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Cyberstrike2027	Posted - 2005.09.11 23:50:00 - [1] Just an idea to make dread's threatening on more than the "vs. station" kinda battles. Add an extra set of turret hardpoints. So, a dread, in addition to it's current XL turrets, can fit 8 L turrets found on normal bs's. So, it has 3 Xhigh power slots or XL turret hardpoints, and 8 high power slots/regular turret hardpoints (can fit small/medium/large turrets like they work on regular ships) Now, to balance it out, the dread must be stationary to fire the XL guns. This makes logical sense, as the large turrets can take out most mobile targets as well as anything else (they're BS sized turrets for flip sake) and the things that u wud be enagaging with the XL turrets wud be stationary anyway (usually), like an outpost or etc. So imagine it, a fleet on fleet battle, 1 fleet is losing, so it opens a worm hole, and a dread comes storming through, engaging 8 battleships at once. Then it slows to "hold position" and deploys it's XL guns and finishes off the enemy fleet. Instead of, a dread comes storming through, and engages 3 battleships...albeit with XL turrets, but it's still only 3 :/ Just an idea oh...and give the Moros a launcher hardpoint if nothing else
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.09.12 07:24:00 - [2] Eh, why? The entire point of a dread is station combat :\| [23]
Cyberstrike2027	Posted - 2005.09.12 11:56:00 - [3] well, they're meant to be the pinnicle of ur races technological + military might....until titans arrive
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.09.12 11:56:00 - [4] Originally by: Discorporation Eh, why? The entire point of a dread is station combat :\| No disco you tard!!111 We are supposed to gate snipe in PF-346 with our dreads. Can't wait for all the whining about T2 BS not being uber like HAC's. That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure.
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.09.12 11:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Cyberstrike2027 well, they're meant to be the pinnicle of ur races technological + military might....until titans arrive They are. At taking out fixed defences. They are siege weapons. That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure.
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.09.12 12:13:00 - [6] Originally by: theRaptor No disco you tard!!111 We are supposed to gate snipe in PF-346 with our dreads. Can't wait for all the whining about T2 BS not being uber like HAC's. They'll ahve HAC resists, prolly. just not HAC gun bonusses (although HellGremlin warmed me to the idea of a 7 Tach 4xgun bonus HAC-resist Armageddon..) [23]
ManOfHonor	Posted - 2005.09.12 19:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Cyberstrike2027 well, they're meant to be the pinnicle of ur races technological + military might....until titans arrive in combat dread > titan _____________________________ NPC Asteroid Belt Bases Honor Above Self Glory For Self Strength Of Self
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.09.12 21:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Cyberstrike2027 well, they're meant to be the pinnicle of ur races technological + military might....until titans arrive Oh, youse is gonna be disapointed come Kali. Titans are NOT combat ships. They are logistics ships. And Dreads are only vs stations, otherwise we'd, as someone already mentioned, get them sniping from 300km out from gates. _________ In war there is only relentless and pointless quotes about war such as this one
Cyberstrike2027	Posted - 2005.09.12 21:37:00 - [9] OK OK, i see ur point. I'm still getting 1 and a Titan, coz if the Soltueur stats on eve-i.com are anything to go by, even if they're not designed 4 combat, they wud sure as hell pwn @ it 8M armour -.- I mean really....
