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Veskrashen	Posted - 2005.09.19 12:43:00 - [61] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Damn eve-o propaganda, we need forum mercenaries! Now *that* is an interesting proposition. I should mention it to Jade and Company...
Mustafa Wilson	Posted - 2005.09.19 13:08:00 - [62] Originally by: NightHaunt Only 1 point to make on this, and please undestand its not smack Only 4 of the five`s 7 corps are activly involved in clearing cache ... 1, 4, 5, 7 ... too much math. Just shoot, already.
Netto	Posted - 2005.09.19 20:24:00 - [63] Originally by: Minmatar Vengance ASCN are carebear hobbits. Like a hobbit said in LOTR : 'Doesn't consern us what is going out outside our borders'. LOL! That's great :). I even like it! Because, taking your hobbit comparison even further, it was the hobbit who, in the end, "wtfpwn'd" the big bad guy. So, morale of the story is, don't **** off the hobbits. Heheh, I have to figure out a hobbit sig now. :) Netto
Gierling	Posted - 2005.09.19 21:54:00 - [64] I was gonna insult em some more... but damn that capitalist horseradish comment really got to me. I'm gonna have to go cry in my arkanor instead. Bastards we are lest Bastards we become.
Komolov	Posted - 2005.09.20 00:07:00 - [65] Excellent post. 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five for their losses occured these days. RA does not consider you as natural enemy but since you're feeding [5]'s war machine you became a target. Do not help [5] and we can cooperate in helping you to kill the roids you like (privacy protection guaranteed). 2. RA can not gather biggest blobs in EVE but RA fighting and fighting good. Do not expect them to give up. We can't kill all 13 POSes in one system? Not a problem - we can capture 5's station easily in another one just by installing 3 towers. 3. Warm welcome and best wishes to NBSI in GW. Don't hesistate to contact me if you'll need any kind of help. Same wishes to PA pilots in they'll visit South one day. -------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B
nitr0s	Posted - 2005.09.20 00:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Komolov 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs.
Stormfront	Posted - 2005.09.20 00:48:00 - [67] As I said before. People whine to us for considering others "slaves".. when we hardly ever use that word. Its the Russians who have used it the most followed by some IMP and CELES pilots.
nitr0s	Posted - 2005.09.20 00:51:00 - [68] Originally by: Stormfront As I said before. People whine to us for considering others "slaves".. when we hardly ever use that word. Its the Russians who have used it the most followed by some IMP and CELES pilots. Anyway it is used by anyone is insulting to many ppl and a reminder of how racial predijucial players are and can be. Using such a term is racial slander and should be intollerable to most polite company.
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2005.09.20 00:56:00 - [69] the slave trade is still around today and effects all colours and creeds. the word is stupid in this game and has no place but i wouldnt consider it insulting for just one group. STAN FACTA NON VERBA BRING BACK MMO CASINO
Cartiff	Posted - 2005.09.20 01:51:00 - [70] has the world gone mad??, ITS A GAME!! Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
Stormfront	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:15:00 - [71] Quote: has the world gone mad??, ITS A GAME!! What are you on about?
Netto	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:53:00 - [72] Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Komolov 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. Sex slave, slave to my job, I slaved in the yard yesterday, etc. etc. To suggest the term "slave" be applied only as "racial" is ridiculous. Every race on this planet has been enslaved at some point or another. Is it the correct term for what these minor corporations are? Arguable, but it's semantics at the very best. But that's COMPLETELY off topic. I for one, am terribly amused at how the reds are using diplomatic relations to help them in their war. I mean, they should and it's smart, but.. but.. Oh man. Netto
nitr0s	Posted - 2005.09.20 02:57:00 - [73] Originally by: Netto Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Komolov 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. Sex slave, slave to my job, I slaved in the yard yesterday, etc. etc. To suggest the term "slave" be applied only as "racial" is ridiculous. Every race on this planet has been enslaved at some point or another. Is it the correct term for what these minor corporations are? Arguable, but it's semantics at the very best. But that's COMPLETELY off topic. I for one, am terribly amused at how the reds are using diplomatic relations to help them in their war. I mean, they should and it's smart, but.. but.. Oh man. Netto Thats all well and good. BUT, the context is refering to ppl 'being' 'slaves' by working in an area of space (how is that different than a plantation) and another group is their master. Just because every race as been subject to it doesnt make it right either. It is like trying to prove a negative by your logic which is inherently false. I take it as racism, which it is.
