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Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:21:00 - [1] i havnt tested this setup but it fitts on paper 5x t2 medium neutrons 1x Mwd 2x whatever 4x magstab2s 1x PDU 10x medium drones the classic plate setup thats gona get a boost to i think... think you can fitt 5 t2 medium electrons and a 1600 plate with a T2 RCU still dont get lower damage i think... think people are gona continue to 'complain' about the thorax /Sent
Cummilla	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:24:00 - [2] They will complain....because simply put they dont like effective blasterboats being in the game in a balanced manner. So, someone with the balls to fly a blasterboat will, if cpu comes up with grid on the Thorax "The next generation," still be able to dominate in alot of situations where you wouldn't think a tech 1 cruiser could.
Motec	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:24:00 - [3] Maybe wrong but sure its not Ion's? Don't think even a deimos can fit 5 nuetrons with 1 pdu.
danneh	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:34:00 - [4] Originally by: HUGO DRAX The Maller. WTS Clue.
HUGO DRAX	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:34:00 - [5] The Maller.
Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:37:00 - [6] isnt it nice when they dont even read a single word /Sent
Mardonius	Posted - 2005.09.16 23:50:00 - [7] Edited by: Mardonius on 16/09/2005 23:52:00 EDIT: Post deleted I forgot to take into account the Thorax powergrid increase. My apologies .
R31D	Posted - 2005.09.17 07:56:00 - [8] and thus, R31D saw the new plans laid out before him, and he was pleased with them. Great setup, I'm glad I'll finally be able to fit a decent Thorax setup, not just havingto use a plate setup. Will be fun to see how it works, that's for sure Free bumpage for all
Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.17 11:37:00 - [9] Edited by: Sentani on 17/09/2005 11:44:29 you need AWU4... just ran the math one more time... and you have to switch the PDU for a RCU it seems you get 24 grid and 106.3 cpu left to play with... so your standard web and jammer fitts perfectly into the two empty mid slots... edit. heh just noticed that you can even squuese in a medium sheild booster... so if you allready have tacklers you can put in a medium shiled booster and a capre... just brainstorming but it will work in theory /Sent
Cividari	Posted - 2005.09.17 13:31:00 - [10] You sure you got enough CPU for all that? Ive been testing with model neutrons, AB and a RCU and it leaves me with very little spare PG and abit of CPU Wanted for crimes against a rich guy.
Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.17 13:33:00 - [11] Edited by: Sentani on 17/09/2005 13:37:07 did you take the future grid increse into acount ? edit. can anyone try to figure out what the damagemod and damage per sec with 10 med drones is ? dont know the formula /Sent
Cividari	Posted - 2005.09.17 13:42:00 - [12] The changes are on sisi, so i very well did Wanted for crimes against a rich guy.
Montolio	Posted - 2005.09.17 13:43:00 - [13] With Hammerhead I it's 72. Base dmg x dmg mod / rof x number of guns/drones = dps 9 x 1.6 = 14.4 14.4 / 2 = 7.2 7.2 x 10 = 72 ---
Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:00:00 - [14] 991.2 pg 153.75 pcu for the guns 4 pg 120 cpu for the dmods 150 pg 50 cpu for the mwd 20 cpu for the RCU thats 343,7 cpu and 1143,2 pg and the ship.. 850 pg x 1.25 x 1.10 = 1168 300 cpu x 1.50 = 450 cpu /Sent
keepiru	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Sentani 991.2 pg 153.75 pcu for the guns 4 pg 120 cpu for the dmods 150 pg 50 cpu for the mwd 20 cpu for the RCU thats 343,7 cpu and 1143,2 pg and the ship.. 850 pg x 1.25 x 1.10 = 1168 300 cpu x 1.50 = 450 cpu its actually 300*1.25=375 ------------- Axe the Thorax's drone bay.
Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:07:00 - [16] nope... its 300 x 1.25 x 1.25 to be honest think someone needs to get lvl5 in electronics and engeneering... you get 25% from both /Sent
keepiru	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:09:00 - [17] MK2 T-Rax is a v nice ship, even in the plate + electron IIs config it lays down hurt like nobody's business. MK2 brutix is also pretty evil... 7x ion IIs mwd injector scram web and repper with no grid mods. Sig of a moon when youre moving, but it allows you to experience almost deimos-like dps for a fraction of the price. ------------- Axe the Thorax's drone bay.
keepiru	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Sentani nope... its 300 x 1.25 x 1.25 to be honest think someone needs to get lvl5 in electronics and engeneering... you get 25% from both right. engineering gives you 5% pg/level, electronics 5% cpu/level. anything else? ------------- Axe the Thorax's drone bay.
Sentani	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:14:00 - [19] Edited by: Sentani on 17/09/2005 14:18:23 what the hell... they have stealth nerfed engineering... back pre exodus it was 5% cpu per lvl to... /Sent
keepiru	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Sentani you get 5% cpu/lvl from engineering to... Engineering: Basic understanding of spaceship energy grid systems. 5% Bonus to powercore power output per level. if you need more proff, check your ship's base cpu and current cpu... ------------- Axe the Thorax's drone bay.
