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Gun Kata	Posted - 2005.09.09 11:07:00 - [1] Yeah it is Optimax but is WAS 96 pence per litre a few days ago. So glad I dont drive a 3 litre car.... "I have seen everything now." "Yeah? Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?"
Valisk	Posted - 2005.09.09 11:52:00 - [2] Yep, just paid that for Optimax... My daily commute is over 120 miles. I'm going to have to sell my car and buy a ratty old deisel... :-C DAB Eve Division
RedClaws	Posted - 2005.09.09 12:03:00 - [3] Meanwhile : http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,11319,1402979,00.html
Adam C	Posted - 2005.09.09 12:06:00 - [4] patrolpolicticsnothingtodowitheveonline.com? This is what a forum monster looks like. We all have them!----->
Laythun	Posted - 2005.09.09 12:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Adam C patrolpolicticsnothingtodowitheveonline.com? repeat after me.... Out Of Pod Experience Forum anyway. its like 98p where i live still and thats regular unleaded, and i drive a2 litre turbo so im staying home to play eve, its cheaper "I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical piquants of cheese wotsits"
Gun Kata	Posted - 2005.09.09 12:39:00 - [6] Originally by: RedClaws Meanwhile : http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,11319,1402979,00.html pffft. Only $25 billion PROFIT. Time to by a scooter.... "I have seen everything now." "Yeah? Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?"
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.09.09 12:46:00 - [7] Edited by: Bhaal on 09/09/2005 12:47:05 Gas has gone down here where I live, $0.30/gallon since the weekend... It went up $0.50/gallon in one day, but watch it take months for the oil companies to reduce the price back to where it should be... Bastards Quote: My daily commute is over 120 miles Ouch! I drive a 5.7 litre vehicle 52 miles/day... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Ebedar	Posted - 2005.09.09 13:35:00 - [8] Not sure how up to date this is, but hopefully it will help some of you (not me, I prefer walking ): http://www.cheap-petrol.co.uk/ One Step Further
Galk	Posted - 2005.09.09 13:36:00 - [9] Got it all to look forward to i guess when i get my licence back. ú1 a litre, hell when i first started driving it was less than half that, swings and roundabouts i guess, but at least i don't drive, or won't be driving a 2.5 v6 anymore, im back to days of old in a small eco 1.2. Suppose there's good and bad in that (no more flash poncing about) though tbh i never realy payed much attention to the price of fuel anyway over the last few years, to me it's the same with a drink down the pub, or a pack of 20.... whats cost if you want/need it. And they say ignorance is bliss, truth be told in todays cynical world, it probaly is -------- 23 Arguing that namechanging would promote griefing is somewhat moot given the current FFA on that front. 'Danton Marcellus'
Edge1	Posted - 2005.09.09 13:38:00 - [10] Get a motorbike \o/ Better fuel efficiency then most cars, and you'll blow all but the supercars away from the lights..... not that I do that of course.
Mad Ahab	Posted - 2005.09.09 14:22:00 - [11] Wow... 8.32 USD a gallon. That's criminal. . Isn't there something being done about a price choke on petroleum there? I read a couple of articles in the Guardian but didn't see anything about such a proposal. Honestly I didn't realize how bad it was until I actually did the conversions. That can't be helping anyone out except the rich. Isn't it wonderful we all live in one big corporate gulag now? I've never been to Britain, how many people commute vs. using mass transit? "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Gias Soreno	Posted - 2005.09.09 14:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Bhaal Edited by: Bhaal on 09/09/2005 12:47:05 It went up $0.50/gallon in one day, but watch it take months for the oil companies to reduce the price back to where it should be... Bastards How many litres in a US gallon? Any ideas?
Mad Ahab	Posted - 2005.09.09 14:42:00 - [13] Well in Canada they use roughly 4.55 litres to their gallon measurement. Although technically a gallon should be 3.78 litres. At that measurement It's still 6.91 a US Gallon if you convert pounds to USD. At least I belive that's accurate. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.09.09 14:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Gias Soreno Originally by: Bhaal Edited by: Bhaal on 09/09/2005 12:47:05 It went up $0.50/gallon in one day, but watch it take months for the oil companies to reduce the price back to where it should be... Bastards How many litres in a US gallon? Any ideas? Unit Converter ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2005.09.09 14:55:00 - [15] Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/09/2005 14:56:09 You also have to remember, there's a major difference between European countries and US/Canada. In Europe the mass transportation systems are much better and more available, so personal vehicles aren't used as much as in the US/Ca. Also gas is heavily taxed. In they US, we have to drive to get pretty much anywhere - work, school, etc. Gas is cheaper, but we use more of it. Using an example from my corp, my friends from England get to school (or anywhere really) by walking or taking the train/bus, even if they live off campus or across town. I live off campus and go to a local school, but I have to drive there and back four times a week, which is a 30 minute trip. Its impossible for me to get to school by walking or train/bus. If I want to go into town, I still have to drive there. Suburban sprawl makes the US waste a huge amount of gas. Just an observation.
