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Catullus
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Posted - 2005.09.17 22:57:00 -
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I write this as a reply by an ordinary Amarr to the propaganda of the mongrel "liberationist" races of the universe. Surely even your less developed minds can see that the domination of the universe by the Empire is pre-ordained and inevitable.
Our Imperial archaeologists and historians have proved that the gods brought forth the Amarr to civilise the barbarian races. Our theologians have shown us that the
gods are Amarrian. It is our duty to help you barbarians to accept the blessed covenant of slavery.
For those that joyfully put on the holy shackles of service we can march together to the sunlit uplands of an Imperial paradise.
To my fellow Amarr I say we are the chosen people! Do not allow yourselves to use the inferior technologies of the criminal empires. Buy more slaves and boost their price. Sell slaves in areas that the cleansing might of the Empire has yet to reach. Make the slave economy profitable for others by selling low and buying high, so that even the lower races trade slaves. In this way we can sa***uard our divine right of overlordship and spread the freedom of slavery throughout the universe.
Our heritage is pure, our legions are invincible, our Empire is eternal!
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Camar
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Posted - 2005.09.17 23:23:00 -
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Our theologians have shown us that the
gods are Amarrian.
Would you by this state YOU are a God?
It also indicates you have SEVERAL gods, would that also be correct?
Somehow I doubt this will fall in good grace with your priesthood 
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Jinxed Idol
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Posted - 2005.09.17 23:23:00 -
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Another slaver propaganda tool enters the fray.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.09.17 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Camar
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Our theologians have shown us that the
gods are Amarrian.
Would you by this state YOU are a God?
It also indicates you have SEVERAL gods, would that also be correct?
Somehow I doubt this will fall in good grace with your priesthood
It's a shame that a terrorist can lecture an Amarr. Maybe you should have stayed a bit longer in school.
Oh, I see you're from the Royal Amarr Institute. Is Tilkk Hettad your teacher?
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.09.18 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jinxed Idol
Another slaver propaganda tool enters the fray.
When the Amarr say something, it's a propaganda tool.
When the U'K say something, it's the truth.
That's an interesting perspective you have there.
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Former Slave
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Posted - 2005.09.18 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Catullus
Surely even your less developed minds can see that the domination of the universe by the Empire is pre-ordained and inevitable.
No. |
Calderio
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Posted - 2005.09.18 05:04:00 -
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god and his angels has shown himself to the ammar time and time again
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it is threw devine sanction that the amarr and its peoples gain there right to rule.
by creating the institution of slavery the amarrians are able to cultivate the lesser races of new eden into something that is better than what they were before.
all one needs to do is look at the minmatar to see the truth of this.
threwout time the human race has seen the effects of slavery. when all is told the truth is we are all slaves, whether it be to holder, empire, or egger corperation. it is the human way to bend itself to the will of others or to be the one that rules.
it is threw the enslavment of the lesser race's that we are able make them flourish and grow into a rose
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.09.18 11:18:00 -
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In defense of slavery - 6 120mm paramilitary gauss cannon emplacements and 4 thermtek ground-to-air missile batterys.
Come near my slaves, and these guns WILL defend them.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.09.18 11:31:00 -
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Slavey doesn't need defending. |
Franx
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Posted - 2005.09.18 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Franx on 18/09/2005 11:33:32
Originally by: Catullus
Our Imperial archaeologists and historians have proved that the gods brought forth the Amarr to civilise the barbarian races.
Wrong.
It is a common fact that the Amarr enslaved the Minmatar a long time ago. Thats it. No God or anything else has been proven, It is simply a case or the Amarrians having the 'biggest stick' at the time.
Even if your god was involved, why could he not keep you in your position of power at that time? Why couldn't he save you from a kicking at the boots of the Jovians, and Minmatar? In quick Succession? Sounds like a pretty impotent god to me.
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Our theologians have shown us that the
gods are Amarrian.
Wrong again. Theology is based on religious theories that try to explain why things happen. Wether you believe in them or not, they are not hard, concrete facts.
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It is our duty to help you barbarians to accept the blessed covenant of slavery.
It is your desire to subjegate whole races to do work that you are too lazy to do yourself, and too tightfisted to pay someone to do.
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spread the freedom of slavery throughout the universe.
 Quite an oxymoron there.
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Our heritage is pure, our legions are invincible, our Empire is eternal!