JoCool	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:20:00 - [21] Make it a mini Megathron 5x t2 medium blasters 1x Mwd 1x medium cap booster 1x warp scrambler 2x medium armor repairers 2x hardeners 1x whatever 10x medium drones
Sangxianc	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:51:00 - [22] Engineering was never CPU. - Do not deny yourself experience of that which lies beyond, behind the sun, in the world they call unpeopled.
Spuki	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Cividari The changes are on sisi`... Sure? I just logged in and checked thorax info. It still says 700pg and 200 drone bay there.
keepiru	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:52:00 - [24] Edited by: keepiru on 17/09/2005 14:53:17 Originally by: Spuki Originally by: Cividari The changes are on sisi`... Sure? I just logged in and checked thorax info. It still says 700pg and 200 drone bay there. Hangar 6, fight club station. You should remember that the only changes MK2 ships on SISI have are pg/cpu and slots, everything else (drone bay, bonuses) are as of MK1 version, im waiting for update for some serious testing... ------------- Axe the Thorax's drone bay.
Spuki	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:58:00 - [25] Originally by: keepiru Hangar 6, fight club station. You should remember that the only changes MK2 ships on SISI have are pg/cpu and slots, everything else (drone bay, bonuses) are as of MK1 version, im waiting for update for some serious testing... Thx, didnt know there are new classes of mk2 ships. Just thought the old ones got replaced by the mk2 ships.
keepiru	Posted - 2005.09.17 14:59:00 - [26] Originally by: Spuki Originally by: keepiru Hangar 6, fight club station. You should remember that the only changes MK2 ships on SISI have are pg/cpu and slots, everything else (drone bay, bonuses) are as of MK1 version, im waiting for update for some serious testing... Thx, didnt know there are new classes of mk2 ships. Just thought the old ones got replaced by the mk2 ships. Not yet. 1st we get to test them out and compare, then they get replaced. ------------- Axe the Thorax's drone bay.
Dimitri Forgroth	Posted - 2005.09.18 00:03:00 - [27] How about.. 5 ions (t1/named) MWD, scram, web T2 RCU, 800mm plate, med rep (t1/named), t2 reactive energized, t2 adaptive nano ~50% resists+, good chunk of armour still, quite decent firepower? Downgrading an ion to electron would allow you to make all of the blasters t2, or other equipment t2. You get the idea. Originally by: HippoKing YES! i am in antoher person;s sig /marks it off taking over the world one sig at a time \o/ DPS Sheet
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.18 12:32:00 - [28] Originally by: JoCool Make it a mini Megathron 5x t2 medium blasters 1x Mwd 1x medium cap booster 1x warp scrambler 2x medium armor repairers 2x hardeners 1x whatever 10x medium drones Even with the cap booster, it wouldn't work.. you would be out of cap too quickly. One of the main problems with the rax has been over looked, and that was and still is the most cap intensive cruiser. Before the small guns/1600mm plate revolution people did indeed fit medium guns to their rax.. but, they well died pretty quickly due to the lack of cap.. the dual mwd rax and small guns was a lot of fun.. but was impractical .. "wooosh i move fast... can't hit anything.. but woosh." So for the majority the rax was the best mining cruiser in the game.. as with a little bit of squeezing, you could fit 5 whole miner 2's.. and so the rax became the ninja miner of choice. For a long while people would ask for a rax set up.. and the responce of "Fit miner 2's" was the reply.. and this was when you could carry 10 heavy drones.. then came the plate revolution. And the rax started to get some major use.. The idea at first, seemed like a joke, until Nafri mentioned how the plate rax was then more and more people started to be turned around to the idea.. the Duramaller was also seen as a great choice.. and after it came to light, that duramaller .. could eat a rax for lunch it started to see more popularity for a short while, before becoming one of the best mission running ships in the game (pre lvl 4 missions.. when people used to lose battleships to the lvl 3 mordu's headhunters mission.) Now back to the present day, and the changes.. the rax, with its changes.. will be a pityful sight.. its never going to be the cheap deimos people think, its never going to be the mini-meg people hope. The changes are too little.. plus for all that, it still has the lowest amount of slots of any of the tier 3 cruisers. And lets not forget.. Before the changes Maller > Thorax.. After the changes Maller > Thorax while the maller is tanking several battleships.
iNs4ne	Posted - 2005.09.19 03:11:00 - [29] Originally by: Ravenge Originally by: JoCool Make it a mini Megathron 5x t2 medium blasters 1x Mwd 1x medium cap booster 1x warp scrambler 2x medium armor repairers 2x hardeners 1x whatever 10x medium drones Even with the cap booster, it wouldn't work.. you would be out of cap too quickly. One of the main problems with the rax has been over looked, and that was and still is the most cap intensive cruiser. Do you keep MWD'ing after reaching target? o.O Coz at decent skill level i think you can keep those reps going long by using charges...

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