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        |  Remy Duchateau
 The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.07 21:37:00 -
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 Hello lads and lasses,
 
 As being new to the whole thing of FW I was wondering if any of the veterans could give some good advice, perhaps some tricks or two for FW.
 All sort of advice would be helpful.
 Currenty I'm already having a blast at FW, enjoying every part of it really, but I think I'm missing some neat tricks and tips necessary to become a better FW player.
 
 
 PS: Caldari Hypercapitalism rocks!
  
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        |  Zarnak Wulf
 In Exile.
 Imperial Outlaws.
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.07 22:21:00 -
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 You either have an off grid booster or you are being harvested by someone who does.
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        |  Whisperen
 Handsome Millionaire Playboys
 RISE of LEGION
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.07 23:05:00 -
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 Learn to identify the guns/launchers on your targets this will help you work out their engagement range.
 
 Look how fast your prey can accelerate to get a idea of the plate size and possible honeycombing skill level and your lock time can give you a indication of how they are shield tanked.
 
 Time your Mwd pulses so they do not coincide with enemy missile impacts sig drops instantly speed dos not.
 
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        |  ShahFluffers
 Ice Fire Warriors
 Late Night Alliance
 
 2169
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.07 23:44:00 -
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 Standard copy-pasting.
 
 
 I wrote:1. SET UP YOUR OVERVIEW!! Make it so that "friendlies" do not show up not matter what their status is (helps prevent friendly fire incidents and reduces clutter) and especially make sure that militia status supersedes outlaw/GCCsuspect status (quite a few militia members have low security status, making them "blinky," and attacking them will incur a large penalty on your standings with the militia... and will often result in your swift termination at the hands of these friendlies).
 2. Buy ships and mods in bulk and have PvP ships of ALL types (ex, shield-fit, armor-fit, DPS/gank-fit, nano-fit, etc) prefit in an easy to access station (preferably a low-sec one that many other militia members use).
 
 3. You will lose A LOT of ships in militia. Have a steady source of income to replace stuff.
 
 4. Do NOT give away friendly fleet locations and/or friendly ship types in Militia Chat. The enemy has many spaiz!!!
 
 5. Learn the area well. This will help you when you are looking for stuff to kill or escape from hostiles.
 
 6. When looking for a fleet, type "X" into militia chat and eventually you will get picked up.
 
 6i. Alternatively, go out and roam a bit. If you stumble upon a friendly fleet, they might pick you up. If not, keep looking (and try killing some stuff while you're at it).
 
 7. Once you join a fleet, join audio (be it the in-game EvE audio, Ventrilo, Teamspeak, Mumble, Jabber, etc) and LISTEN.
 
 7i. LISTEN SOME MORE.
 
 7ii. ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE LISTENING????
 
 7iii. If you cannot figure out where the fleet is by listening, ask [politely] by typing in fleet.
 
 8. The FC (fleet commander) is GOD himself and his orders should be followed to the letter (ex. even if you're in a frigate, SHOOT THE GODDAMN "PRIMARY" that has been called). He and his scouts should be the only ones talking. Do NOT talk unless spoken to.
 
 9. Get to know the "regulars" within your timezone. Good things will follow if you make friends with them.
 
 10. Listen to everyone's advice... no matter how abrasive it is. Chances are, they know what they are doing and you don't
 
 And most importantly... have fun.
 Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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        |  Muad 'dib
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 Amarrian Commandos
 
 826
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.08 09:32:00 -
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 Dont stay for too long in FW.
 
 While it looks like a career, ccp wants you to leave it once you can pvp and pve - stay in it and you will go mad, lose standings get ganked by friendly's and lastly start to think justin beiber is actually tallented.
 http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
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        |  Meditril
 T.R.I.A.D
 
 249
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.08 13:37:00 -
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 Muad 'dib wrote:Dont stay for too long in FW. 
 But where else should you go as occasional player?
 
