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Data Prime
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:46:00 -
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I know the Raven is traditionally a shield tanker, but before the "Cold War" patch I had an armour tank setup that worked well for L3 agent kill missions.After I lost my raven in 0.0 I switched to an apoc,but that lacks firepower when tackling BS's on missions so I'm planning to run an apoc and a raven and switch between the 2 to suit the mission. What I could do with is some helpful comments about which raven setup suits L4 missions in the current game. And if it's armour tank I could do with some setup tips as I can't remember the setup I had and am having probs with insufficient power core.
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.09.11 18:35:00 -
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well its hard to armor tank it well but its wery duable.
I saw a setup the other day that included 2x corpum a type medium reppers and 3 hards.
1 of those boosts same hp/sec as a large t1 repper but for 40% of cap  that leaves up space in meds for something better than cap rechargers.
But if u want to do lvl4's i suggest 5 pdus and 6 siege 2 heavy nos and xl sb 1 amp and 4 racial hards. Use drones for frigs.
But u can have 2x large reppers and cruise missile launchers.
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Decairn
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Posted - 2005.09.11 20:31:00 -
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2 named/t2 armor reps, 2 or 3 hardeners, 1 PDU/RCU t2 if using 2 hardeners
6 x cap recharger in mids
3/4 torps, 3/2 cruise, 2 x 125mm railguns
med or heavy drones for frigate work
If you can fit a RCU t2 then you can get a 4th torp on it.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.09.11 22:42:00 -
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My dream set up for a raven.
6 t2 crusie missle launchers,2 T2 125MM
2 t2 target painters,1 sensor booster 2,3 cap recharger 2s
2 T2 Vestements,t2 energised adaptive nano,1 named thermal hardener,rcu 2
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2005.09.12 02:38:00 -
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I armor tank my Raven with a named 1600 plate and a T2 Large rep. But my consideration for this is because I face mostly laser loving rats, and shields don't hold up well against these and neither does PDUs give you enough recharge. That and I need my midslots for signal boosters and target painters.
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Slithereen
I armor tank my Raven with a named 1600 plate and a T2 Large rep. But my consideration for this is because I face mostly laser loving rats, and shields don't hold up well against these and neither does PDUs give you enough recharge. That and I need my midslots for signal boosters and target painters.
ive taken down sansha officer spawns solo in my pdu raven
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:18:00 -
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6 cruise
6 cap 2s
2x large t2, 3 hardners
just turn on the tank and let it run forever :/
*may need advanced weapons upgrades up quite high to make it fit*
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:40:00 -
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Shield tanking a raven is no where near as effective as Armour tanking one. I have max skills for shield tanking btw.
2 x Med tech 2 reps (I use Corpum Meds)
3 Named hardeners
6 Tech 2 Cap rechargers
AB
Web
6 Tech 2 Siege
Energy Transfer and Remote Rep
6 Drones
Basic Tech 2 stuff cannot even touch this setup because of the STUPID STUPID STUPID nerf on the CPR.
Shield tanking is null and void.
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Spurgo
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:49:00 -
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I never tried a armour tank Raven but i have a shield tank one and:
I can easily kill a spawn with 2 ARCH ANGEL WARLORDS 3ARCH ANGELS LEGIONAIRES.
I can do this with:
3 PDU
2BALLISTICs
3 NAMED RESIST
1 LARGE SHIELD BOOSTER II
1 BOOSTER AMPLIFIER
1 SENSOR BOOSTER (if u wonna tank more put a large shield extender II)
6 Cruise launchers
2 Named Smarts
8 Drones (4 med 4 heavy)
I can hold the tank for few minutes, untill i exaust the capacito...but this never happens, they will be all dead in notime!
p.s.
With this setup u have to activate the booster only when u reached 30% of your shield level, and this happes rarely.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Shield tanking a raven is no where near as effective as Armour tanking one. I have max skills for shield tanking btw.
2 x Med tech 2 reps (I use Corpum Meds)
3 Named hardeners
6 Tech 2 Cap rechargers
AB
Web
6 Tech 2 Siege
Energy Transfer and Remote Rep
6 Drones
Basic Tech 2 stuff cannot even touch this setup because of the STUPID STUPID STUPID nerf on the CPR.
Shield tanking is null and void.
Wtb Raven with 8 med 
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Amarr knight
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Shield tanking a raven is no where near as effective as Armour tanking one. I have max skills for shield tanking btw.
