Ummm...99% of what most people do in nullsec is PVE.

It's not for nothing we call them "nullbears".

this is perfect example of regular goonie posts. shows why they can be easily ignored most of a time

you haven't provided any facts. Only stupid assumptions (like "idiot"). And unproven opinion "99% of what most people do in nullsec is PVE = wrong".

So what do i lose ignoring you on the first place? Nothing. As i said already.

2. "incorrect stamement" - I would like to see any other reasons outside of "basically empty outside of fleetfights" which needs another proof. Let's say goonswarm alliance has 7000 members (exact number doesn't matter here). Fleetfights rarely draws more than 500-1000 people for one side and take from few to several hours. How it is possible to fleetfights to be the main job of said alliance? I guess the same can be said about any big alliance.

1. Ratting (let us know when the rats lose their AI status!).
2. Standings grinding (especially at NPC stations).
3. Any trading involved (read #1).
4. Mining and all associated industry (your ships that's built in those arrays isn't a PvP activity).

There's more but you get the drift. There's a lot of PvE activity that's done in the game even in -0.3 space, and you're going to be doing it.

again: will we see any real numbers? Or this is another "i'm right because i'm right"?

trying to move subject.
sorry but question is: why "99% is ..." is wrong.


and again: you won't move the subject
Because i don't know exact number. And no one knows. But Lord Zim said that he KNOWS and we discuss it.

I wouldn't call it "loving embrace". if you love someone you wouldn't let anybody hurt them. and concord only respond AFTER you hurt someone. they never prevent it

Well, my definition of success, requires success, which burn Jita 1.0 did not have. Couple of goons running around, killed a few indys and otherwise hid from their WT's or else ran crying to the GM's as soon as they got caught.

Thats pretty much fail.

Yes and I also realize that if a burn jita is run that crimewatch *SHOULD* help shut it down fairly effectively - with far more massive *ACTUAL* highsec PvP vs "shoot the unarmed ships!"

During the first one, E-Uni had to tell many members to stop trying to pop gankers. There were timing issues with going flashy vs actually being a valid target that got many concordonked for trying to nail them.

Many players fighting against it stopped due to these issues - which "your side" probably never even realized as why more didn't show up and stick around to fight You all just figured "bunch of cowards" and that wasn't the case for many of them.

This would mean those into combat would and could come up there and blow the snot out of those trying to gank all the time.

Eternally so.

I do believe things can get better and be proven to be other than they appear. But without trial, testing and proofs, statements boil down to allegorical anecdotes based upon faith and belief vs proven facts.

Ergo: Test it. Maybe it'll surprise you.

This was a really long way of saying "please stop shooting me, I'm running out of tears".

Nope, you still don't get it. What you've described is a pittance to Jita; its nothing, nada, zip. The titanni wanted to world to wake up and see him in all his majesty, and Jita responded with complete utter apathy. It simply didn't care.

Sucks to be you.

With rock salt.

The one place the Goonies can't own or pwn, as it's residents simply, and truly, don't care.

Sure I'll keep posting, as this is fun even.

I'll tell you quite simply...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfNs1pqG0

And now you understand why you can't let the inmates run the asylum.

First time, it's a shock.

Second time, they seen the show already.

Not much else to talk about.

Smaller community = less forum topics (and seeded topics).