 
  WH? Gets boring over time and works best if you can play at known time frames every day.
 0.0? This is boring as hell! And again if you are not 24/7 player you can't do much there. Not the mention the politics which can puzzle everything.
 High-Sec? Nice for a holiday trip...
 
 In fact FW is the best you can get if you are an occasional player interested in PVP and earing some ISK needed to fund your PVP on the fly. But yes, sometimes it FW can drive you mad :-)
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        |  Major Killz
 
 163
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.08 14:08:00 -
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 Meditril wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Dont stay for too long in FW. But where else should you go as occasional player? 
  WH? Gets boring over time and works best if you can play at known time frames every day.
 0.0? This is boring as hell! And again if you are not 24/7 player you can't do much there. Not the mention the politics which can puzzle everything.
 High-Sec? Nice for a holiday trip...
 In fact FW is the best you can get if you are an occasional player interested in PVP and earing some ISK needed to fund your PVP on the fly. But yes, sometimes it FW can drive you mad :-) 
 Null is not boring. Pilots choose low security space over no security space because of convenience and security. Many pilots are affraid to do anything there alone without a large fleet because of a boogeyman fear of large fleets = /
 
 You can in fact roam threw 50 systems in no security space and find no one at all.
 
 There is solo null and there is small scale fleet warfare too. While there are large scale engagements. More so than there is in low or high security space. They are rare for most alliances. Like for bad ones that are not really good they happen once or twice a week. There fleets are so rare that when they happen everyone who is bored piles into one and a blob is formed v0v
 
 If you want a chance at experiencing large scale battles alot more you can go to null and almost guarantee it. Most of what you'll find though is small scale fleets of 2 - 14 and maybe 20. There is alot of things to gank solo too.
 
 So no! It is not boring if you are good pilot or a competent commander. For all the sheep they tend not to stray to far without a fleet. Same can be said about factional warfare tbh. Mind you. Im affraid of wormhole space and being trapped without a scan probe or any way to navigate sh!t. So, I tend not to go there. However, if I put enough time and efffort into WH i think i could surivive there. I prefer null and low sec because it is easier and more convenient.
 
 To the new guy. Like anything in this game. I suggest you roam around and figure it out on your own and make friends and have fun. best way. Take what other players say with a grain of salt and steer away from drama and politics and high principles (unless you want to be leader).
 
 
 - killz
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        |  Liam Inkuras
 Chaotic Tranquility
 Casoff
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.08 15:43:00 -
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 Killz you're alive?
 
 OP, all that has been stated above is sound advice (except the one saying to gtfo before too long), especially the words stated above me. I'm super glad to hear you are enjoying FW, it is where I learned a lot and I miss it dearly. Fluffers covered the jist of the important stuff, but I'm here to ramble on about the little things.
 
 N+Śmero UNO: Do not get caught up and obsessed with kill board stats or isk efficiency. That drags many people down and keeps them from having fun in ships that would "ruin" their KB if they were to lose it. Just fly what you want and get blown up.
 
 2: Have ships in multiple stations within a few jumps of your corp's HQ. This way, if you are out in a fight 4 jumps away from HQ shooing away some plexers, you can dock up and reship immediately instead of having to travel 4 jumps home and then 4 jumps back.
 
 3: Not too crucial, but still important. Slot yourself some time each day you're on that you will offensive/defensive plex to make some LP and ISK. Sometimes you will get too caught up with blowing stuff up that your resources will run thin, and you will be forced to find another way to (briefly) make income. Just run a few plexes a day and you'll be kept in frigs and Dessie's for a while.
 
 4. Use that LP for more than isk making. Look at all those implants/ammo/ships in the LP store! Instead of selling them, you can use them yourself and save a load of time and money.
 
 5: Keep having fun. When it gets boring, leave.
 