Cyberstrike2027	Posted - 2005.09.12 21:37:00 - [10] PS, love ur sig nero
Dr Happy	Posted - 2005.09.13 00:01:00 - [11] allow dread to fit mining lasers!!!! you know you wanna see it
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.09.13 01:29:00 - [12] Originally by: Cyberstrike2027 OK OK, i see ur point. I'm still getting 1 and a Titan, coz if the Soltueur stats on eve-i.com are anything to go by, even if they're not designed 4 combat, they wud sure as hell pwn @ it 8M armour -.- I mean really.... The stats on eve-i are placeholders. They won't have 8 million armor. Dreads don't even have that, and they have to assault POS. mutter Unfortunately... _________ In war there is only relentless and pointless quotes about war such as this one
Arcadia1701E	Posted - 2005.09.13 16:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Nero Scuro Originally by: Cyberstrike2027 OK OK, i see ur point. I'm still getting 1 and a Titan, coz if the Soltueur stats on eve-i.com are anything to go by, even if they're not designed 4 combat, they wud sure as hell pwn @ it 8M armour -.- I mean really.... The stats on eve-i are placeholders. They won't have 8 million armor. Dreads don't even have that, and they have to assault POS. mutter Unfortunately... The 8 mill armor is the GM Titan only, our one will have a slightly more realistic value
ManOfHonor	Posted - 2005.09.13 23:22:00 - [14] Originally by: Arcadia1701E Originally by: Nero Scuro Originally by: Cyberstrike2027 OK OK, i see ur point. I'm still getting 1 and a Titan, coz if the Soltueur stats on eve-i.com are anything to go by, even if they're not designed 4 combat, they wud sure as hell pwn @ it 8M armour -.- I mean really.... The stats on eve-i are placeholders. They won't have 8 million armor. Dreads don't even have that, and they have to assault POS. mutter Unfortunately... The 8 mill armor is the GM Titan only, our one will have a slightly more realistic value GMs get the good stuff..... _____________________________ NPC Asteroid Belt Bases Honor Above Self Glory For Self Strength Of Self
Cyberstrike2027	Posted - 2005.09.13 23:27:00 - [15] gimme!!
Lord Aradon	Posted - 2005.09.14 10:52:00 - [16] Originally by: theRaptor Originally by: Discorporation Eh, why? The entire point of a dread is station combat :\| No disco you tard!!111 We are supposed to gate snipe in PF-346 with our dreads. Can't wait for all the whining about T2 BS not being uber like HAC's. Well don't forget that the HAC's role is anti BS, so why should T2 BS's be ·ber in comparison to a HAC? they should be ·ber in comparison to the T1's end of. ---- Join Us Free Websites
Falzone	Posted - 2005.09.14 17:18:00 - [17] Dreads right now nerfed as they are aern't even that good at station combat. Main problem is strontium fuel usage for siege mode with base skills you can only carry enough fuel to use the seige module for about 50 min thats 5 siege module activations. Another problem is that once they run out of fuel and drop back to normal mode the pos can begin warp scrambling it again then you can't get out. Resupplying the dread at a pos with an indy and the indy will just get popped in a few secs. I agree dreads need more turrets as well and more hitpoints. Even though a dreads main purpose is to destroy a pos it really can't even do that the way seige mode is setup and the damage they do is pretty weak for a ship that costs so much. You can buy large pos and equip for 200 mil and have enough firepower to take down a couple dreads but for 3 bil you need a lot of other dreads to have a chance at taking down a pos. A pos inn reinforced mode uses 200 strontium an hour and it has 50000 cargo hold a dread in siege mode uses 500 strontium every 10 minutes and cargo hold only 7250. Dreads are heavily nerfed now too much even they need to be much more powerful for their cost and time of training all the skills.
Cyberstrike2027	Posted - 2005.09.15 23:40:00 - [18] yup....my skillz will b ready min jan -.-
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.09.16 03:56:00 - [19] Originally by: Lord Aradon Originally by: theRaptor Originally by: Discorporation Eh, why? The entire point of a dread is station combat :\| No disco you tard!!111 We are supposed to gate snipe in PF-346 with our dreads. Can't wait for all the whining about T2 BS not being uber like HAC's. Well don't forget that the HAC's role is anti BS, so why should T2 BS's be ·ber in comparison to a HAC? they should be ·ber in comparison to the T1's end of. People want them to be scaled up HAC's basically. Which would make them better then dreads due to the insane resists and damage bonuses. CCP have stated this won't happen and that they will be specialised in other ones. The Zealot is bad ass, a T2 Geddon assault BS would be insane (game breakingly so). But people will whine when CCP doesn't make them like that. That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- Ancient "Dirt" Religious figure.
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.09.16 07:41:00 - [20] They would be fine with HAC resists . Too many gun bonusses could result in ubergankage, so perhaps that's not such a good idea. [23]

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