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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.12 05:25:00 -
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Recently PAK actually decided to recruit, but unfortunately things didn't work out well. The first recruit made off with a Vagabond, and if a "friend" can't be trusted as a member with such a small piece of cake then they can't be trusted with the gravy.
As a result I will be keeping PAK to myself, I don't want you, and you probably don't want anything to do with me (or care).
PAK has reset all standings to -10 (of the few I had positive) and has adopted a **** off policy.
PAK will not be recruiting unless Sara Kerrigan returns from the WoW whoring and decides that's her thing. (Warhound doesn't count *cough* ebayed account *cough*) _________________________________________________________
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.09.12 05:28:00 -
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erm.......why'd you give a new recruit access to a corp hac?
Volt
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.12 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Voltron erm.......why'd you give a new recruit access to a corp hac?
Volt
I've known him for a few months now. It was a test.. if I can't trust him with 50M (as it is only 50M ) what's the point in having him as a wingman?
Wasn't just some recruitment channel newbie. _________________________________________________________
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.09.12 05:34:00 -
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gotcha, fair enough.
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.09.12 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Gift on 12/09/2005 06:10:10
Originally by: Soren PAK will not be recruiting unless Sara Kerrigan returns from the WoW whoring and decides that's her thing.
awe, I was just gonna put my app in
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:25:00 -
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You should join eve-uni. We love you Soren -----------
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:33:00 -
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If I were you I'd post their name, then I would just grief that person out of at least twice as much isk. Does he have implants? :D
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:41:00 -
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I think you should name and shame.
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2 has the most unhelpful Gm's and tech support around
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Re4l 4lt
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:04:00 -
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Whos pak?
Oh yes thats right, the empire pirates no one cares about.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Re4l 4lt Whos pak?
Oh yes thats right, the empire pirates no one cares about.
You cared enough to use an alt. Soren must be doin sumin right.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:20:00 -
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can i join? ------------------------------------------- "Det hõr kan betyda krig!" |
Re4l 4lt
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Re4l 4lt Whos pak?
Oh yes thats right, the empire pirates no one cares about.
You cared enough to use an alt. Soren must be doin sumin right.
Whos F-E? Oh yeah thats right the alliance that holds 2 systems.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Re4l 4lt
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Re4l 4lt Whos pak?
Oh yes thats right, the empire pirates no one cares about.
You cared enough to use an alt. Soren must be doin sumin right.
Whos F-E? Oh yeah thats right the alliance that holds 2 systems.
OHNOES, the alt insulted me. My life as we know it is over. Oh wait no its not. And the day your opinion matters is the day I become king of the world. Run along now.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:04:00 -
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DON'T HOMOUR THE ALT!!!oneoen --------------------------------
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:23:00 -
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Soren, you must have been very unlucky dude with your recruit
Ohh, and please name and shame, maybe the guy tries the same with some other pirate corps
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Rillian
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Posted - 2005.09.12 10:48:00 -
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Hey yas Soren , so thats where the Queen has gotten off to :P was wondering why I had not seen you guys on.
Also PAK is a very honerable Pirate corp, If they ever catch me :P I would ransom as they hold their word and would not pop you after paying.
Sorry about the theft mate if you send me his name I will watch out and pop him one for yas
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Manux187
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Posted - 2005.09.12 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
OHNOES, the alt insulted me. My life as we know it is over. Oh wait no its not.
Actually it was hardly an insult, more stating facts. Your life is over? I didnt think you HAD a life.
Quote: Run along now.
I prefer shuttles, thanks.
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.09.12 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Re4l 4lt
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Re4l 4lt Whos pak?
Oh yes thats right, the empire pirates no one cares about.
You cared enough to use an alt. Soren must be doin sumin right.
Whos F-E? Oh yeah thats right the alliance that holds 2 systems.
3 actually
www.eve-wiki.com/er Say hi! ParMizaN > i nearly slept qwith a guy last night o.0
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.09.12 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Manux187
Originally by: Darken Two
OHNOES, the alt insulted me. My life as we know it is over. Oh wait no its not.
Actually it was hardly an insult, more stating facts. Your life is over? I didnt think you HAD a life.
Quote: Run along now.
I prefer shuttles, thanks.
Whoa calm down bud. No need to get all personal. Its a game you know.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.09.12 12:49:00 -
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Soren.. shame to hear ... :(
Centuria > whoot? Centuria > you stalking me? :) -- Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL -- http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/ |
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.12 13:24:00 -
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The pilot is Piscis, he seemed kind of lame and I should have seen it comming but was willing to give it a try.
