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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:35:00 -
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Every pc you can buy now can run eve even with only graphics onboard. However is that the best way to play eve perhaps not but you can run eve onl every machine. I think my old amd athlon 3000+ and 3gb ram with 8x agp Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 512MB can run it. That build was almost 7 years ago. So if that system can run eve online well i think every pc can run it. However i dont know if the support the old shader cards so. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Tribal Band
612
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:47:00 -
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I just upgraded from a core2 duo @ 2.2G + a 4650 gpu to this i5 & a 660ti
The stock cooler has been replaced and the only time I really hear anything is when I put a cd/dvd in the drive
it's a pretty sweet chip to use, im glad I bought it
eve with all its settings maxed is stunningly gorgeous ... up till now I couldn't fully realise that 
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Krrunch
Orbital Manufacturing Services
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:52:00 -
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Musashi Date wrote:You might be interested in reading this thread. The Wis Thread start. https://foruhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200503ms.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200503 Quote:Q:So is 30 the most you got to run on a single PC?
Well yes.. But that is only a dual core 1.6GHz with 8GB of Ram and a 2GB video card. If I use my main computer I can do more but I have my clients on there set for max graphics..
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2551141#post2551141 Quote:The biggest bottleneck for this many clients is the hard drive. so SSD really helps. Then Ram then CPU.
I use for the mining computers SSD drive as the only drive. 90GB refurbish cost me $45.00 and is enough room for windows 7 and eve. But if you are not going to use it for the main drive I would put the eve client and the profiles and the page file on it.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2551203#post2551203
If I recall correctly, a good rule of thumb is 1 client = 1GB of memory for it to be playable. So 4GB is more easy on the wallet or even 2GB can be possible if you're really cutting corners, for playing with your 2 clients. Processor-wise, a good dual core can perform well for EvE.. I'd point you to uncle Tom's site for stats and pricing. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-2.htmlSame site for grafx cards, you can even save on some 2nd-hand items if you look for em. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-2.htmlLast item, the HDD or SSD: the SLOWEST (SATA) SSD is still very fast compared to the fastest mechanical HDD in the market (those enterprise 16,000 RPM models). The idea is to buy a big 4TB HDD(lol, or any big drive to store your big files in) and a cheap 40~60GB SSD as an OS/games drive. Your Windows page file will benefit from the SSD and will translate to an overall better gaming experience. With my recommendations, you might get away with $450~600. I estimate your latest post to be in around $900~1,200. If you just wanna buy a rig for casual EvE gaming, you really don't need to break the bank for acceptable gameplay. Altho I must admit, with the current slower PC gaming hardware requirements in the past..7~5 years, your i5 and 8GB will probably last you another 5~8 years. I give my Core2-Duo, 4GB ram, and AMD 4670 another 1~3 years (bought in 2008)...
Actually after I posted last night I got to thinking maybe I went a little overboard and started doing a bit of research into what I was looking at buying. So I went back through newegg and the list of parts I had and started looking to see what I could save a little bit on here and there. Here is where I'm at now, and I know it'll be a little less powerful than what I linked earlier but after what I've been reading I'm confident that it will work for me without a problem.
i3-3220
GTX 650 (non ti)
8gb DDR3 1333
H61 motherboard
430w powersupply
500gb 7200 rpm hd
Now the only thing you have me questioning is the drive. I was looking at the SSD's because I heard they're so much faster, but I don't know much about them so I decided to stick to what I'm used to. Now I wouldn't be opposed to one, and I'd probably get one on the small end with my old hard drive(s) added in for additional space for other things. If you guys could recommend a SSD that could fit Windows, Eve, and maybe a few other things for close to the same price as that WD then I would be happy to get it. Also let me know if there is anything special you have to do with SSD's vs. a regular drive, because like I said, I don't know anything about them really.
Currently as this sits in my shopping cart I'm ready to buy it, I'm just waiting for my vacation pay to come in. Part of the reason I went back and went a little cheaper on the PC itself is because I decided I want to buy dual monitors for this as well. I probably wont go with anything huge, probably just two 20" or so. I can't wait to run both clients on their own screen, that will be convenient as hell lol. |
Lucian Cosades
Vox Pantheon
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:36:00 -
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Disclaimer - I did not read any replies, but they looked scary scrolling past my screen.
TL;DR
http://www.build-gaming-computers.com/
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/
I deleted my entire post waxing nostalgic, so TL;DR is all you get. You're welcome. |
Akiyo Mayaki
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:47:00 -
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No such thing as a computer that can't run EVE.
No |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:13:00 -
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APU's for limited applications, sure....gaming.....I'm not sold on them.
HTFU!...for the children! |
Musashi Date
25TH miss
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:22:00 -
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Price-wise that ~$60 HDD is something like a 32GB SSD only (if you add $5~10 more you get to the range of 64GB ones). As usual, do a gugels search for items by searching "model type problems" eg. ADATA Premier Pro SP900 problems, read the rave reviews later. If it doesn't have glaring problems and units are performing well enough you will get links about petty problems..
A Win7 directory + EvE installation is.. 20GB + 14GB = 34.. say 40GB but thats too close so a 64GB model is just right.
ADATA XPG SX900 64GB $69.99 (no stocks, bleh)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269-2.html
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211601
SSDs are all about the controllers, and these ADATA SSDs are based off the 2nd gen SandForce controllers, ADATA just tweaks around the firmware to give better speed or a slightly larger storage capacity. ADATA's SX900 controller is a bit faster than the SP900, but the latter has been a 'recommended buy' in one of their reviews in January.
edit: no special things for SSD, same SATA power/data cable, same screws and stuff.. |
Posta Wifda Mosta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:23:00 -
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I would pass on that PC, remember you get what you pay for.
If you get something like this http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT70-0ND.html you can run like 14 clients on max graphics, the benefit to this is you get yo lose 14 ships at one! |
Krrunch
Orbital Manufacturing Services
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:32:00 -
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Musashi Date wrote:Price-wise that ~$60 HDD is something like a 32GB SSD only (if you add $5~10 more you get to the range of 64GB ones). As usual, do a gugels search for items by searching " model type problems" eg. ADATA Premier Pro SP900 problems, read the rave reviews later. If it doesn't have glaring problems and units are performing well enough you will get links about petty problems.. A Win7 directory + EvE installation is.. 20GB + 14GB = 34.. say 40GB but thats too close so a 64GB model is just right. ADATA XPG SX900 64GB $69.99 (no stocks, bleh) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269-2.htmlADATA Premier Pro SP900 $64.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211601SSDs are all about the controllers, and these ADATA SSDs are based off the 2nd gen SandForce controllers, ADATA just tweaks around the firmware to give better speed or a slightly larger storage capacity. ADATA's SX900 controller is a bit faster than the SP900, but the latter has been a 'recommended buy' in one of their reviews in January. edit: no special things for SSD, same SATA power/data cable, same screws and stuff.. edit2: o wait, that H61 doesn't support SATA3 if you're buying into that 6GB/s stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets
I'll trust you that that's a decent SSD, and I've added it to my cart. I agree that the bump from 32gb to 64gb is worthwhile, I didn't think 32gb would work out well for the application I had intended.
Should I change to a motherboard that supports SATA3 to take full advantage of the speed increase of the SSD? I would think I could find one for a reasonable increase in price. |
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