2 x Med tech 2 reps (I use Corpum Meds)
3 Named hardeners
6 Tech 2 Cap rechargers
AB
Web
6 Tech 2 Siege
Energy Transfer and Remote Rep
6 Drones
Basic Tech 2 stuff cannot even touch this setup because of the STUPID STUPID STUPID nerf on the CPR.
Shield tanking is null and void.
Wtb Raven with 8 med
I think he mixed up scorp with raven.
Anyway, if u are using raven for npcing 1 thing u can consider is the natural resistence. Like when i fought amarr npcs (em/thermal dmg) I found armor tanking more helpful then shield tanking as armor has 60% em res. So i only fit 1 thermal hardner and i was ready to go.
Another thing to consider is your skill. Which can u do better armor tanking or shield tanking. Just because 1 works better doesnt mean if u have bad skill in that it will be still good for you.
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Phony v2
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:41:00 -
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no
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Data Prime
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:49:00 -
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thanks for the suggestions/comments guys. I guess armour tank prob works best when u can't run and just have to soak up punishment and shield tank any other time (or is that too simplified?). Going to try out the various suggestions and see how I get on, there certainly are some variations possible. Happy Hunting & Stay Alive.
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Nerogk Shorn
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:24:00 -
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Yeah i personally think that this could be a very good idea, but presently i don't have the skills for it. Right now i use an XlargeII sheild booster 2 amps 2 em and 1 thermal Hardeners. But for level 4 amarr missions, shield tanking is definetly a lot harder, especially bigger missions like Vengeance (bloods). I also think armor tanking could be advantageous in 2 more ways.
1. If you have an armor tank, put some EW in mid (duh)
2. Since everyone expects a raven to shield tank, and they get through your shield with no problem they will think you will be a push over. Very tricky = D
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Data Prime
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:49:00 -
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I am training up another char to act as support for me, with energy transfer, sditional shield and remote rep. that will help if I can avoid getting him killed. my setup is only for npc btw as I don't see myself ever being up to pvp btw. But in the meantime it looks as if L4 missions will seriously tax any shield tank setup
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Gian Bal
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Posted - 2005.09.13 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Morkoth
well its hard to armor tank it well but its wery duable.
I saw a setup the other day that included 2x corpum a type medium reppers and 3 hards.
1 of those boosts same hp/sec as a large t1 repper but for 40% of cap that leaves up space in meds for something better than cap rechargers.
But if u want to do lvl4's i suggest 5 pdus and 6 siege 2 heavy nos and xl sb 1 amp and 4 racial hards. Use drones for frigs.
But u can have 2x large reppers and cruise missile launchers.
nothing is more wasted than 3(or even more) hardeners on a tanked raven. just 2 and 1 or 2 ( with really good cap and shieldskills) amps are ways better to raise your tanking/s. most peeps just can't do maths :(
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Crimson Djinn
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Posted - 2005.09.13 00:44:00 -
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If you want good damage, you have to stuff your low slots full of ballistics. And to be able to tank effectively with low slots full of ballistics, you need one of em expensive shield boosters that eat little cap for a nice boost.
Easy! \o/
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Arcadia1701E
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Posted - 2005.09.13 16:40:00 -
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6 cruise, Smart bomb (carefull now) NOS or w/e
Xlarge SHeild booster 2, TWO yes 2 boost amps, 1 of each hardener
1 BCU, 4 PDU 2s
i use this, and find it extremly usefull
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Djinn
If you want good damage, you have to stuff your low slots full of ballistics.
An afterburner will increase your damage more than any ballistic mod 
That's the nature of missiles, the faster you move towards your target, the more damage you deal because damage stacks faster, overcoming your oponnent's tank.
This only holds true against battleships, of course, where tanking comes into play.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:51:00 -
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Meant 4 Cap Chargers. Ooops 
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Data Prime
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:02:00 -
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thx for the suggestions still rolling in. quite a few different approaches, but the one I never thought of was using ab to charge TOWARDS BS to increase damage. I'm used to shooting whilst running away so that's quite a shock to my brain :)magic
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Data Prime
thx for the suggestions still rolling in. quite a few different approaches, but the one I never thought of was using ab to charge TOWARDS BS to increase damage. I'm used to shooting whilst running away so that's quite a shock to my brain :)magic
charge towards a bs while launching missiles, maintaining roughly the same speed as the missile. really really REALLY efficient when you want to slug out 24 torps at the same time onto someone.
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