He talks alot.. about his uber gearz and it seems he does have the isk (flying navy thron few days ago). If you want at him expect good loot.
tbh I'm drawing conclusions.. but he removed his roles, blocked me, took the Vaga, and had lied to me more then once. I even realised it long before the escrow was accepted but seeing as you can't cancel a personal escorw couldn't do ****e, and the helpful GM wouldn't help either. _________________________________________________________
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.09.12 13:29:00 -
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It pains me to see something like this happen, but rest assured Ill do all I can to make his life miserable.
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:42:00 -
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Corp theft is lame sorry to hear. Hey soren we will have to finish that wolf dual we started some day
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!! Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
danneh
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Posted - 2005.09.12 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: danneh on 12/09/2005 16:56:23 Nevermind.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Soren on 12/09/2005 20:02:47 It sounds like accounts were sold and the person piscis (on a different account now) has my vagabond although I'm still not sure what's going on..
Power says that he's uber and I to have to recruit him back so he can bum a F.A.G.(you know.. a UK smoke )
btw Laurelin.. I didn't flame anyone, I just used "naughty" words in my sentances.. you can't tell the difference? _________________________________________________________
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:07:00 -
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good luck in getting your revenge Soren -------------- The Eve Diplomacy Table |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 12/09/2005 20:37:51
Originally by: Soren Edited by: Soren on 12/09/2005 15:51:05 The pilot is Piscis, he seemed kind of lame and I should have seen it comming but was willing to give it a try.
He talks alot.. about his uber gearz and it seems he does have the isk (flying navy thron few days ago). If you want at him expect good loot.
tbh I'm drawing conclusions.. but he removed his roles, blocked me, took the Vaga, and had lied to me more then once. I even realised it long before the escrow was accepted but seeing as you can't cancel a personal escrow couldn't do *snip*, and the helpful GM wouldn't help either.
Flame removed.Laurelin
I turned him down for tundragon two weeks ago
Im sorry to hear something like this happened to you, but your alot better off loosing one vaga now instead of having some1 your not sure about by yourside. Atleast he didnt go around and **** up your corps rep.
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:34:00 -
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Blah that sucks, Soren.
Do call me for the BBQ once you get his corpse.
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Ajaya
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:48:00 -
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There was a time when Piscis was a reliable, trustworthy, solid corp mate. And as much as it pains me, he's turned into a liar, and aparently a theif. I keep hoping that the things he's done and the lies he's told have some good explanations, but the more and more I've seen of what he's done, I know that there can't be any good explanation for it.
It's sad really, I like the guy. A lot of people in my corp thought of him as a good friend. I know that not a single one of us trust him anymore and I think most of us aren't going to try to be friends with him anymore. I personally feel very badly for Soren because I know what it's like first hand to be lied to by Piscis so I share what he feels, but I also felt that maybe if Contraband had caught onto this behavior earlier others wouldn't have had to suffer because of it in the future.
But my ranting aside, after danneh pointed me to this thread this morning, I talked to Soren and did some research and found out that piscis basicly used a corp mate's alt to claim this hac on escrow from soren, then trade it to a new char he had bought from another corp mate of mine recently. He had actually sold the char piscis a few days ago, but the had had been escrowed to this alt which he had aparently told Soren was his own alt. So basicly, since we found out that the guy who owned piscis had basicly been lying to us for a while about various things, we kicked his new character he had bought from our corp a day or so ago. By looking at the logs from the alt he used, I was able to verify that he did infact trade the vagabond to his new char as of less than a day ago, and then I heard today that he was trying to sell this vagabond to another corp mate of mine last night (lol?).
Anyways, I've sent him an eve-mail asking what is going on. If he doesn't return the vagabond to Soren, I will ensure personally that it gets replaced for Soren. Even though we can't control what the previous owner of Piscis does or did, I still feel responsible in a way, and I also feel it reflects poorly on my corp the actions that he's taken since the few days since he left our corp.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.12 23:57:00 -
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The conclusions?
First of all I want to give Contraband Inc. (Ajaya especially) +rep points. They were nothing but helpful about sorting this out even though it was really no longer their problem.
Now tbh.. I don't know what to believe. It was all one BIG messy situation. It all came down to bad communication, or one poorly planned scam. It is really all too confusing to explain properly so I won't go into detail.
I did get a Vagabond back, and in the end there isn't anything solid to hold against the old Piscis besides being kept in the dark and bad timing.
Matt - I'm sorry if you really were trying but I wouldn't give it another shot. The whole deal was too sketchy. I don't know if you care to still keep in touch, but that's your choice.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.09.13 00:16:00 -
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all i can say is...
you put gravy on cake?
ewwwww
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.09.13 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ajaya There was a time when Piscis was a reliable, trustworthy, solid corp mate. And as much as it pains me, he's turned into a liar, and aparently a theif. I keep hoping that the things he's done and the lies he's told have some good explanations, but the more and more I've seen of what he's done, I know that there can't be any good explanation for it.
