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Unseen Spectre
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:52:00 -
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This may be a stupid qustion, but would it make any sense to switch the percentages to the raven's bonuses?
+10% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire (instead of 5%)
+5% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo Velocity (instead of 10%)
But maybe this becomes too powerful... |
Unseen Spectre
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Posted - 2013.04.10 15:43:00 -
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@CCP Rise
A lot have been written about the Raven in this thread, but so far this has not had a big impact on the changes to the stats other than a very minor increase in the base shield hp compared to the original stats.
You probably have your reasons for not making additional changes to the ship, but could you please share your considerations for not e.g. changing the missile speed bonus to a damage/damage application bonus, making the ship faster/more maneuverable, improving the scan resolution to improve locking time etc.
So far, I have not I have not seen much feedback to the suggested changes, so it would be nice to know your considerations for making the ship the way it is.
Feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Unseen Spectre
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:14:00 -
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@CCP Rise
Though I may have missed it, I have not seen any feedback from you concerning the Raven vs. Typhoon issue. Could you please provide feedback in relation the concerns of the players that the Typhoon will plainly outclass the Raven in just about every aspect?
Looking at the ships without considering fitting and the overall slot layout, since both ships have the two ships have the same number of missile launcher hard points and the same rate of fire bonus it is the second bonus that differentiates the ships. The Typhoon will be better at applying damage whereas the Raven will have a range bonus.
I tried to make some PVE (not PVP) fits focusing on a cap stable fit with a balance of active tank and damage. Now bear in mind that this is just fits according to my taste and I am sure people have different tastes when it comes to fits.
Raven
Torpedoes: I could not make a decent fit with torpedoes to suit my purposes because the range bonus does not provide enough range for torpedoes to work properly and the raven is too slow to get into range to make the torpedoes useful. I tried to add an AB but I could not get that to work properly. So for torpedoes: The Raven is too slow and the range afforded by the range bonus is not enough.
Cruise missiles: For the Raven, I found that the in general it works best with CMs because here the does not matter that the Raven is slow since the CMS have a long base strike range, but the range bonus is not relevant because the range of the cruise missiles as they are without the added bonus is adequate. So for CMs: CMs work for the Raven but the range bonus is irrelevant because of the base range of CMs, i.e. the bonus is somewhat wasted here!
Typhoon
Torpedoes: For the Typhoon, I was able to get fit an AB to the active tank and get a cap stable fit. This means that it has speed to get within strike range and the second bonus means that it will be better at applying the damage. So for torpedoes: The Typhoon is a viable torpedo boat and the bonus to apply damage makes it better at applying damage.
Cruise missiles: Using the same basic fit as for torpedoes with a few alterations, I could get it to perform at almost the same level as the Raven, but with the important factor, that it will be better at applying the damage due to its second bonus at a good range thanks to the base range of CMs. And it is still faster than the Raven. So for CMs: CMs work for the Typhoon and the bonus means that it can better apply damage.
TL:DR: PVE fits of my personal taste: Overall, I found that the Raven is best with CMs (where the range bonus is not that relevant!) and torpedoes do not work very well (the Raven is too slow and the range bonus does not provide enough range). The Typhoon can be used with both CMs and torpedoes and its bonus to apply damage is relevant to both types of missiles.
I think the Raven needs to be improved so that it is at least on par with the Typhoon. In general, I think that the attack battleships need to be faster than the fastest combat battleship. |
Unseen Spectre
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Posted - 2013.05.04 16:59:00 -
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@Hagika
You are probably right... and that is the sad part of it that CCP will not at least provide some feedback - I knew from the beginning that it was a utopian hope to get a reply... but I had to try.
Actually, it seems that the Caldari BS thread seems to have received the least feedback when compared to the other BS threads, we you could construe that Caldari are not really in CCP's focus... which is probably not a big surprise either... for after all, hey they are "just" Caldari ships... who cares??? |
Unseen Spectre
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Posted - 2013.05.04 20:44:00 -
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@Hagika
Although the recent could be construed as CCP is having a bias against the Caldari (for whatever reasons/whether consciously or unconsciously) CCP will never admit to such a bias (I will be really surprised if they do!)... |
Unseen Spectre
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:29:00 -
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lol :D |
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