Hoozin	Posted - 2005.09.20 03:24:00 - [74] Originally by: nitr0s Thats all well and good. BUT, the context is refering to ppl 'being' 'slaves' by working in an area of space (how is that different than a plantation) and another group is their master. Just because every race as been subject to it doesnt make it right either. It is like trying to prove a negative by your logic which is inherently false. I take it as racism, which it is. You are taking offence because you can, not because it's offensive. The term slave existed long before the lines on the current world map were drawn. I'll assume you've written the EVE-O devs several times now on the backstory of the Minmatar being slaves to the Amarr for so long. On the topic of this post, everywhere I look I see the "Cold War" that perhaps CCP was intending with the release of the aptly named patch. For the last 6 months, people have been waiting for the largest war in the history of EVE to break out. Only rivaled by the clash between the Gallente Federation and the Caldari State all those years ago. The fragile peace we now endured is ... exactly that - fragile. Over the course of those six months, small wars have broken out and then fallen to nothingness. BoB vs. FA. The Northern Alliances playing chess with space. BoB vs. Imp and those groups. Even as far back as [5] invading (if that is the right word) the Southern regions and taking control of them with very little consequence. Most recently, the SA-SE conflict, however trivial it may seem to outsiders, had the potential to shatter the peace enjoyed by all. Only through the diplomatic negotiations of several skilled individuals at the top of several alliances did it not. Yes, EVE is on the brink of a "World War" of sorts. Perhaps the term, "A war to end all wars" would fit better, however I doubt such a thing actually exists (esp. in a PVP centric game). As Minmatar Vengeance states, there is a significant likelihood of Omist being the powder keg that sets off this great war, however I doubt it. There is still much chess to be played, before the major alliances start putting each other in Check in hopes of finally getting to Checkmate. I can't say I know enough about any of the alliances now standing to say who will ally with who or where they will stand, or most importantly, who comes out on top, but there won't be a single one left out when the **** hits the fan. --------------------------------- I got nerfed. I'm a carebear now?
Kyriel	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:27:00 - [75] Originally by: nitr0s Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. Instead of playing the race card, why not do something more useful like analyze the nature of the relationship between the Five and its 'feeder' corporations.
Adhamhnon	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:37:00 - [76] My anscestry is Irish/Scottish and my people were enslaved by the Roman Empire!!! I take offence to the term slave!!!! Oh wait, that's not related to the current topic about a GAME. Good thing I have common sense and remembered that.
David Corbett	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:41:00 - [77] Indeed a far more relevant reference to history in this thread would be that before the Great War in real history... Dreadnoughts built up in a frantic arms race yet normally considered under force-in-keeping concepts, alliances covert and overt between major powers, distrust and intrigue, expansionism and territorialism... This could get very, very interesting.
Nuclear Option	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:48:00 - [78] Originally by: Kyriel Originally by: nitr0s Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. Instead of playing the race card, why not do something more useful like analyze the nature of the relationship between the Five and its 'feeder' corporations. Why dont you realise that besied being an asshat, you're an ignorant fool. All these corporations would otherwise have no access to 0.0 space and its advanced game play. Many of these corporations would be forced to join a gimped out alliance like PA and forced into the role of fodder for all their leaders big mouths. While in 5 sponsored space they can freely npc and do complexes with no cost to them. Do you know how many angel 10-10 complexes there are and how much isk can be gained by doing them? How about all the northern corporations that pay taxes to IRON? Are they slaves as well? Or are they slaves dependant on your political view? As for the russians, yeah whatever. They are currently a homeless vagabond alliance forced to split their miners off the alliance in a meaker attempt at survival. To suggest otherwise shows total ignorance. Their only fighters are RAT, who's ticker is very apt I might add. Oh wait, I forgot, RAT arent RA, just ike ASUYA and Arcane Industries arent FIX. Meh, carry on with your fairytale. Next time I suggest you post it in the IC section where this fiction belongs.
Memphis Raines	Posted - 2005.09.20 06:29:00 - [79] Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Komolov 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. Being an American (not an Irish-American nor German-American or even a Euro-American) I resent you using such terminology. Unless you were born and raised in Africa you're nothing but an American. Way to segregate yourself. GG.
Krapz	Posted - 2005.09.20 06:30:00 - [80] Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Netto Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Komolov 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. Sex slave, slave to my job, I slaved in the yard yesterday, etc. etc. To suggest the term "slave" be applied only as "racial" is ridiculous. Every race on this planet has been enslaved at some point or another. Is it the correct term for what these minor corporations are? Arguable, but it's semantics at the very best. But that's COMPLETELY off topic. I for one, am terribly amused at how the reds are using diplomatic relations to help them in their war. I mean, they should and it's smart, but.. but.. Oh man. Netto Thats all well and good. BUT, the context is refering to ppl 'being' 'slaves' by working in an area of space (how is that different than a plantation) and another group is their master. Just because every race as been subject to it doesnt make it right either. It is like trying to prove a negative by your logic which is inherently false. I take it as racism, which it is. And that is why you sir/mam are in idiot. Get out of my GAME and my hobby!!!! And take all your soft ego and wittle feewings back into the real world! Maybe go petition a REAL LIFE person, instead of coming in here and getting huffy over the term "slave" and how it relates to your undeveloped quasi-functioning mind. /thread. This whole thread sucked anyways. Just end it now. -- Insert cool graphics sig here --
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2005.09.20 06:44:00 - [81] Newsflash: Minmatar Vengance = Omeega Don't speak russian. F1,f2,f3...