 6: While many people are averse to this and suggest flying mostly with fleets, I encourage the opposite. Try solo sometime. You may love it. I love the thrill of hunting down a target in a plex and chasing him around system to end with either of us going down in a glorious ball of flames. Nothing gets your heart racing more than a solo kill.
 
 7: I feel like I'm just rambling now and have strayed from your original topic, and I'm just typing what comes to mind. I'm gonna keep this up and see what I end up with
 
 8: I just had a brainfart and am out of things to say.
 
 Enjoy!
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        |  Ginger Barbarella
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
 1238
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.08 16:03:00 -
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 1. Best tip: buy an alt for OGB; put him in a Loki or Tengu, fit for minimum scan siggy. In combat, have him sitting at a safe somewhere, watching dscan for probes. Cloak as needed.
 2. If plexing, light up ALL plexes in all surrounding systems, regardless of whether you plan to run them or not. Yeah, it pisses people off.
  3. Use a cloaky alt (maybe same as OGB noted above) to sit off the plex gate; if someone warps to your plex, bail to a safe, reposition cloaky at another plex, and head to that plex. Be sure cloaky alt scans for ships inside the plex.
 
 
 If you're going to exploit FW, do it like everyone else that's complaining on the forums but doing himself in-game.
 "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
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        |  Muad 'dib
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 Amarrian Commandos
 
 826
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.08 16:05:00 -
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 Liam Inkuras wrote:2: Have ships in multiple stations within a few jumps of your corp's HQ. This way, if you are out in a fight 4 jumps away from HQ shooing away some plexers, you can dock up and reship immediately instead of having to travel 4 jumps home and then 4 jumps back.
 
 
 i remeber doing this back early last year and it really helped the fight availability.
 
 shame im amarr and this hasnt been an option for a year.
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        |  Ginger Barbarella
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
 1238
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.08 16:05:00 -
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 Muad 'dib wrote:Dont stay for too long in FW.
 While it looks like a career, ccp wants you to leave it once you can pvp and pve - stay in it and you will go mad, lose standings get ganked by friendly's and lastly start to think justin beiber is actually tallented.
 
 Anyone that isn't tone death can clearly hear Beiber is a talentless hack, along the lines of Britney Spears and today's other fail artists. I look forward to the day when the little punk-a$$ed b!tch gets pounded by mouthing off to the wrong person.
  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
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        |  SeaSaw
 Tribal Liberation Force
 Minmatar Republic
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.09 02:10:00 -
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 Good Sir;
 
 You need a loki if you are going to "solo", There is no solo in FW--just solo victims.
 
 your humble servent
 SeaSaw
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        |  Terhiss
 Moira.
 Villore Accords
 
 15
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.09 03:47:00 -
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 SeaSaw wrote:Good Sir;
 You need a loki if you are going to "solo", There is no solo in FW--just solo victims.
 
 SeaSaw
 
 Once again when I read something like this, I have to appear and make my statement: solo pvp is alive and healthy in Lowsec.
 
 I'm not a hardcore player, I dont have the time needed to get 1 thousand kills per month, so I also incurr in many losses. But most of my activity is solo. Here is some testimony. No off-grid boosters, no alts, no multiple accounts, just trial and error.
 
 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19258743
 
 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19282163
 
 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19258712
 
 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19177080
 
 The key to solo in Eve is: know to pick your targets, which implies knowing the ships; know the game mechanics such as criminal/suspect flagging/gate guns/ times and tickers etc.
 And I might add solo roaming is some of the best fun you can have in this game.
 
 T.
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        |  IbanezLaney
 The Church of Awesome
 Caldari State Capturing
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.09 03:54:00 -
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 Muad 'dib wrote:... and lastly start to think justin beiber is actually tallented. 
 
 That's the scariest thing I have ever read.
 
 If it ever happens - please kill me.
 
 
 
 Fix this **** See Sea Pea.
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        |  Perkin Warbeck
 Amarrian Space Poodles
 24eme Legion Etrangere
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.09 08:30:00 -
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 Partying like it's 3012.
 