MooKids	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:31:00 - [16] I remember seeing some interesting info a while back. Gas prices in the US, Canada and most European countries are actually the same price. However, each country has a different tax rate, it just so happens that the Europeans get the shaft for gas. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Xrak	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/09/2005 14:56:09 You also have to remember, there's a major difference between European countries and US/Canada. In Europe the mass transportation systems are much better and more available, so personal vehicles aren't used as much as in the US/Ca. Also gas is heavily taxed. In they US, we have to drive to get pretty much anywhere - work, school, etc. Gas is cheaper, but we use more of it. Using an example from my corp, my friends from England get to school (or anywhere really) by walking or taking the train/bus, even if they live off campus or across town. I live off campus and go to a local school, but I have to drive there and back four times a week, which is a 30 minute trip. Its impossible for me to get to school by walking or train/bus. If I want to go into town, I still have to drive there. Suburban sprawl makes the US waste a huge amount of gas. Just an observation. Id say the biggest problem in America is the amazing efficiency of the cars you drive.
Mad Ahab	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/09/2005 14:56:09 You also have to remember, there's a major difference between European countries and US/Canada. In Europe the mass transportation systems are much better and more available, so personal vehicles aren't used as much as in the US/Ca. Also gas is heavily taxed. In they US, we have to drive to get pretty much anywhere - work, school, etc. Gas is cheaper, but we use more of it. Using an example from my corp, my friends from England get to school (or anywhere really) by walking or taking the train/bus, even if they live off campus or across town. I live off campus and go to a local school, but I have to drive there and back four times a week, which is a 30 minute trip. Its impossible for me to get to school by walking or train/bus. If I want to go into town, I still have to drive there. Suburban sprawl makes the US waste a huge amount of gas. Just an observation. Yeah that's about as bad as my 45 minute drive. One guy I work with drives an hour and a half to get here! It would be nice to get a job closer to home, but the economy is crap so unless I want to take a 4-5 USD an hour paycut I work out here. I heard that Europe had a more efficient mass transit system, but always wondered what the ratio of people that use mass transit for work vs. commuting to work was. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Quanteeri	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:40:00 - [19] I might have to get me a Vespa.
Nuclear Option	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Xrak Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/09/2005 14:56:09 You also have to remember, there's a major difference between European countries and US/Canada. In Europe the mass transportation systems are much better and more available, so personal vehicles aren't used as much as in the US/Ca. Also gas is heavily taxed. In they US, we have to drive to get pretty much anywhere - work, school, etc. Gas is cheaper, but we use more of it. Using an example from my corp, my friends from England get to school (or anywhere really) by walking or taking the train/bus, even if they live off campus or across town. I live off campus and go to a local school, but I have to drive there and back four times a week, which is a 30 minute trip. Its impossible for me to get to school by walking or train/bus. If I want to go into town, I still have to drive there. Suburban sprawl makes the US waste a huge amount of gas. Just an observation. Id say the biggest problem in America is the amazing efficiency of the cars you drive. Sorry we don't drive eggs around. Could be because our government is a quasi-socialist nightmare where we tax everyone immensenly?
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:48:00 - [21] 91.3p for unleadded here Possibly one of the 23 # ex: P-TMC \| USAC
Mad Ahab	Posted - 2005.09.09 16:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Xrak Id say the biggest problem in America is the amazing efficiency of the cars you drive. Yeah, your typical grocery-getter Hondas floating around only get 26 miles to 30 miles to the gallon. However, alot of people like the convenience of a large vehicle. Because a large vehicle has many utilitarian uses, it ends up being the vehicle of preference for a majority of people here. there are some that don't need to drive them that do, but who are we to tell them what to buy? If manufacturers could make a large vehicle that gets 26-30 miles to the gallon like your little grocery-getter Honda type cars, they would sell like hotcakes. The problem is, none to be made and none to be bought. I don't want to get into conspiracy theories but I'll just say that the mutual lining of pockets has alot to do with that. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Gun Kata	Posted - 2005.09.09 16:25:00 - [23] Edited by: Gun Kata on 09/09/2005 16:26:06 Here's another thing: If a litre of fuel costs me 101.9 pence, how do they work out the .9 etc when they total it up?? Last time I checked 1 pence was the smallest bit a money you could get in the UK. So where do all of the bits go? "I have seen everything now." "Yeah? Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?"