Your heritage is steeped in greed, your legions recieved an aforementioned kicking by the Jovians and Matari, and no empire ever lasts.
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Jinxed Idol
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Posted - 2005.09.18 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
When the Amarr say something, it's a propaganda tool.
When the U'K say something, it's the truth.
That's an interesting perspective you have there.
Exactly
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.09.18 13:04:00 -
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Hmm, from the title of this message, I suddenly assumed someone had come up with a concrete and meaningful way to state slavery was a good thing for all. Instead I fin a couple of paragraphs of the usual drivle and unsubstanciated propoganda.
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Surely even your less developed minds can see that the domination of the universe by the Empire is pre-ordained and inevitable.
And this is in defence of slavery... how?
That argument only works when your actions prove it right... Jove war? Minmatar Rebelion?
(Oops, I said them again.)
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Our theologians have shown us that the
gods are Amarrian.
Now, even a lowly barbarian like me knows that the Amarr have only one god. Not a list of them.
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For those that joyfully put on the holy shackles of service we can march together to the sunlit uplands of an Imperial paradise.
Until I see these so called 'joyful shackles' around your hands and kneck, you have no right to claim them as such.
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To my fellow Amarr I say we are the chosen people! Do not allow yourselves to use the inferior technologies of the criminal empires. Buy more slaves and boost their price. Sell slaves in areas that the cleansing might of the Empire has yet to reach. Make the slave economy profitable for others by selling low and buying high, so that even the lower races trade slaves. In this way we can sa***uard our divine right of overlordship and spread the freedom of slavery throughout the universe
And here I thought the Amarr were supposed to be enslaving people to bring them 'into the light', but it sounds to me like you are more interested in making money. Is the whole Amarr empire in it for the money then, and the whole 'enlightenment' thing is just a lie? Say it isn't so.
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Catullus
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Posted - 2005.09.18 14:05:00 -
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My dear Franx and Mr Shaker (are they your slave names) I understand your frustration. My slaves feel the same when I enlighten them.
You speak of hard facts. Facts are only facts if you believe them. Who wrote this history you speak of - The Minmatar and Jovians? It is only deviation from the divine path that allowed the Jovians and Minmatar to emerge. Our divinity punished our sins with these earthly trials.
Unfortunately Mr. Shaker we live in an earthly realm so we must use earthly tools such as the slave trade to spread and deepen Amarr culture.
The freedom of slavery - if you are a slave you are free from all worries, in a state of service where your kind overseer looks after all your wants.
I have a spare pair of leg irons if you would like to repent.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.09.18 17:02:00 -
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You speak of hard facts. Facts are only facts if you believe them.
You miss the point entirely. Your post wasn't even worthy of being called attempted facts. Wrong or otherwise. Truth is always in the eye of the beholder, but you posted neither the truth or a lie. Just the same old tripe.
And if truth is in the eye of the beholder, why did you try and defend something to those that would se it destroyed, namely us, armed only with that is true for you?
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Who wrote this history you speak of - The Minmatar and Jovians?
Well, actually, yes. History is writen by the victors. But I doubt the losers version differs that much either. Unless the Amarr population is completely blind. I always thought that to be a genetic trait in the Brutor personally.
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It is only deviation from the divine path that allowed the Jovians and Minmatar to emerge. Our divinity punished our sins with these earthly trials.
So... enslaving the whole of the Minmatar and trying the same thing with the Jove was essentially the wrong way of going about it all? And God punished you with a loss for it? Guess you all have been reading the wrong scriptures all along then. When can we expect you to release all slaves in the Amarr empire then since your God, by your own logic, finds such actions as punishable?
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The freedom of slavery - if you are a slave you are free from all worries, in a state of service where your kind overseer looks after all your wants.
So Vitoc is not a worry then? And what of the want to be free? Spare me the answer actually. I have heard it all before like 'They don't deserve freedom' and so on. But as was said before, truth and fact are subjective and in the eye of the behlolder.
Care for another dance on this endless merry-go-round?
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.09.18 17:22:00 -
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Both Minmatar AND Amarr are wrong. If you are strong enough to enslave someone, do it. 'Right' and 'wrong' are only tools of the weak, they don't exist.
Nobody is a slave or master because of 'divine right' or othersuch nonsense. I am a master, and so are you Darius, because we are better than the weak slaves. You rose up against your masters - you deserve freedom. Slaves expect someone else to save them, therefore they should rot in shackles.