 Do what Liam says and never forget it's just a game.
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        |  Froggy Storm
 Paxton Industries
 Gentlemen's Agreement
 
 21
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.09 09:01:00 -
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 Also for anyone setting out for any PvP play, the faster you can break the mindset of isk has value the sooner you will enjoy fights. It took me a long time and a lol fit travel legion to finally stop getting the ache in the gut when my pixels exploded. Isk isn't real. RMT aside of course. A couple hours of missions a week will pay for your blown up frigs all month long. So throw them away spectacularly. Explosions are beautiful and need to happen more often.
 
 All that being said try to avoid the idea that bigger is better. Flying the larger ship before you are ready just makes the wrecks cost more. I'd much rather have an excellent frig pilot with me than a low skill fit anything on its maiden flight.
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        |  SeaSaw
 Tribal Liberation Force
 Minmatar Republic
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.09 13:41:00 -
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 Terhiss wrote:The key to solo in Eve is: know to pick your targets, which implies knowing the ships; know the game mechanics such as criminal/suspect flagging/gate guns/ times and tickers etc.
 And I might add solo roaming is some of the best fun you can have in this game.
 
 T.
 
 Okay, but it is much easier just to get an alt account and train up a loki like everybody else.
 Why start out at a big dissadvantage? The op is asking for tips--your tip is "run away from most fights" because they have a loki and you don't.
 
 You can't beat an OGB hookbill in a novice plex pure solo. Plain and simple.
 
 your humble servent
 SeaSaw
 
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        |  Ginger Barbarella
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
 1239
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.09 13:50:00 -
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 SeaSaw wrote:Good Sir;
 You need a loki if you are going to "solo", There is no solo in FW--just solo victims.
 
 your humble servent
 SeaSaw
 
 Said the awox'er...
 "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
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        |  Dan Carter Murray
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.10 03:34:00 -
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 Remy Duchateau wrote:Hello lads and lasses, As being new to the whole thing of FW I was wondering if any of the veterans could give some good advice, perhaps some tricks or two for FW. All sort of advice would be helpful. Currenty I'm already having a blast at FW, enjoying every part of it really, but I think I'm missing some neat tricks and tips necessary to become a better FW player. PS: Caldari Hypercapitalism rocks!   
 start small with frigates and destroyers.
 
 get to know your warzone.
 
 slowly move up ship hulls whether it's faction frigates or t2 frigates.
 
 move up to cruisers once you feel absolutely comfortable with the strengths and weaknesses of frigates and destroyers.
 
 stick to frigs, destroyers, and cruisers for a while because there aren't many plexes where BCs and BSs can fight for the time being.
 IF YOU DON'T FLY AMARR THEN YOU DON'T LIKE A CHALLENGE SO GET ******
 
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        |  Remy Duchateau
 The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
 Southern Renegades
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.10 14:44:00 -
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 Hahaha, thanks for all the responses guys! A lot has already sipped into my mind really. Losing ships for fun is easily done since I've been in RvB before and now I'm also playing Dwarf Fortress (where the motto is; Losing is fun!).
 Also I like to switch between solo/ 2-men and fleets. Most of the time I enjoy being in the small gangs really. Bragging, joking around and in general a lot of fun.
 
 Anyway I'll guess I'll stay for a long while in FW, currently with TheKiller122 corporation and his fleets are the best if you ask me.
 Furthermore there's no fear I will love JustinBieber
  I'm an avid rock and metal fan so  
 
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        |  Shintoko Akahoshi
 Kabuki TransSolar
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.10 23:57:00 -
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 Terhiss wrote:The key to solo in Eve is: know to pick your targets 
 This. Just this. Solo PVP has always been about picking your targets. Know what sort of ships/tactics you can take, and which ones you can't. Don't get goaded into fights you know you can't win. Fight on your own terms, not on your target's.
 
