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Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2013.04.14 15:41:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:
On average, homosexual men have more sex partners than women or straight men. It's also the nature of the act itself and that the fact that the colon is more very susceptible to infection that leads to them having an easier time receiving the infection and then spreading it.
This is exactly what happens when straight women in Africa without protection get it. It has nothing to do with the exclusivity of 2 men. Edit: or promiscuity. It just takes one time. You're hung up on the possibility of infection as if it was a binary 0 or 1 formula when there are many more factors at work. The probability of infection is multiplied by the number of partners a person has. The nature of the act itself multiplies it further. A woman is a lot less likely to spread the infection than a man is which means that every woman in the chain slows down the spread of the infection when compared to men infecting each other. What this results in is that certain preferences and behaviour greatly multiplies the risk if infection. To dismiss promiscuity as a factor is ridiculous. Yes it only takes one time to catch it but by taking that one risk a hundred times you certainly increase the risk greatly.
Oh Angelique .. you forgot the rule of society again , being right doesn't make you "right" .
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4111
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:32:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:
A woman is a lot less likely to spread the infection than a man is which means that every woman in the chain slows down the spread of the infection when compared to men infecting each other. What this results in is that certain preferences and behaviour greatly multiplies the risk if infection.
Women may not spread it as much except through needle sharing, but their colons are no different from men's (or so I think).
Also, condoms do work. If we had been able to figure that out earlier than it was done, it may not have been quite so bad in the 80's. But it took until 1985, 5 years, to get that figured out thanks to almost no funding at all at the time.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4112
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:36:00 -
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This has been great, but we should probably just stop here.
Just use condoms at least if you are prone to any kind of loose behavior.
Even though I showed no symptoms until 1999, I had to have been infected in 1983, long before we knew condoms were preventative. Thanks to Protease Inhibitors that were invented in 1995, I was able to go on those, and am essentially leading a normal, healthy life.
But unlike all those whom I did lose over the years, I'm not sure why I got to be the one who is a "30 Year Survivor".
Edit: I can only educate from what I know from my own experience in this.
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Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:46:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:This has been great, but we should probably just stop here.
Just use condoms at least if you are prone to any kind of loose behavior.
Even though I showed no symptoms until 1999, I had to have been infected in 1983, long before we knew condoms were preventative. Thanks to Protease Inhibitors that were invented in 1995, I was able to go on those, and am essentially leading a normal, healthy life.
But unlike all those whom I did lose over the years, I'm not sure why I got to be the one who is a "30 Year Survivor".
Edit: I can only educate from what I know from my own experience in this.
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
Russian International Allegiance
110
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:47:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:This has been great, but we should probably just stop here.
Agreed.
And also sorry to hear that K.I.
Join the in-game channel IG OOPE now.
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Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
445
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Women may not spread it as much except through needle sharing, but their colons are no different from men's (or so I think).
Yes but once she has it. The probability of her spreading it is a lot less likely. Even if she has unprotected sex.
Probability again. HIV has a much harder time to make the transition from a woman to a man than vice versa. However from one man to another the spread is very rapid because they are both likely to infect others and to be infected themselves. On top of that men (when given the option) are often more sexually active than women and are also more likely to have multiple partners.
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
Russian International Allegiance
110
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Posted - 2013.04.14 16:57:00 -
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Bleh, thread is going for too long.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4114
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:18:00 -
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Yup. I said 5 posts up that it's time to stop.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4114
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:18:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Women may not spread it as much except through needle sharing, but their colons are no different from men's (or so I think). Yes but once she has it. The probability of her spreading it is a lot less likely. Even if she has unprotected sex. Probability again. HIV has a much harder time to make the transition from a woman to a man than vice versa. However from one man to another the spread is very rapid because they are both likely to infect others and to be infected themselves. On top of that men (when given the option) are often more sexually active than women and are also more likely to have multiple partners.
The point is they are not safe just because they are women.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4114
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:19:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:strange way to come out of the closet
I've been out a while in OOPE. Where were you ?
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Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
450
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:46:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Women may not spread it as much except through needle sharing, but their colons are no different from men's (or so I think). Yes but once she has it. The probability of her spreading it is a lot less likely. Even if she has unprotected sex. Probability again. HIV has a much harder time to make the transition from a woman to a man than vice versa. However from one man to another the spread is very rapid because they are both likely to infect others and to be infected themselves. On top of that men (when given the option) are often more sexually active than women and are also more likely to have multiple partners. The point is they are not safe just because they are women.
Again you are on the binary 1 or 0 scale. No one is safe. But there are degrees of risk and some groups are are at higher risk than others.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Yup. I said 5 posts up that it's time to stop.
Yes you keep saying that but you do parallel to continuing the debate. As in "Here's my argument but do not address it because it's time to stop"
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
2277
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:36:00 -
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so, yeah.
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
2289
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:21:00 -
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I am locking this topic as it has veered widely off topic and has ventured into territory that is already producing violations.
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