Ahem.
I'm sorry to break this lovely atmosphere of joy, but

REFINING ARRAYS STILL SUCK!

Can you please do something about it?
Or at least explain briefly the rationale behind them sucking so hard.
In my opinion losing 30% or so of what you mined does not make any sense.

Another quick note, Refining Arrays are definitely on our list of starbase issues. I can't say at this time when a fix will come though.

I love all these POS changes!

However, 10k-40k m3 is a TINY amount per person. If you are a miner, you can fill that up in under an hour with one barge! When combined with the 3 hour cycle time of the Intensive Refining Array, I don't see how this will work for WH miners.

Also, can we do something about the intensive refining array? It takes up 4k cpu and 750k pg, takes 3 hours to run, refines at 70% (unaffected by skills), can only refine one type of ore at a time, and doesn't even have tabs! The medium intensive is identical except it takes 1/2 the fitting (still at ton), takes 1.5 hours to run, and holds 1/8th as much.

Which would explain why:

1: It's taking a while to rework, as it touches on so many critical aspects of the game and is therefore very complicated.
2: The rework is being planned carefully, and will require a total rewrite of the system.
3: They are fixing what they can now to make life easier until the large project is done.

Previously I apologize for the google translation


I strongly disagree with the fact that the ship repackaging overflow the ship assembly array. Remember that in advanced ship assembly array for construction T2 ships are used repackaged T1 ships as the incoming component. In W-space this leads to the necessity of the production of T1 ships on the same POS as the T2 that is very inconvenient and not always possible. If you don't want to allow ship assembly arrays to repackaging ships - go ahead. But advanced ship assembly arrays must have ability to repackaging ships.

IMO remove the 75% cap, and set the base refine to be something such that you reach 100% with all relevant refining skills (on the person who starts the refining process) to 5.

IMHO X-large SMA needs visual size reduce.

If you want to take smaller steps that have a larger positive impact on players, some good options are:

a) Rebalancing starbase weapons as discussed earlier in this thread, to bring them in line with modern ships. Largely a case of tweaking stats rather than any real coding.

b) Extending the existing starbase logs available to GM's to players, allowing them to see which spy is messing with their precious towers. That should help reduce paranoia somewhat when managing large numbers of structures.

Bump for POS weapons - Fozzie, please tell us this is coming in Odyssey 1.1.

I saw a perfect reminder of why this is needed earlier this week. While using multiple alts with SDM V trained and faction pos weapons, it was nearly impossible to kill subcaps bigger than frigates.

Back in 2006, before manual pos-gunning even existed, starbases were a threat to even dreadnoughts due to the sheer damage power. Small capital fleets had to draw fire away from dreads by throwing frigates on the field to distract the weapons, or dreads could quite easily explode.

Now we have subcaps that not only have many times the EHP* that dreads had back in 2006, but they can also be easily remote-repped by fleets that commonly field dozens of logi cruisers. POS guns don't do anymore damage, don't track any better, and take ages to lock these targets.
Even if you are incredibly lucky and manage to shoot the one battleship who forgets to broadcast for reps, chances are you'll only be able to lock half-a-dozen targets in total before the fleet has achieved their objective (shooting the jumpbridge, TCU, etc).

Please Fozzie, we want our fully armed and operational deathstars back.

*even some cruisers have more EHP than 2006-era Dreadnoughts