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supernova ranger
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.08 20:05:00 -
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I'd like marauder set ups from anyone successfully using them and willing to share and what they are used for. |

Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation
106
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Posted - 2013.04.08 22:13:00 -
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A L4 mission Vargur fit is a no-brainer imo. |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
189
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Posted - 2013.04.08 22:34:00 -
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Been toying with the kronos, with rails it seems to be pretty good at missions vs guristas and serpentis, and with blasters it could be rather nice for anoms. It does have some advantages over the vindi, mainly the non-gimped targeting range and how easily it tanks kin/th damage. Salvaging BS rats could add some nice extra income to anom runners, too, though it'd get annoying in missions I think. thhief ghabmoef |

Ersahi Kir
Freelance Mining Company
86
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Posted - 2013.04.09 00:10:00 -
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supernova ranger wrote:I'd like marauder set ups from anyone successfully using them and willing to share and what they are used for.
Golem 4xtorpedo launchers w/precision or faction ammo afterburner target painter (hardeners and booster) 4xBCU torpedo velocity rigs
They're used for non-guristas missions. ECM is a bee-yatch. It's overtanked though, would probably clear faster with a navy raven or a different pirate ship, I just think the golem looks neat. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
304
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:06:00 -
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Used Kronos for incursion sites for a while vg/as/hq/mom sites for testing ship ability mainly compared to Vindicator it failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator.
Used it with both blasters web combo as well as rail platform.it fail at tank dps number dps application over pirate counterpart as well as drone bandwidth ship speed and agility low sig rez.
semi perk it can pull cans from afar can provide limited range cap to basi if needed(VG) in other sites cant fleet is mobile
Current use is shield tank mission boat perform ok i dislike ok performance for supposedly mission focused boat
Kroni
MWD for what ever sig amp for mag stab so you can touch 1000 dps empty high for shield or armor rep depending with who i fly.
Used Vargur for mission as AC boat current use incursions as Arty boat (AC when needed) due to inability to mount proper t2 guns limited pg is stopping this ship true performance to show up.
limited perks it look awesome can tractor stuff limited cap transfer true perk tracking bonus
Not so good pg is nerfed hard inability to test ship true performance using one of racial weapon types. overall lower dps than counterparts low hit point=inappropriate tank for fleet operations,low speed low agility low drone bandwidth and bay low sig rez.
Machariel perform better overall in dps applying dps speed agility drones sig rez
No pic for Varg it is far out.
I choose to buy redeemer instead of paladin for one of my alts will proly have it soon to take it for the spin(i tend to test ship with marauder 5 and alt have 4) have no desire to operate golem. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1280
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Posted - 2013.04.09 06:59:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:Stuff
Heh, funny. Uses Kronos, which is obviously built completely around an armor tank as a shield fit, and is unhappy with performance. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
304
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:40:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:Stuff Heh, funny. Uses Kronos, which is obviously built completely around an armor tank as a shield fit, and is unhappy with performance.
your point i don't have issues with ship tank don't be shy link yours if it is so much better http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1281
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:15:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:Stuff Heh, funny. Uses Kronos, which is obviously built completely around an armor tank as a shield fit, and is unhappy with performance. your point i don't have issues with ship tank don't be shy link yours if it is so much better
Nicely missed the point. I would agree in a shield fit the Vindi wins. It has the better slot layout for an effective shield tank.
In an armor variety they perform much closer in performance. Given that I have had 2 occasions in VG where a Kronos literally saved the day (Guardian DC's as the fleet enters site), I like having them around.
BTW, a screenshot of your fitting screen isn't showing a "fit".
But here's 2 basic incursion fits. They are very close in performance. Yes the vindi wins on DPS, but only by ~50dps. The Kronos uses half the ammo, and the hull is half the cost of a vindi.
[Kronos, Incursion Standard]
Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Armor Explosive Hardener II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Federation Navy Stasis Webifier 100MN Microwarpdrive II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Large Remote Armor Repair System II Large Remote Armor Repair System II Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator II Large Anti-Thermic Pump I
[Vindicator, Incursion Standard]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Armor Explosive Hardener II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Sensor Booster II Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II 100MN Microwarpdrive II Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Large Anti-Thermic Pump I Large Anti-Kinetic Pump I Large Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
304
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Posted - 2013.04.09 15:12:00 -
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some nice fit you got there but lets not go there :)
ok as far as i see u didn't prove any of my points wrong vindi still have more dps even if you tried to compensate with additional dog rig as well as not mentioning drones at all
It still have better application of dmg due to more tracking comes and if you consider that tracking rig it dominate kroni in tracking and dps at range.
it is fast more agile and even without scripted sebo it have better scan rez .
ammo usage and price of a ship will never be performance factors per se also cheap ship often means it suck compared to expensive one...not necessary but often.
Kroni is not only ship that can save the day with spare high slots so i didn't hope them too much but i did mention them.
also if you start to multiply ships say 6-10 Vindicators (not uncommon in highend fleets) gap become ever more obvious.
so i don't believe i was wrong in any of my statements i made even in armor case.
as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?
apologies for spelling errors i hate spell correction and this phone. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1284
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Posted - 2013.04.09 15:28:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?
Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator"
I showed 2 fits that are very similar in terms of bling, mostly T2. And including drones are withing 150DPS of each other.
Yes the Vindicator wins. But not by such a wide margin I would classify the Kronos as a "miserable failure"
And this is only talking incursions.
I guess if anything I have issue with your fit is the basic concept of trying to shield tank a Kronos. They just don't shield tank well, as evidenced by your fit vs a standard armor fit, they both do the same DPS. IMO if you wanna shield tank a Mega hull use a Navy Mega or Vindi. |
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1239
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:00:00 -
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I can't seem to bring myself to burn the training time for BS5...  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Kara Books
Deal with IT.
504
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:40:00 -
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1500 DPS, the tank has not failed me yet. (lvl 4 highsec)
The Paladin. http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/65141-Paladin-Books-Pally2013-retribution-1-1.html |