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Nicholas Celeres
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Posted - 2005.09.19 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Celeres on 19/09/2005 13:55:04
Economy is the division of the wealthy and poor, from the resourceful and those that are not, from the generous and the greedy, from the noble and the parasite.
Improve human rights, and allow slavery to flourish in the name of the empire. Amatuers compete, professionals create.
Edit: Typo.
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Yarod Cool
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Posted - 2005.09.19 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
Both Minmatar AND Amarr are wrong. If you are strong enough to enslave someone, do it. 'Right' and 'wrong' are only tools of the weak, they don't exist.
That's actually what some Ammarians have said. And of course, the "Practicals" or Exploiters among us Caldari. It's sad that anyone believes this.
--Yarod Cool
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Demadred
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Posted - 2005.09.19 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
Both Minmatar AND Amarr are wrong. If you are strong enough to enslave someone, do it. 'Right' and 'wrong' are only tools of the weak, they don't exist.
Finally someone with some brains.
Why don't use slaves when there's a big profit in it?
I'm going to get a nice cattle of Ammar slaves.
I'm not (yet) powerfull but give me time and i get there.
Slaves,drugs,killing and whatever is nessecary, i will use it.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2005.09.19 21:48:00 -
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So many with the end justifies the means aproaches, so few remembering that the means designate the end.
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Haanem ulwei, utnazhiram Hal'sha'roh mahiraam Hor'thul.
The Universe is everything, the creation Hal'shah and the destruction Hor'thul.
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lythos miralbar
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Posted - 2005.09.21 14:21:00 -
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I myself have a small number of slaves, amarian ones to be exact.
Although it did take some time for them to get it into thier heads that they werent a superior race. Eventualy they accepted they were now slaves to in thier eyes an inferior race.
Thier beliefs in thier god and place in the universe were quite strong to start with, but a few months of cleaning toilets and unblocking refuge shoots soon got rid of that notion.
They are quite profitable and now my paid crew dont have to do the really nasty jobs. This imporves thier moral which means they work better, therefore they are more efficient and hence things run a bit smoother.
This all equates to time saved and time = isk..
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.09.21 18:57:00 -
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Slavery always has been, and will be, obsolete. I have stated the reasons many times already, but so many people just don't listen. It's one thing to see other races with slaves. They're not Caldari, they simply don't understand business that well, but any sensible Caldari knows that you will get the most for your ISK using drones and machines in place of slaves. My cruiser is kept running mainly by the use of drones, and I've had to replace very few of them. These drones cost more at first, but have already been in use long enough to have made them more cost effective than several slaves per drone. Also, these drones do not need food, clothing, sleep, or protection to go into space, a slave would.
Now let's be reasonable and honest. Most of you only use slaves because you can. Your egos won't allow the use of machines, and you know it. I pity you people, for like your out-dated use of slaves, you too shall become obsolete one day. Your slaves will most likely one day rise against you when their liberators come. My machines wil never do such a thing, and I would wager one of them works far better than several of your best slaves.
Give up your archaic practice you fools, or will only help your downfall. If it brings you any comfort, you would most likely not be the first empire to be beaten by those you find inferior.
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Nauta Starbane
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Posted - 2005.09.22 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Nauta Starbane on 22/09/2005 03:21:09
silly amarr.
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Bonaventure Augustus
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Posted - 2005.09.22 03:22:00 -
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A Galnet search function would show that I have long held one belief in regards to the connection between my people's slavery and the Amarr faith...
If the god of the Amarr exists, he created the Minmatar to destroy the decadance of the Empire, not to serve it.
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.09.22 06:16:00 -
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Lets see if I can dumb this down enough for these heathens.
God exists. Those people who do not follow Him are heathens. Heathens are condemned people, living in a manner that is against the natural order of things.
Amarr is faithfull to Him. They serve His justice to those who betrayed Him. But Amarr is also merciful. Rather than mete out the heathen populace's justly deserved death sentence for their many crimes against God, Amarr has taken those heathens in under its wing in an attempt to redeem them. This is called slavery by the modern gallente influenced world. As Amarran slavery (only Amarran mind you) is an act of mercy against a populace already guilty of the highest crimes possible, there is absolutely no rational argument that would justify an attack on those who are merciful enough to try to save a race of condemned criminals rather than trying to save them.
God exists, he is evident in everything you have ever experienced. Anyone who cannot see this, knows nothing.
God is with us. |
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