CCP please can you put an IF statement in the high sec incursion spawn mechanism.

IF there is an incursion in high sec space, try the random number generator until one comes up that is NOT in Amarr space.


/me don's fireproof suit.

Random is random. Time to fix your standings.

Why you always want something new be4 old stuff gets fixed?

NCN walls (main issue) in assault systems, TPPH walls in HQ systems. Fix that first then you can talk about something new.

There is nothing wrong with Incursions in their current iteration, the TPPH and NCN walls are caused by fleets not competent at doing NCNGÇÖs leaving them up till there are no sites left to run except NCNGÇÖs. And fleets with low overall DPS avoid the TPPHGÇÖs as the time involved taking down the tower is to great to keep interest in the fleet and causes fleet attrition.

The MOM site is fine as well, only problem we seem to have is when a group decides to take it down without considering any other entities, of course this is EVE and if you canGÇÖt steal it, beat someone to it, or scam them out of it, then you just blow it up so nobody gets it.

Rumour control tells me that DIN took all the MOMGÇÖs down last night as a reprisal for being beaten to often in contested sites (Yes I know sounds like a petulant child) but itGÇÖs not the first time, ISN took one down a month ago when DIN did the same (Contesting Blob) to them, of course that time DIN was 105 vs. ISN 40 this time it was 40 on 40. So until we get a psych profile for every member in EVE and then set a restriction for mentalities below 10 Year olds, we will have to deal with the occasional petulant child and press on.

Take the day off, meet your family, I hear their nice, or go spend some of the ISK you have been stockpiling on a PVP ship and go get blown up, do something new and original, you can afford it and you might even like it.

All of this can be solved via slight mechanic changes on CCP's end.

When mom goes down, spawn a new incursion somewhere else immediately instead of at DT.

When a site goes down, spawn another one of the same type, not a NCN/TPPH. New NCN/TPPN only spawns if a previous NCN/TPPN goes down.

Don't blame the player, blame the game.

Will not gonna happen. EVE is serious business and no happy happy fluffy fluffy La-La-Land. Deal with it.

All of this can be solved via slight mechanic changes on CCP's end.

When mom goes down, spawn a new incursion somewhere else immediately instead of at DT.

When a site goes down, spawn another one of the same type, not a NCN/TPPH. New NCN/TPPN only spawns if a previous NCN/TPPN goes down.

Don't blame the player, blame the game.

I think your trolling but I am bored so IGÇÖll bite:

New instant spawn? Can you hear the inhale from the Explorers, it will followed by screams of GÇÿWhy DonGÇÖt Our Sites Re-spawn like Incursions WHAA WHAAGÇÖ

Random site spawns keep the fleets from running overly specialized fits, and forcing the change to different sites makes for a more, well rounded group, thereby rewarding the groups that can adapt.

1. DT spawns have already been replaced by nonDT spawns for exploration. And your "A must remain broken because B is broken" idea makes no sense, especially since B has already been fixed in a similar manner.

2. Groups have proven to be unwilling to adapt, and these that try aren't rewarded. That's the whole reason we have the problem in the first place. Tried and failed concept. Don't latch on to it. Abandon it.

2. Groups have proven to be unwilling to adapt, and these that try aren't rewarded. That's the whole reason we have the problem in the first place. Tried and failed concept. Don't latch on to it. Abandon it.

Concept of CCP is: The Universe is yours. Take it. My personally result of that: WORK AS INTENDED.

We fly all the sites without fail doing the fastest first and then the slow one last, fleets don't stop because the sites are too hard, fleets just don't stop at all till we run out of people to fly.

And if they re-spawned instantly the only reward we would get is a 20j trip every 6 hours when petulant child A decides to pull petulant child B's hair, instant re-spawn is rewarding **** poor behaviour.

And when dealing with this level of children, some child psychology is needed.

suggested changes on the mom sites in incursions:

- enhance the Duration: 60 Minutes
- required pilots Minimum: 150

with these little changes every mom site will lose the "drive-by-shoot-feeling" and only a few communities were able to end an incursion by killing the mom.

Problems solved.

Your solution is: If ppl just be nice we'll have world peace? Human nature is what it is, it won't change. The beauty is, game mechanics can be perfected to make a better game. It is still a game, remember?

When a site goes down, spawn another one of the same type, not a NCN/TPPH. New NCN/TPPN only spawns if a previous NCN/TPPN goes down.

The problem has nothing to do with the MOM site, it has to do with impulse control, when my kid would break her toy cause she was frustrated, I didn't get her a new tougher toy. I stopped letting her break the ones she had.

ISN and DIN proved how to take each other on another nonsense level and both parties have become exceedingly efficient at it. Were done with that. ISN based upon ultimate POWAAA and efficiency using others (tbh a genius but unfair idea) to increase their Payout and DIN based upon the Idea of welcome new and unexperienced Pilots to bring them into Incursions. Of course do we of DIN know that ISN hungers for more efficiency and more iskies, but that is not the way DIN wants to go. ISN showed often enough that they can bring up impressive enhancements to their tactics and strategies... but were out of this special Drama related to Contests and draw here the line to say enough is enough. Sorry that we once again took an ISN idea for our own purposes: No ISK for us - No ISK for anyone.

If this is what it takes to make Incursions work for you then all I am wondering is? How long do you plan on being able to support a community of Incursion pilots without Incursions?

The problem has nothing to do with the MOM site, it has to do with impulse control, when my kid would break her toy cause she was frustrated, I didn't get her a new tougher toy. I stopped letting her break the ones she had.

The people complaining about spawn time... and sites re spawning as soon as a mom pops... remember the mom drops expensive loot mostly a bpc of a pirate faction ship in highsec, bpc of a pirate faction cap ship in low/nul, ccp can not let these drop more often, it would be counter productive to maintaining a fair market system.

As far as kundalini sites showing up, in my opinion once the bar goes blue an approximately 24 hour timer counts down to the mom site spawn, and the mom site should be made very hard at the start with a degradation of the hardness based on either time or sites completed, after the mom site has been up for xx hours/days the mom begins her stand down, this would make the incursions last for a while longer without increasing the frequency of their spawn. possibly even making the spawn rate drop due to incursions lasting longer, which would benefit the market, as supply and demand would favor supply with less bpc's on the market. Also longer incursions mean more player owned ships popping, creating another demand that supply would benifit from with higher prices.

Just my 2 cents take it or leave it.

As far as kundalini sites showing up, in my opinion once the bar goes blue an approximately 24 hour timer counts down to the mom site spawn, and the mom site should be made very hard at the start with a degradation of the hardness based on either time or sites completed, after the mom site has been up for xx hours/days the mom begins her stand down, this would make the incursions last for a while longer without increasing the frequency of their spawn. possibly even making the spawn rate drop due to incursions lasting longer, which would benefit the market, as supply and demand would favor supply with less bpc's on the market. Also longer incursions mean more player owned ships popping, creating another demand that supply would benifit from with higher prices.

The crappy carrier (look it up, you'll wonder why ppl would fly that dung ship) don't drop in highsec. Pirate frig bpcs drop in highsec. And it's nowhere near the value of isk payouts, or LP isk sinks, btw.

Just to be more precise Sabre; Nightmares, Phantasm, Incursus, and Shadow Bomber BPC's drop in high sec.

Succubus. Sorry, couldn't hold myself back on this.