 Bio and writing
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        |  Ginger Barbarella
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
 1241
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.11 02:03:00 -
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 Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:Terhiss wrote:The key to solo in Eve is: know to pick your targets This. Just this. 
 
 Learn to pick your fights. But don't run. *confused look*
 
 You guys should get together on your boolsh!te and decide what you want to say.
 "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
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        |  Terhiss
 Moira.
 Villore Accords
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.11 07:11:00 -
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 SeaSaw wrote:
 You can't beat an OGB hookbill in a novice plex pure solo. Plain and simple.
 
 your humble servent
 SeaSaw
 
 
 i can beat a hawk in an incursus though http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16636546
 
 as for the Ogb hookbill, i can beat it outside the novice http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14636691
 
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        |  Flyinghotpocket
 Amarrian Vengeance
 24eme Legion Etrangere
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.15 18:09:00 -
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 Remy Duchateau wrote:Hello lads and lasses, As being new to the whole thing of FW I was wondering if any of the veterans could give some good advice, perhaps some tricks or two for FW. All sort of advice would be helpful. Currenty I'm already having a blast at FW, enjoying every part of it really, but I think I'm missing some neat tricks and tips necessary to become a better FW player. PS: Caldari Hypercapitalism rocks!   Get a booster alt (loki most sucsessful) or 2 or 3 even.
 assume every1 is going to either
 A. warp out cuz they are stabbed
 B. jump in 30 guys cuz the ship you just tackled is bait
 C. cloak up watch you run down the timer
 D. Cry when you wont fight your enemy 1v5 without links
 
 Have every ship in the game in your hanger because you never know when you will need your marauder to kill a couple frigates
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        |  Maximus Hashur
 n.Die
 The Periphery
 
 31
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.15 19:32:00 -
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 Liam Inkuras wrote:
 N+Śmero UNO: Do not get caught up and obsessed with kill board stats or isk efficiency. That drags many people down and keeps them from having fun in ships that would "ruin" their KB if they were to lose it. Just fly what you want and get blown up.
 
 
 
 This all the way. Go out there and just try to f&ck Sh*it up. Who cares if a killboard shows you have more losses then kills. The truth is, if you solo alot your going to almost definately lose more than you win because of small gang / blob situations.
 Looked up...saw this F***ING clown dropping like a rock.-á Woke up in Vylade wondering what just happened!!!
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        |  Muad 'dib
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 Amarrian Commandos
 
 857
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.16 16:07:00 -
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 Hell no, get lvl 5 skills and a few billion isk, blow it all on the most expensive and unessery ship you can and fit it with purple or green corner modules AND MOST IMPORTANTLY never undock and never EVER pvp in it - but DO link it in corp, militia, alliance, local and newb chat to boast about it.
 http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
 
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        |  kraiklyn Asatru
 T.R.I.A.D
 
 220
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.16 17:23:00 -
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 Looks at his fleet pest with T1 guns.... so thats once I have lvl 5 skills right .
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        |  YoYoMommy
 Aideron Robotics
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2013.04.19 07:41:00 -
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 Muad 'dib wrote:Dont stay for too long in FW. Lies.
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        |  Commissar Veldt
 Progressive State
 State Section 9
 
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       | Posted - 2013.04.19 10:38:00 -
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 SeaSaw wrote:Okay, but it is much easier just to get an alt account and train up a loki like everybody else.
 Why start out at a big dissadvantage? The op is asking for tips--your tip is "run away from most fights" because they have a loki and you don't.
 
 You can't beat an OGB hookbill in a novice plex pure solo. Plain and simple.
 
 your humble servent
 SeaSaw
 
 
 OGB isnt a requirement, Ive never used them for solo PVP and had lots of solo kills, not everybody uses them, once you know the pilots who do and you know their boosting alts avoid fighting them unless you want a challenge.
 
 Main trick is like others have said, know your ship types and know the common fits for them, if range is your weakness dont engage fast kitey ships etc...
 
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