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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2005.09.08 21:43:00 -
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i got my rof to 7.87 without mods, so far.
all ready go hac to 5, heavy specialisation to 4 rapid fire to 4 -4days and hald to 5, training.
but can some one calculate accurately what will the orf be with 4 BC pandomonium,
and skills ate max.
in my case i still have 2% and 3% to get from skills . alone.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2005.09.09 00:35:00 -
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I thin Jim Raynor told me with Max skills Cerbie gets 333 DPS, thats still pretty poor IMO i dont fly Caldari hacs but i think Cerbie needs an extra launcher slot, or 10% to all missile daamges instead of 5% to kinetic
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.09 00:47:00 -
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My current Cerberus ROF is 5.92sec
Current damage per KINETIC Heavy Missile is 353.2
Current DPS = 298
This is achieved by using four dread gurista ballistic controls.
The only skills left to enhance damage further:
Heavy Assault Ships 5 will drop the ROF by 5% [training]
Warheads 5 will increase missile damage by 2%
Heavy Missile Specialization 5 will decrease ROF by an additional 2%
I do believe the theoretical maximum damage output a Cerberus can possibly ever do, using faction ballistics (not officer), is ~333dps.
While 333 is pretty low.. you can do it from up to 160km, which is pretty cool. Realistically though, even from 40-60km that's not too shabby.. still though Cerberus is pretty lacking unfortunately. 
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ELECTR0FREAK
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Posted - 2005.09.09 04:13:00 -
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^
doh. stupid alt.
-Electrofreak
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Trace RT
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Posted - 2005.09.09 04:13:00 -
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With normal BCS, and more normal skills, you're looking at around 250-260 DPS in a Cerb. Thats full gank, it doesn't leave much room for defensive fittings.
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim Raynor
My current Cerberus ROF is 5.92sec
Current damage per KINETIC Heavy Missile is 353.2
Current DPS = 298
This is achieved by using four dread gurista ballistic controls.
The only skills left to enhance damage further:
Heavy Assault Ships 5 will drop the ROF by 5% [training]
Warheads 5 will increase missile damage by 2%
Heavy Missile Specialization 5 will decrease ROF by an additional 2%
I do believe the theoretical maximum damage output a Cerberus can possibly ever do, using faction ballistics (not officer), is ~333dps.
While 333 is pretty low.. you can do it from up to 160km, which is pretty cool. Realistically though, even from 40-60km that's not too shabby.. still though Cerberus is pretty lacking unfortunately.
whats ur rof without damage mods, while using t2 lunchers or arbs heavys.
i have 6.3 rof with 4 balistic control 1
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 09/09/2005 07:10:31
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Jim Raynor
My current Cerberus ROF is 5.92sec
Current damage per KINETIC Heavy Missile is 353.2
Current DPS = 298
This is achieved by using four dread gurista ballistic controls.
The only skills left to enhance damage further:
Heavy Assault Ships 5 will drop the ROF by 5% [training]
Warheads 5 will increase missile damage by 2%
Heavy Missile Specialization 5 will decrease ROF by an additional 2%
I do believe the theoretical maximum damage output a Cerberus can possibly ever do, using faction ballistics (not officer), is ~333dps.
While 333 is pretty low.. you can do it from up to 160km, which is pretty cool. Realistically though, even from 40-60km that's not too shabby.. still though Cerberus is pretty lacking unfortunately.
whats ur rof without damage mods, while using t2 lunchers or arbs heavys.
i have 6.3 rof with 4 balistic control 1
8.11sec without any mods what so ever 6.5 with 4 regular BCU tech1
you must have HAC @ 5, congrats, im working on that now =P
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:39:00 -
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Just curious, how much lower is the DPS if you fit Assault launchers and standard missiles?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
Just curious, how much lower is the DPS if you fit Assault launchers and standard missiles?
im not sure, that would require me to train standard missiles to 4 to find out =(
i guess i could do the maths when i dock, i'll edit this if i bother!
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2005.09.09 08:19:00 -
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Didn't want to cause you any bother...it's just I mission run (level 3's) in mine and found it MUCH more effective (to my mind at least) than using the heavy launchers...and I have heavies to 5, and standards to 3.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.09 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
Didn't want to cause you any bother...it's just I mission run (level 3's) in mine and found it MUCH more effective (to my mind at least) than using the heavy launchers...and I have heavies to 5, and standards to 3.
no bother ive been curious too but i know for sure the DPS is way lower than using heavys.. nice vs frigates though.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2005.09.09 09:54:00 -
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I suppose that could be why I like it...level 3's = lots of frigates. It's the only ship I've found that can tear the arse out of a Mercenary Wingman in an acceptable amount of time. It's not TOO bad against cruisers either. I suppose what I'm saying is you have to balance the lower DPS against the fact that I get no losses from the stupid sig radius rules.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.09 10:40:00 -
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but yeah, the thing is. Caldari have no medium close range missles
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Grey Area
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Posted - 2005.09.09 13:19:00 -
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Nafri, is that post supposed to mean something?
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DadyCool
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Posted - 2005.09.09 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: DadyCool on 09/09/2005 15:07:22
Originally by: Grey Area
Nafri, is that post supposed to mean something?[/quot
I guess she tryed to act smart again by making a meaningless post 
...and oh before you say it ...
this aint a alt :P
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.09 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
Nafri, is that post supposed to mean something?
that caldari dont have any medium close range missles (like rockets/torpedos)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.09 17:46:00 -
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Well yeah it's true heavy missiles are more on par with 650/720mm Howitzers, 250mm Rails, and Heavy Beams then they are blasters, autocannons, and pulse..
The Assault Launcher gives you decreased range, decreased damage output.. but easier fittings.. it's a lot like the old cruise missile launcher really.. there's really no reason to fit it, unless you are fighting frigates.
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