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.09.09 16:53:00 - [24] Edited by: Bhaal on 09/09/2005 16:56:54 The price of Crude Oil directly affects the price at the pump. World daily oil production: 88 mill barrels US daily consumption: 22 mill barrels (25% consumption) EU daily consumption: 17.5 mill barrels (20% consumption) US population: 295 mill EU population: 457 mill US landmass: 3.5 mill SQ-MI EU landmass: 1.5 mill SQ-MI I could not find data on numbers of cars per person for the US and the EU. I'm willing to bet that the US has a higher number of cars/person, and also a number of miles traveled/day per person than the EU. Also, the US has quite an extensive highway infrastructure, and semi-trucks have replaced the train as the main method of ground shipments in the US. The US only has 65% of the population that the EU has, but has 57% more landmass. More cars/person, more land/person, more miles of highway/person, pretty much equates to more oil consumption per person. Public transportation in this country is more for those who cannot afford vehicles. Our lay of the land does not make it an efficient means of travel for the majority of the population. Americans consume about [27 barrels/person]/year. European Unioner's consume about [14 barrels/person]/year. It all started after WWII when the American Highway Infrastructure was started, and followed by the American dream of owning your own form of transportation. It's the way we live. Americans drive vehicles more often, and farther than probably anyone else on the planet. These are not excuses, simply facts. If all of you want to blame us Americans for all the problems go right ahead, but we will make strides to reduce our consumption, only to see China absolutely dwarf these numbers in the coming decades... The oil companies of the world, not just of the US have been hindering the advancement of technologies to reduce consumption of crude oil, blame them... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Xrak	Posted - 2005.09.09 17:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Nuclear Option Originally by: Xrak Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/09/2005 14:56:09 You also have to remember, there's a major difference between European countries and US/Canada. In Europe the mass transportation systems are much better and more available, so personal vehicles aren't used as much as in the US/Ca. Also gas is heavily taxed. In they US, we have to drive to get pretty much anywhere - work, school, etc. Gas is cheaper, but we use more of it. Using an example from my corp, my friends from England get to school (or anywhere really) by walking or taking the train/bus, even if they live off campus or across town. I live off campus and go to a local school, but I have to drive there and back four times a week, which is a 30 minute trip. Its impossible for me to get to school by walking or train/bus. If I want to go into town, I still have to drive there. Suburban sprawl makes the US waste a huge amount of gas. Just an observation. Id say the biggest problem in America is the amazing efficiency of the cars you drive. Sorry we don't drive eggs around. Could be because our government is a quasi-socialist nightmare where we tax everyone immensenly? Neither do we, but we dont drive tanks around either
Dirtball	Posted - 2005.09.09 17:33:00 - [26] people buy a nissan exterra cause they think it will make them an extreme mountain biker. --- I agree with everything Howard Dean says.

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Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.09.10 03:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Mad Ahab Wow... 8.32 USD a gallon. That's criminal. . Isn't there something being done about a price choke on petroleum there? I read a couple of articles in the Guardian but didn't see anything about such a proposal. Honestly I didn't realize how bad it was until I actually did the conversions. That can't be helping anyone out except the rich. Isn't it wonderful we all live in one big corporate gulag now? I've never been to Britain, how many people commute vs. using mass transit? Actually, petrol in the USA is criminally cheap. Thats why everybody drives big ass SUV's just to make a 1/2 mile trip to the shops. I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying how it is.
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2005.09.10 03:14:00 - [29] Well, that's what we get for voting in business tycoons... 100% sole interest in their business, which in the current case would be... Petroleum. They make fat pockets, the country and world goes broke.
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.09.10 08:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Spy4Hire Well, that's what we get for voting in business tycoons... 100% sole interest in their business, which in the current case would be... Petroleum. They make fat pockets, the country and world goes broke. What part of the request from my fellow moderator three posts above is so difficult to understand? No politics means no politics, period. Thread locked, comments to [email protected] please. forum rules \| [email protected]

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