It's sad really, I like the guy. A lot of people in my corp thought of him as a good friend. I know that not a single one of us trust him anymore and I think most of us aren't going to try to be friends with him anymore. I personally feel very badly for Soren because I know what it's like first hand to be lied to by Piscis so I share what he feels, but I also felt that maybe if Contraband had caught onto this behavior earlier others wouldn't have had to suffer because of it in the future.
But my ranting aside, after danneh pointed me to this thread this morning, I talked to Soren and did some research and found out that piscis basicly used a corp mate's alt to claim this hac on escrow from soren, then trade it to a new char he had bought from another corp mate of mine recently. He had actually sold the char piscis a few days ago, but the had had been escrowed to this alt which he had aparently told Soren was his own alt. So basicly, since we found out that the guy who owned piscis had basicly been lying to us for a while about various things, we kicked his new character he had bought from our corp a day or so ago. By looking at the logs from the alt he used, I was able to verify that he did infact trade the vagabond to his new char as of less than a day ago, and then I heard today that he was trying to sell this vagabond to another corp mate of mine last night (lol?).
Anyways, I've sent him an eve-mail asking what is going on. If he doesn't return the vagabond to Soren, I will ensure personally that it gets replaced for Soren. Even though we can't control what the previous owner of Piscis does or did, I still feel responsible in a way, and I also feel it reflects poorly on my corp the actions that he's taken since the few days since he left our corp.
Respect.
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Trina Tron
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Posted - 2005.09.13 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ajaya There was a time when Piscis was a reliable, trustworthy, solid corp mate. And as much as it pains me, he's turned into a liar, and aparently a theif. I keep hoping that the things he's done and the lies he's told have some good explanations, but the more and more I've seen of what he's done, I know that there can't be any good explanation for it.
It's sad really, I like the guy. A lot of people in my corp thought of him as a good friend. I know that not a single one of us trust him anymore and I think most of us aren't going to try to be friends with him anymore. I personally feel very badly for Soren because I know what it's like first hand to be lied to by Piscis so I share what he feels, but I also felt that maybe if Contraband had caught onto this behavior earlier others wouldn't have had to suffer because of it in the future.
But my ranting aside, after danneh pointed me to this thread this morning, I talked to Soren and did some research and found out that piscis basicly used a corp mate's alt to claim this hac on escrow from soren, then trade it to a new char he had bought from another corp mate of mine recently. He had actually sold the char piscis a few days ago, but the had had been escrowed to this alt which he had aparently told Soren was his own alt. So basicly, since we found out that the guy who owned piscis had basicly been lying to us for a while about various things, we kicked his new character he had bought from our corp a day or so ago. By looking at the logs from the alt he used, I was able to verify that he did infact trade the vagabond to his new char as of less than a day ago, and then I heard today that he was trying to sell this vagabond to another corp mate of mine last night (lol?).
Anyways, I've sent him an eve-mail asking what is going on. If he doesn't return the vagabond to Soren, I will ensure personally that it gets replaced for Soren. Even though we can't control what the previous owner of Piscis does or did, I still feel responsible in a way, and I also feel it reflects poorly on my corp the actions that he's taken since the few days since he left our corp.
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crazy
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Posted - 2005.09.13 04:03:00 -
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:/ sorry soren
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Godar Marak
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Posted - 2005.09.13 08:07:00 -
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This is the worst attention seeking post EVER!
Corp theft happens all the time, and you just lost a hac pffft. People have lost a hell lot more and they dont make stupid "ooh look at me" posts.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.09.13 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak This is the worst attention seeking post EVER!
Corp theft happens all the time, and you just lost a hac pffft. People have lost a hell lot more and they dont make stupid "ooh look at me" posts.
lol, alright (alt I assume? can't check atm). If I were seeking attention I would go to ships and modules and ask for a nerf of the Navitas because with it's -60% mining laser cap use, and ability to fit one miner 2, I think it'll crash the market and ruin the economics in Eve.
This is a post letting people know what has happened.. If you don't care about me or my corp then feck off k? I'll do the same in your threads. _________________________________________________________
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Godar Marak This is the worst attention seeking post EVER!
Corp theft happens all the time, and you just lost a hac pffft. People have lost a hell lot more and they dont make stupid "ooh look at me" posts.
lol, alright (alt I assume? can't check atm). If I were seeking attention I would go to ships and modules and ask for a nerf of the Navitas because with it's -60% mining laser cap use, and ability to fit one miner 2, I think it'll crash the market and ruin the economics in Eve.
This is a post letting people know what has happened.. If you don't care about me or my corp then feck off k? I'll do the same in your threads.
super4lt will side with you both in this debate. superalt belive Godar Marak is right but Soren is also right. Godar ignore posts if you dont like them, and Soren this thread was really unnecessary.
superalt decides that both of you need to reflect on your shortcomings and hope you will live long and prosper.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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