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Alexstrazaas Perkone Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.04.03 23:25:00 - [1] - Quote title says it all. seen a few threads talking about it but no fits. i am basically maxed on gunnery skills and hybrids and only lacking lvl 5 for both rail and blaster spec's of all sizes got all subsystems to 3 finishing caldari cruisor to 5 and will raise the ubsystems to 4 then after that looking at getting a tengu just because it's a tengu and they are good subsystem wise i think i know what i need but more info never hurts
Dibblerette The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY 146	Posted - 2013.04.03 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote Alexstrazaas wrote: title says it all. looking at getting a tengu just because it's a tengu and they are good They're good because of the spectacular bonuses they get to MISSILES. Blaster Tengu is a waste of money, either train armor and get a Proteus, or invest in a nice Ferox. EDIT: Sorry if that sounded blunt, but if you EFT it, you'll see what I'm talking about. The damage bonus on the hybrid subsystem isn't great, so you end up doing slightly more damage than heavy missiles, but with 15% the range. I believe a Tengu with HAMs would out-dps blasters, and certainly outrange them.
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 1122	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:19:00 - [3] - Quote A good blaster Tengu is hard to pin down. It can take many shapes -- possibly any shape, really. In fact, if you capture it it will be able to answer all your questions. But it's slippery. Also, fond of water.
Alexa Coates Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC 341	Posted - 2013.04.04 01:30:00 - [4] - Quote -take standard tengu fit -replace missile sub with hybrid sub -slap on magstabs+blasters -slap on some hybrid rigs -???????? -fail miserably. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Alexstrazaas Perkone Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.04.04 02:30:00 - [5] - Quote such a negative crowd, any one want to truly help out here?
Camper101 Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 402	Posted - 2013.04.04 06:36:00 - [6] - Quote Alexstrazaas wrote: such a negative crowd, any one want to truly help out here? Alexa Coates wrote: -take standard tengu fit -replace missile sub with hybrid sub -slap on magstabs+blasters 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
Morrigan LeSante The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 231	Posted - 2013.04.04 06:56:00 - [7] - Quote Alexstrazaas wrote: such a negative crowd In fairness, it's not unjust. It's a bit like putting small ACs on a Mach....I mean .. sure...you can...but....
Roime Shiva Furnace 2407	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:24:00 - [8] - Quote Missile Tengu is broken, it gets triple bonus to missiles. Blaster Tengu doesn't get triple bonus to blasters. Missile Tengu > blaster Tengu Blaster Proteus > all hope this helped you in your quest -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
Critical Issue State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:32:00 - [9] - Quote dat cleavage
Ivy Romanova Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 866	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:09:00 - [10] - Quote Blasters for proteus Missiles for tengu AC for Loki Bunny rabbits for the Legion. Didn't you get the memo? (¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à(¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦à¦à¦à¦à¦à¦à(¦à_¦à_¦¦¦à-+¦¦¦à-¡-¡-¡-¡-¡a¦¦¦à-Å¦¦¦ài¦¦¦àj¦¦¦àu¦¦¦àa¦¦¦àn¦¦¦àa¦¦-¡¦à-¡-¡¦à-¡_-¡¦à-¡_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à_¦à-¡-¡¦à(-¡)~~-¡~n++

Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries 133	Posted - 2013.04.04 09:53:00 - [11] - Quote Dibblerette wrote: EDIT: Sorry if that sounded blunt, but if you EFT it, you'll see what I'm talking about. The damage bonus on the hybrid subsystem isn't great, so you end up doing slightly more damage than heavy missiles, but with 15% the range. I believe a Tengu with HAMs would out-dps blasters, and certainly outrange them. Maybe if you just look at the EFT numbers. Once you consider tracking the blaster Tengu at optimal is significantly out-damaging the missile setups. Not that it changes the end result by much though, you're still better off getting a Brutix and having 400 million ISK left to buy a few more.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos 821	Posted - 2013.04.04 11:22:00 - [12] - Quote dual large ASB and nuetrons If you have max fitting skills and a bit of cash for the odd fancy mod or two and need to tank particularly insanely: Dual x-l ASB and electrons. Yes it fits but 10mn AB only, mwd is doable but you lose too much deeps from reactors or tank with ancils. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
Morrigan LeSante The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 231	Posted - 2013.04.04 11:54:00 - [13] - Quote Merin Ryskin wrote: Dibblerette wrote: EDIT: Sorry if that sounded blunt, but if you EFT it, you'll see what I'm talking about. The damage bonus on the hybrid subsystem isn't great, so you end up doing slightly more damage than heavy missiles, but with 15% the range. I believe a Tengu with HAMs would out-dps blasters, and certainly outrange them. Maybe if you just look at the EFT numbers. Once you consider tracking the blaster Tengu at optimal is significantly out-damaging the missile setups. Is that the tracking the missiles neither need, nor care about? And if you're going short range and ignoring travel time, the HAM tengu is bat**** crazy.
Alexstrazaas Perkone Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.04.04 16:54:00 - [14] - Quote Muad 'dib wrote: dual large ASB and nuetrons If you have max fitting skills and a bit of cash for the odd fancy mod or two and need to tank particularly insanely: Dual x-l ASB and electrons. Yes it fits but 10mn AB only, mwd is doable but you lose too much deeps from reactors or tank with ancils. OMG INFORMATION FINALLY! also i usually never touch mwd, just kills to much cap although i see it useful for tacklers
illirdor Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 51	Posted - 2013.04.04 19:38:00 - [15] - Quote Alexstrazaas wrote: Muad 'dib wrote: dual large ASB and nuetrons If you have max fitting skills and a bit of cash for the odd fancy mod or two and need to tank particularly insanely: Dual x-l ASB and electrons. Yes it fits but 10mn AB only, mwd is doable but you lose too much deeps from reactors or tank with ancils. OMG INFORMATION FINALLY! also i usually never touch mwd, just kills to much cap although i see it useful for tacklers Well the speed from the mwd is mighty usefull for a blaster anything to get in range... James Arget for CSM 8! http://csm.fcftw.org
Alphaphi TULAZHVESK Arsenal 19	Posted - 2013.04.04 19:55:00 - [16] - Quote brewed this brawler fit up a bit'o time ago, it works decently, but you have to bait players in to range. note that it's mostly a 1v1 brawler fit though. once they're caught they get a nasty surprise. it works, but a proteus can do the job better Stats: EHP: 93,339 resist: 65.2/90.9/86.4/77.4 speed: 633 m/sec cap: 25minutes CN anti, 7m 55s Void align: 7sec DPS: cold/heat - opt+falloff CN anti: 667/767 - 4.5+6.3 void: 745/856 - 6.8+3.1 Null: 532/612 - 13+8.8 [Tengu, brawling tengu with a WTF surprise] Damage Control II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II 10MN Afterburner II True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Stasis Webifier Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
BadAssMcKill Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 212	Posted - 2013.04.04 20:30:00 - [17] - Quote This is what I'd fly http://puu.sh/2tTkR Starships were meant to fly~ http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries 133	Posted - 2013.04.04 22:13:00 - [18] - Quote Morrigan LeSante wrote: Is that the tracking the missiles neither need, nor care about? "Tracking" as in speed and signature radius. Missile Tengus have great EFT dps, but once you consider real damage the blaster setup has a significant advantage since it can apply a greater percentage of its theoretical maximum dps.
Alexstrazaas Perkone Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.04.04 22:45:00 - [19] - Quote meh well in 12 days i will have a tengu!
Morrigan LeSante The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 232	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:18:00 - [20] - Quote Merin Ryskin wrote: Morrigan LeSante wrote: Is that the tracking the missiles neither need, nor care about? "Tracking" as in speed and signature radius. Missile Tengus have great EFT dps, but once you consider real damage the blaster setup has a significant advantage since it can apply a greater percentage of its theoretical maximum dps. A properly fit ship is only really going to lose [material] DPS to speed, tiny targets aside and the speeds required to make serious mitigation will probably put tracking to the sword too. Come near a properly fit HAM tengu and you'll feel the pain, significantly more than blasters. HAMs, with max skills, proper rigs and no implants are at 116m radius...that's going to HURT. especially at 880-900+ dps (kit depending). Complete with space for a web/TP if the mood takes I'm not underestimating blasters, I think though, that you're underestimating the evil incarnate of the properly fit HAM tengu. Of course...travel time sinks it. Edit: @OP It's not that a turrt tengu is bad per-se...just that....it pales next to the launcher breeds.

Jack Miton Aperture Harmonics K162 1566	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:25:00 - [21] - Quote Haters gonna hate. Missiles are for girls. This is how I fit my blaster tengu: Quote: [Tengu, Pulsar Blaster] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer EM Ward Field II Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive True Sansha Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
Alexstrazaas Perkone Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:31:00 - [22] - Quote thanks for fit info guys
Fredfredbug4 Eve Defence Force Tribal Band 651	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:33:00 - [23] - Quote Like the others said, a Blaster Tengu isn't necessarily bad, there are just much better options out there. If you really insist on going through with it, go ahead. I actually like seeing people who use underdog ships and/or underdog fittings. Just keep in mind that you are making things more difficult for yourself, if you've never flown a T3 before you're going to make mistakes. Mistakes will be a lot more forgiving with a HAM or HML Tengu than a hybrid one. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 256	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:39:00 - [24] - Quote Alexstrazaas wrote: such a negative crowd, any one want to truly help out here? Taking into consideration the competitve nature of the average EvE player, the low tolerance threshold usually displayed towards this sort of requests, and how wonderful would it be to collect blaster Tengu lossmails from unwary victims, I am honestly surprised that there are no "honest" fits trying to encourage you to actually throw yourself down the path of FAIL. By all means fit blasters to your Tengus, my good man. Also, fit a cloak and the Interdiction nullifier subsystem, and please be so kind as to enlighten us on your current whereabouts, should you decide to set foot on systems below 0.5


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