Will Fireblade	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:01:00 - [82] Lets face it guys the Five dont have the strenght to keep of all old xetic space. If i was a new alliance i would go and get a piece of xetic space simply because its empty..
RatBoy Deblade	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:06:00 - [83] Being a carebear hobbit i can¦t see what rl slavery or politics have to do with a game? The enslaver/slavery story in eve between minnies and amarr is a perfect story for a big fight. Call me ignorant or whatever..game is game, el is rl. You have to learn to distiungsh between them (hard word, any english or us pls don¦t smash my grammar to much ) Anyway..ingame politics is always fun. Was better in the old days though there ingame alliances could smack eachother for days or forums to have a reason to kickstart a war. Tody you press f1,f2,f3 and claim you can¦t speak english Cya in the game folks!
Nuclear Option	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:10:00 - [84] Originally by: Will Fireblade Lets face it guys the Five dont have the strenght to keep of all old xetic space. If i was a new alliance i would go and get a piece of xetic space simply because its empty.. Lets face it you have the worst alliance name in Eve. Oh yeah, 3/5'ths of former XF space isnt owned by [5], I'd think even a dirt worshipper like you would know that.
Komolov	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:12:00 - [85] Edited by: Komolov on 20/09/2005 07:19:03 Originally by: Nuclear Option Why dont you realise that besied being an asshat, you're an ignorant fool. All these corporations would otherwise have no access to 0.0 space and its advanced game play. Many of these corporations would be forced to join a gimped out alliance like PA and forced into the role of fodder for all their leaders big mouths. While in 5 sponsored space they can freely npc and do complexes with no cost to them. Do you know how many angel 10-10 complexes there are and how much isk can be gained by doing them? How about all the northern corporations that pay taxes to IRON? Are they slaves as well? Or are they slaves dependant on your political view? As for the russians, yeah whatever. They are currently a homeless vagabond alliance forced to split their miners off the alliance in a meaker attempt at survival. To suggest otherwise shows total ignorance. Their only fighters are RAT, who's ticker is very apt I might add. Oh wait, I forgot, RAT arent RA, just ike ASUYA and Arcane Industries arent FIX. Meh, carry on with your fairytale. Next time I suggest you post it in the IC section where this fiction belongs. Well rounded collection of lies. Let's examine them carefully. First of all next time please post from your original character with corp and alliance names displayed. Anyway your expression "big mouths" tells everything about your roots. 1. Instead of being "fodder for all their leaders big mouths" sponsored slaves became cannon fodder in the war they didn't start. Good info here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=220388 Quote: Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies PA pilots doing "advanced game play" too. And free of charge of course except standard tax on conquerable stations refine. And RA pilots too. And many pilots of many other alliances. So where's advantage? "Sponsored by" still slaves who don't have rights to speak out or they'll be kicked, KOSed, poded and whatever. This is the difference. Contrary to that PA and RA are different form of democracies where everyone can speak out. Unfortunately contrary to 5's warmonger these democracies can not work perfectly without glitches but anyway being free is better than being "sponsored" slave of excellently working dictatorship. 2. "As for the russians, yeah whatever. They are currently a homeless vagabond alliance"... You just showed that you're exactly same "ignorant fool" like you disrespectefuly called other poster. First of all RA is not pure Russian alliance. It have a lot of nationalities inside and many people in RA aren't from Russia and not Russians by nationality. Never write RA=RAT. Many people (escpecially The Five's pilots after loosing another ship) like to mix up RAT and RA. It is very convinient in many occasions. But RAT is not fighting for RA and rarely fighting along with RA! They don't have common lists of friends and enemies with RA. They have own agenda. So don't play an idiot. I believe you perfectly know that difference. Edit: And atm we own same amount of conquerable stations like for example PA does. Hardly seems to be "homeless". -------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B
Will Fireblade	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:14:00 - [86] Originally by: Nuclear Option Originally by: Will Fireblade Lets face it guys the Five dont have the strenght to keep of all old xetic space. If i was a new alliance i would go and get a piece of xetic space simply because its empty.. Lets face it you have the worst alliance name in Eve. Oh yeah, 3/5'ths of former XF space isnt owned by [5], I'd think even a dirt worshipper like you would know that. Sorry say what? is that your personal opinion on the matter? Are you a member of the Five? Why are you smack talking did i say something wrong?