supernova ranger
EVE University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:26:00 -
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is your cap booster always on? how much cargo space does your cap take going into a mission? |

supernova ranger
EVE University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:28:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?
Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator" I showed 2 fits that are very similar in terms of bling, mostly T2. And including drones are withing 150DPS of each other. Yes the Vindicator wins. But not by such a wide margin I would classify the Kronos as a "miserable failure" And this is only talking incursions. I guess if anything I have issue with your fit is the basic concept of trying to shield tank a Kronos. They just don't shield tank well, as evidenced by your fit vs a standard armor fit, they both do the same DPS. IMO if you wanna shield tank a Mega hull use a Navy Mega or Vindi.
what drones? is this dps subsidized by sentries? |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1294
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:06:00 -
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supernova ranger wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:as for the pic what is wrong with it you can see every mod on it and recognise if you play eve online as for specific names..well go and fit your self one..you still didn't link yours but you are claiming mine is bad..what gives?
Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator" I showed 2 fits that are very similar in terms of bling, mostly T2. And including drones are withing 150DPS of each other. Yes the Vindicator wins. But not by such a wide margin I would classify the Kronos as a "miserable failure" And this is only talking incursions. I guess if anything I have issue with your fit is the basic concept of trying to shield tank a Kronos. They just don't shield tank well, as evidenced by your fit vs a standard armor fit, they both do the same DPS. IMO if you wanna shield tank a Mega hull use a Navy Mega or Vindi. what drones? is this dps subsidized by sentries?
I was called out for using turret dps only. So i threw in ogres for both (since the vindicator has the bandwidth for a full flight of heavies). |

Steel Roamer
Pandemic Legion Academy
20
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Posted - 2013.04.09 19:01:00 -
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If you do not know exactly how they should be fit without a second thought...
... You probably shouldn't bother flying it. |

Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
306
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Posted - 2013.04.09 19:45:00 -
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Am i the only one who wants to know what a dog rig is? Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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Nnezu
Rainbow Bus Club
3
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Posted - 2013.04.09 20:07:00 -
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Battleclinic
not every fit is brilliant, but you get a rough idea. They normally post numbers and such right next to it. Apply common sense and you got your ship pretty fast. |

Cap James Tkirk
Gung-HO Guns No Mercy For Percy
94
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:28:00 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:Am i the only one who wants to know what a dog rig is?
its when u tie space puppies to your ship |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
304
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Posted - 2013.04.10 07:00:00 -
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@ Derath
"Never said your fit was bad. I never said the Kronos would out DPS a Vindicator. The only thing I was taking issue was that you claim that it "failed miserably even with billions invested over basic t2 fitted vindicator" "
I am sorry but i don't think i overstated anything in that sentence and here is why i will focus on one single metric here because i do believe it is showing things good enough...at least to support my claim that i made....for this i went for more fair comparison
Both ship have same amount of mags and same dmg rig vindi will lose ability to fil all rig slots but it is not important this way both ships have dmg(dog :P)rig and single rezist one.
Billionish poor man vindicator t2 mods 1800dps
Failing miserably 13 to 15 billion 1650dps kronos
But i must correct my self adding that just for shy 4.5 billion isk will make kroni scan rez better by whole less than a half second than vindicator..that's huge.
I also agree with you that kroni should be armor tanked purely due to armor rep bonus but it is absolutely not necessary to do it..if anybody have an issue tanking t2 rezist ship no mater what flavor tank is..maybe it is time to like biomass your self..some mighty awesome 10/10 runners using t2 rezist without booster bonus gizmo are floating around.
Again armor tank on kroni yes been there done that now im not there doing that :) http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
834
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Posted - 2013.04.10 08:42:00 -
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supernova ranger wrote:is your cap booster always on? how much cargo space does your cap take going into a mission?
That thing eats boosters like a madman, it's not bad as such but the mods are a bit silly (it's battleclinic, they always find a way to make a fit **** or unrealistic).
Have a look here, requires a PG implant:
[Paladin, LVL 4 - sansha] Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer Armor EM Hardener II Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink
100MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Corpus C-Type Heavy Nosferatu Corpus C-Type Heavy Nosferatu Small Tractor Beam I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

Keilateau Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
9
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Posted - 2013.04.10 11:33:00 -
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I use this in Derelik:
[Paladin, derelik copy 1] Ammatar Navy Large Armor Repairer Reactive Armor Hardener Centii A-Type Thermic Plating Centii A-Type EM Plating Ammatar Navy Heat Sink Ammatar Navy Heat Sink Ammatar Navy Heat Sink
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Small Tractor Beam II Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Energy Collision Accelerator II
Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x10
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stoicfaux
2578
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Posted - 2013.04.10 14:11:00 -
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Vargur for minnie space.
Golem for minnie space. Swap out the MJD for a shield booster as needed. Use CN or Javelin torps. [Golem, Level 4] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Explosive Deflection Field II Large Micro Jump Drive Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Salvager II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Warrior II x1
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Anfauglith
Retired Soldier Ltd.
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 09:03:00 -
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This is what "I" currently use, works pretty well and is capstable at 50% with booster running. (Yeah, know the falloff rig is pretty useless but bought the wrong one and never bothered to change ) Add a set of Crystals on this 
[Vargur, Missions] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Shield Boost Amplifier II Cap Recharger II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I Large Projectile Burst Aerator II |
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