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Naz Dragoth
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:05:00 -
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What is the fastest way to gain security, i have a character with -2.5 sec that i would like to get to 0.0+ Im doing lvl3 missions with him but i only seem to gain sec on every 100 rat or so that i kill.
I dont have access to 0.0 so hunting there wouldnt help me much.
To me it seems that it would be quicker to start a new char even tho he's got 4m sp.
I know "you do the crime you do the time" applies, but isnt this a bit extreme? I wanted to try piracy, but didnt like it, and now im kinda stuck :/ |
Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:08:00 -
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Killing NPC battleships. And even then the gain is slow.
It used to be that if you had a negative sec status, it would "degenerate", gradually reaching 0. I believe alternate methods to gain neutral status are needed, or at least specific agents/missions for lawless pirates so that they can work on their status. But only up to 0, we don't want the whole "CONCORD GRINDING FTW" thing again... people with 10 in standings all over the place :/
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:09:00 -
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Also, I think you can enter secure space again after you pass the -2.5 mark. Or was it -2?
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Naz Dragoth
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:21:00 -
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So by activly running lvl3's, getting to 0.0 would take me about 3 to 4 months?
That's just great... 4 months in jail for trying out piracy.
I guess i have to remember not to drop the soap for the next 4 months then.....
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Oz Draconis
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:35:00 -
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Shucks, it just isn't fair for you to have any consequences for potentially ruining other peopleÆs fun and destroy their hard earned ships and equipment!
You should petition this! 
Maybe you should start an ex-pirate support groupā
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Malais III
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Oz Draconis
Shucks, it just isn't fair for you to have any consequences for potentially ruining other peopleÆs fun and destroy their hard earned ships and equipment!
You should petition this!
Maybe you should start an ex-pirate support groupā
There is no reason to turn this into a rant about PvP, or Player rats.
This debate is so old, my Grandma knows how it goes, and can sing along with it.
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.09.13 18:43:00 -
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lol... from -2.5 you can get to atleast -1.9 in a few hours... But it involves 0.0
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:48:00 -
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Yes from -2.5 you could do it very quickly. After the patch I find npc'ing boosts your sec status quicker than before.
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2005.09.13 19:55:00 -
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for the best gains do lvl 4s and conplexes u get 0.8 increases for some of the battleship kills works for me
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.13 20:07:00 -
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you can go into 0.9 systems.
Just not 1.0
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Romano Solaris
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Posted - 2005.09.13 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Romano Solaris on 13/09/2005 20:58:27
Compelxs, BS bosses and keyolders give 0.8% gain,
Level 4 missions, some of the NPC BS give a 0.8% gain (Guristas 400k ravens are one...)
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:30:00 -
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Your security status shouldn't go down if you shoot someone with a negative rating.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Your security status shouldn't go down if you shoot someone with a negative rating.
Wrong.
Only if they're -5 or lower, does it not go down.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:46:00 -
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If they're criminals they're criminals, none of these layers in hell, make them all open targets and being naughty would be something people thought twice about.
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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.09.13 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
If they're criminals they're criminals, none of these layers in hell, make them all open targets and being naughty would be something people thought twice about.
It Dante had that attitude, we wouldn't read Inferno in school. And I liked Dante.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.09.13 22:14:00 -
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Keep whatever features there are for criminals against NPC. Just don't punish lawabiding denizens by lowering their security status for taking potshots at people with negative security status. Other than the usual Concord response if in the improper place.
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2005.09.13 22:46:00 -
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Just go to a random 0.1-0.4 system of your choise and do level 4 kill missis. Your sec status should rise fairly fast enough.
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Cheechako
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Posted - 2005.09.14 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Keep whatever features there are for criminals against NPC. Just don't punish lawabiding denizens by lowering their security status for taking potshots at people with negative security status. Other than the usual Concord response if in the improper place.
Just the same, you can't go out and do vigilante justice in modern countries. Same idea applies. If you want to go do this, look at 0.0
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Cerberal
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Posted - 2005.09.14 02:00:00 -
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Okay, sometimes my 0.0 access points are blockaded, and i like to stay under -2.0 security. When this happens i go to a .1 .2 .3 sector with plenty of belts, and NPC for a few hours.
If you can dedicate yourself for about 2-3 days to NPCing, you can get a lot of that security back. Its better than doing missions and waiting 3-4 months to regain the sec.
Make sure you try hunting in .1 .2 if you cant do 0.0, theres a chance you might see an "Officer" npc, and if you kill him he may drop something really good, like a named implant.
Look on the map for the nearest .1 .2's and click "Show info" on them to see how many roid belts they have. Get one that has OVER 10 belts and your golden, thats the best advice i can give I guess.
Good luck.
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Chronos Chi
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Posted - 2005.09.14 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Chronos Chi on 14/09/2005 11:00:36
doesn't training Fast Talk up speed things up some?
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.09.14 13:07:00 -
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Yes, I'd skill 'fast talk' and kill BS.
Before I killed BS, my sec rating was almost neutral although I've killed a lot of angels in hundreds of missions. In level.4 missions my sec. rating went up to 1.7. Now I'm only a few weeks in 0.0 space and I've got a sec rating of 5.0.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.09.14 13:46:00 -
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go to lowsec, kill belt rats, lots of them.
Of course you will want to bash battleships as they give the biggest gain.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.09.14 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Naz Dragoth
What is the fastest way to gain security, i have a character with -2.5 sec that i would like to get to 0.0+ Im doing lvl3 missions with him but i only seem to gain sec on every 100 rat or so that i kill.
I dont have access to 0.0 so hunting there wouldnt help me much.
To me it seems that it would be quicker to start a new char even tho he's got 4m sp.
I know "you do the crime you do the time" applies, but isnt this a bit extreme? I wanted to try piracy, but didnt like it, and now im kinda stuck :/
Run complexes. They give a lot more security status gain than normal npc hunting does, with the same amount of work.
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XFinanX
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Posted - 2005.09.14 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Raem Civrie
Also, I think you can enter secure space again after you pass the -2.5 mark. Or was it -2?
-3.9 to get in to .6 or less. -4.4 or less for .5
My goal is to get my main char back to -3.9 from -5.4...
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