Nuclear Option	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:16:00 - [87] Originally by: Komolov Originally by: Nuclear Option Why dont you realise that besied being an asshat, you're an ignorant fool. All these corporations would otherwise have no access to 0.0 space and its advanced game play. Many of these corporations would be forced to join a gimped out alliance like PA and forced into the role of fodder for all their leaders big mouths. While in 5 sponsored space they can freely npc and do complexes with no cost to them. Do you know how many angel 10-10 complexes there are and how much isk can be gained by doing them? How about all the northern corporations that pay taxes to IRON? Are they slaves as well? Or are they slaves dependant on your political view? As for the russians, yeah whatever. They are currently a homeless vagabond alliance forced to split their miners off the alliance in a meaker attempt at survival. To suggest otherwise shows total ignorance. Their only fighters are RAT, who's ticker is very apt I might add. Oh wait, I forgot, RAT arent RA, just ike ASUYA and Arcane Industries arent FIX. Meh, carry on with your fairytale. Next time I suggest you post it in the IC section where this fiction belongs. Well rounded collection of lies. Let's examine them carefully. First of all next time please post from your original character with corp and alliance names displayed. Anyway your expression "big mouths" tells everything about your roots. 1. Instead of being "fodder for all their leaders big mouths" sponsored slaves became cannon fodder in the war they didn't start. Good info here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=220388 Quote: Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies PA pilots doing "advanced game play" too. And free of charge of course except standard tax on conquerable stations refine. And RA pilots too. And many pilots of many other alliances. So where's advantage? "Sponsored by" still slaves who don't have rights to speak out or they'll be kicked, KOSed, poded and whatever. This is the difference. Contrary to that PA and RA are different form of democracies where everyone can speak out. Unfortunately contrary to 5's warmonger these democracies can not work perfectly without glitches but anyway being free is better than being "sponsored" slave of excellently working dictatorship. 2. "As for the russians, yeah whatever. They are currently a homeless vagabond alliance"... You just showed that you're exactly same "ignorant fool" like you disrespectefuly called other poster. First of all RA is not pure Russian alliance. It have a lot of nationalities inside and many people in RA aren't from Russia and not Russians by nationality. Never write RA=RAT. Many people (escpecially The Five's pilots after loosing another ship) like to mix up RAT and RA. It is very convinient in many occasions. But RAT is not fighting for RA and rarely fighting along with RA! They don't have common lists of friends and enemies with RA. They have own agenda. So don't play an idiot. I believe you perfectly know that difference. Thats a great fairy tale you just told there. One day when the glue runs out you might see reality. I cant be bothered to refute you're pooly quoted rubbish as you cant even figure how to format a post. RA=RAT F1,F2,FU
Komolov	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:22:00 - [88] Edited by: Komolov on 20/09/2005 07:26:58 I'm formatting my posts in the way i prefer. Keep discussion polite or be ejected by mods. I see you don't have any arguments on topic except some cheap insults. -------------------- Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Komolov FSP-B
The Medusa	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:19:00 - [89] Originally by: nitr0s Originally by: Komolov 1. My condolences to the slaves of The Five Being an african-american I resent you using such terminology. An online game is no place to use racial slurs. nitr0s, no offence, but you need to check the history of Eve. I know this is a no roleplay thread, but anyway.. Immensea are filled with Angel Cartell NPC's. Angel Cartell are the once infiltrateing the Minmatar space. Minmatars are per-see a race of people that have been kept as slaves by the Amarr. The Amarr people are filty, ugly and they are religous fanatics. The Minmatars are proud people with lots of guns.. yea.. the biggest guns there is.. And the tempests 1400mm'rs rip through the weak hull of amarr slavetradeingships every day.. I mean.. I have slaves in my hangars around (there should be an option called 'Free Slave' on the slaves you get, so they change into 'Free Men', and move out of ya hangar). If you check the timeline of EVE, you will see that Amarr still trade in slaves. Amarr police don't bother and find slavery acceptable. Amarr Roleplayers play hardline slavetraders, and Minmatar Roleplayers oppose them. (Pie vs Paratwa RA.. as an example.) www.ii-inc.org Your prefered Tech2 dealer.
Omeega	Posted - 2005.09.20 08:50:00 - [90] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Newsflash: Minmatar Vengance = Omeega lol. 5sec fame time \o/ Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...

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