel Washington.
fredricko smit State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.28 19:44:00 - [7] - Quote Tah'ris Khlador wrote: fredricko smit wrote: not my main, and if there willing to go around all of low sec when I'm online had that been my main for a mere 250k kill then they deserve it lol. Since you aren't posting on your main, you're probably good in this instance. But you clearly misunderstood what a locator agent does. It is an NPC that will take your money and then return within a few minutes giving the location of whomever you ran the locate on. In this case, you, AFK, in a low sec system. They wouldn't be running all over low-sec trying to find you, they would go to the specific system. Interesting, i never knew that. and who said we don't learn something new every day?
Milan Nantucket New Eden Misfits 21	Posted - 2013.03.28 20:01:00 - [8] - Quote I own all of low sec... permit is 1bil per roid you kill
fredricko smit State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.28 20:04:00 - [9] - Quote Milan Nantucket wrote: I own all of low sec... permit is 1bil per roid you kill OK nice, i sent you 4b, Ohh wait this isn't the land of pink and fluffy teddy bears i must be in the wrong place lol.
ErrorRon Bad Security. 32	Posted - 2013.03.28 20:05:00 - [10] - Quote fredricko smit wrote: Hi i want me and a couple corp buddies to come down to low sec and mine.I understand that lowsec is the wild west and would like some guidance on who owns or dominates which parts of low sec as close to amar as possible. I would be obviously willing to pay for mining rights as i know that i can't just stroll in and start claiming the ore. I want to pay the folk or faction who have about %90 of control in the area ,as i would like to mine in relative safety, i know that safety is not assured anywhere in eve but i figure if i pay the dominating force it will make my life much easier. Am i barking up the wrong tree and should stick to veld in high sec? BTW I'm no idiot so don't post asking for money i will reply to folk in game and we can come to some sort of arrangement. Our corporation can offer you some protection and the likes for a humble fee. Shoot me a mail.

Monnty MIN0R THREAT 57	Posted - 2013.03.28 21:05:00 - [11] - Quote ^^ your corp name would suggest otherwise
Grayson Cole R.A.V.E.N. 9	Posted - 2013.03.28 21:08:00 - [12] - Quote No one "owns" low sec space. If you pay some kind of mining fee, there's nothing to prevent someone else from coming along and blowing up your ships...because the people you paid certainly aren't going to offer any kind of protection. Most likely, they'll just take your money, then gank you themselves.
Praxis Ginimic 272	Posted - 2013.03.28 23:40:00 - [13] - Quote You could pay some mercs to hang around the belt and fend off any pirates but they'll likely ask for more than it's worth to you. Just go ninja. It will be more fun. Or bring your own security. That would be even more fun.
Galan Amarias Kantian Principle 1	Posted - 2013.03.29 00:16:00 - [14] - Quote Find some folks who will use you as bait. That is the way to go.
Liam Inkuras Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 199	Posted - 2013.03.29 00:43:00 - [15] - Quote Nobody "claims" or "owns" certain areas of lowsec. It is open to everyone, therefor security is hard to provide. Honestly, I think most people would simply take your money and shoot you. Free isk for them. You are better to all jump in Ventures, scan down a gravimetric site, and ninja in and get out.
Singeabooty Raj Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 407	Posted - 2013.03.29 01:49:00 - [16] - Quote OP posts in Erotica 1's thread claiming the concept of people willing to double isk is ridiculous then makes this thread. Either a bad troll or another clown passing through with the travelling circus. Black Man with Goggles
Capt Starfox New Order Logistics CODE. 415	Posted - 2013.03.29 06:56:00 - [17] - Quote I once looked into low sec mining awhile back. Unless you have to have it for manufacturing and not simply right click selling, or even hauling it back to Jita and throwing it on the market, Low-Sec ore isn't worth it. If anything bring in a Venture and ninja gas harvest. If you're set on mining ore in Low-sec my honest opinion is ninja mining with a venture. It would be great to find a suitable Low-sec system right next to a high-sec system using the HS system as your base of operations and transport the ore back and forth; either by setting up a safespot and jet-can the ore there and use a fast indy during off hours with a scout and haul the ore, or transport the ore each cargo load (not really the best way, but it is a Venture). Granted you will be moving back and forth often and that will kill time. If you could locate a deadspace/exploration belt, that would be better. Gate camp isn't going to get you in a venture most of the time unless it's a disco gate came, then you're dead. If there's a gate camp when you bring in the indy, unless you're using a fast Blockade runner, you're probably dead. Of course that's where the scout comes in. Don't pay anyone. Odds are that will be a waste of ISK. Say you purchase this mining right from a Corp that resides in system Y, you're going to mine in system Y, why wouldn't you? So now they know at some point in time you and your corp/friends will be mining in that system, or at the very least close to it. Aside from that, locator agents once the Corp in question knows the names of you and your corpmates. Hope this helps. James 315 for CSM 8
Mike Adoulin Trans-Aerospace Industries 207	Posted - 2013.03.29 10:41:00 - [18] - Quote Meh. Find a nice quiet lowsec system, with no stations in it (no place to dock up for intruders), build yerself a Death Star (I recommend using an Amarr large control tower), and claim the system for yourself. War!!! Treachery!! Spais!!!! Much fun will be had by you and your corp. Also, build carriers. Lots and lots of carriers.
admiral root Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 498	Posted - 2013.03.29 12:31:00 - [19] - Quote Liam Inkuras wrote: Nobody "claims" or "owns" certain areas of lowsec.... ...unless they're willing and able to bring sufficient firepower to take and hold it, in which case they do own it. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Tauren Tom Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz 84	Posted - 2013.03.29 18:57:00 - [20] - Quote This is like mining permits... Paying someone just means they won't pop you right away, but the next guy will... In the grand scheme of things... You're all pubbies. So HTFU."It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses." - Elwood Blues

Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 3010	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:00:00 - [21] - Quote Singeabooty Raj wrote: OP posts in Erotica 1's thread claiming the concept of people willing to double isk is ridiculous then makes this thread. Either a bad troll or another clown passing through with the travelling circus. My vote is bad troll. Trust me. Im somewhat of an authority on these things. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Rovain Sess Weapons of Divine Temper 6	Posted - 2013.03.29 22:59:00 - [22] - Quote This is a joke right. First, nobody owns low sec, so paying a supposed landlord is well - a bad idea. So I accept your payment, and then u get poned by passerby's. Just find a slow system, stay aligned, warp at the 1st sign of trouble ( whenever something pops into local).Better yet - don't mine in low sec - cuz eventually ur Gunna die. Then again maybe the reward is worth the risk, but I really doubt it.
Lugia3 Lurking Beneath 356	Posted - 2013.03.30 05:11:00 - [23] - Quote So, you want to mine in our space? Pay "Lugia3" 50 million ISK to start your "subscription". Yarr
Diesel47 Bad Men Ltd. 582	Posted - 2013.03.30 06:58:00 - [24] - Quote Contact or mail me ingame OP. I think I might have an offer you'd be interested in.
Unit757 Intentionally Dense Angeli Mortis 38	Posted - 2013.03.30 15:06:00 - [25] - Quote I can assist you in this matter. Evemail me for details.
Lugia3 Lurking Beneath 358	Posted - 2013.03.31 00:13:00 - [26] - Quote My minions, let me handle the payments! Yarr
Andrea Skye FLA5HY RED 10	Posted - 2013.03.31 08:38:00 - [27] - Quote Low sec is nothing like 0.0. There is no dominant corps (except maybe rancer). Nobody owns systems, they just live there. I have never not been to a system (again, except maybe rancer) just because someone else lived there. I roam around looking for kills and if I saw a miner in a belt id be all over it. I am one of many of the low sec inhabitants with the same philosophy. So, my advice to you is. Find a dead group of systems/system. (i recommend somewhere in amarr low sec, as its least populated. Not faction war space.) and simply just mine there without paying anybody. If you find a system that's out the way of the main pipes, you should be able to mine in relative peace. Just don't tell anyone you are there or what you are doing. Another thing to point out, some systems do not have stations. These will probably be your best bet, as long as you have some way to haul the ore. I know a system near me, that is basically abandoned 99.99% of the time because its not fw space, it out of the main pipe, and it doesn't have a station. There is no reason for anybody to go there other than refuel their POS's
Sabriz Adoudel Resurgent Threat 171	Posted - 2013.03.31 14:30:00 - [28] - Quote Two combat ships (I'd use HACs) and ten mining barges. Never mine in the first belt, the last belt, or any belts at the same planets as those ones. If you see three or more neutrals in local, GTFO. If you see a cyno lit in local, GTFO. Do not finish mining cycles, just GTFO. If you need a diversion, have a throwaway frigate light a cyno. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315
Praxis Ginimic 275	Posted - 2013.03.31 14:47:00 - [29] - Quote ^^this^^ Also fit 2 webs on every barge. Align to a station and every one double web everyone. You will be ready to insta warp at a crawl that allows a barge to do its thing.
Cyprus Black Perkone Caldari State 732	Posted - 2013.04.02 08:33:00 - [30] - Quote Why do you want to mine in lowsec anyways? Lowsec has pretty much the exact same ores as highsec with the exception of Jaspet. Are you really going to lowsec just to mine Jaspet? That amount of risk for the exact same rewards you can get in highsec just seems unnecessary. Regardless, you don't pay anyone or ask permission from anyone to mine in lowsec. Doing so announces your location and intentions. If you absolutely must mine in lowsec (God knows why since it's not profitable over highsec), either sacrifice a highslot on your mining barge for the use of a cloak or have everyone running around in Venture mining frigates. Those little bastards are hard to catch and have an ore hold of 5k. They can efficiently mine gas too. Trolling is like art. Anyone can finger paint, but it takes true talent to create a masterpiece.



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