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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
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Posted - 2013.04.18 14:45:00 -
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yay for watching more Goons kill other goons in newbships for an entire weekend!
Last time it was actually safer for a non-goon than it was on a normal day, since the only ppl the goons were really targetting was other goons...in newbships...just to get the number of ship kills up to make it look scary.
Bring it on, and i'll still move stuff in and out of Jita, and be just as safe as normal.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8713
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:00:00 -
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Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? 
Structure timers.
Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.
Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Akinesis
CRIMSON ASSAULT
Brotherhood of the Kebab
22
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:04:00 -
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If it makes news for people outiside of EvE to read, I see it only as a good thing really. It's advertisement at the end of the day, regardless of whether you wear a tinfoil hat on Burn Jita's true meaning. The Goons will always get people's backs up, but that annoyance extends a lot further than Goonswarm. They just have huge numbers and dedicated management to organise things like this. Meh |
Da Dom
Wii R
48
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.
Rotfl. Smartarse
I suppose your right. No-one is smart enough to attack them. There will be no BURN NULL
If your liberty is won by others then you are not free, you are merely protected. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood |
Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1390
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:18:00 -
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Akinesis wrote:It's advertisement at the end of the day,...
isn't there some turn of phrase along the lines of "no press is bad press"?
I'd honestly be more impressed if the carebears in Halaima would (FINALLY) band together, and stand up against James315 et. al. (and obviously, after subjecting carebears to the same dec-shedding ***** [carebears] do for a while, stick around and fight) Would make for good stories all around (not to mention more people "getting" eve)... or at least I think anyway.
I'm unfortunately nowhere near as good with the rhetoric as others, so I doubt I'd be anywhere approaching "successful" with this myself... though, if I had a proper propaganda director, maybe it could work.
I'm gonna go roll an alt and see what's what tonight.
edit -- self censor so ISD/GMs don't get upset
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Kleesama
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:22:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:yay for watching more Goons kill other goons in newbships for an entire weekend!
Last time it was actually safer for a non-goon than it was on a normal day, since the only ppl the goons were really targetting was other goons...in newbships...just to get the number of ship kills up to make it look scary.
Bring it on, and i'll still move stuff in and out of Jita, and be just as safe as normal.
In a freighter, right? |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:25:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:I'd honestly be more impressed if the carebears in Halaima would (FINALLY) band together, and stand up against James315 et. al. (and obviously, after subjecting carebears to the same dec-shedding ***** [carebears] do for a while, stick around and fight) Would make for good stories all around (not to mention more people "getting" eve)... or at least I think anyway.
they don't have enough of an impact upon game play for any one to give two ***** about them. |
Akinesis
CRIMSON ASSAULT
Brotherhood of the Kebab
22
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:26:00 -
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Yup, no press is bad press. At the very least, events like this get EvE noticed to some extent or another. If it happens in HS, people make noise. I think I now understand what Goons mean when they say 'We do this, because we love you!'. Eve gets noticed, so people are more inclined to try it out. Some of them will stay, some will leave. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
380
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Posted - 2013.04.18 16:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.
I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null?
This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case. |
Ted McManfist
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.04.18 17:22:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:yay for watching more Goons kill other goons in newbships for an entire weekend!
Last time it was actually safer for a non-goon than it was on a normal day, since the only ppl the goons were really targetting was other goons...in newbships...just to get the number of ship kills up to make it look scary.
Rrrrrrrriiiiight. That's exactly what we did last year.
May be time to up your medication, you might be delusional. |
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1253
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Posted - 2013.04.18 18:21:00 -
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Tank Talbot wrote:Understand, I mean no offense to anyone and I support the idea of emergent game play based on what players do. ThatGÇÖs the point of this question and post in a way from a new player perspective. I am honestly curious. Why doesnGÇÖt the Caldari State and Concord fight back the coming goon invasion of Jita? I mean I thought EVE was supposed to FEEL REAL and here is one of the most powerful factions in the game, the Caldari State, EVEGÇÖs greatest capitalist nation, playing dead when their largest trade hub comes under attack from what looks to be a 0.0 barbarian horde intent on a terrorist action? lol... 
Because, Tank, like everyone outside these Forums and the Goonies, the Caldari State and CONCORD couldn't care less.
But the Forums and Goonies need their herp-derp to feel like they are relevant.
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
419
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Posted - 2013.04.18 19:49:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work. I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null? This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.
A hypothetical highsec army could have arranged this. If they started dropping SBUs and reinforcing structures prior to any planned event in Jita, they could have timed it so we would have had to leave some people in nullsec to clean up the mess. |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
211
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Posted - 2013.04.19 13:03:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Tank Talbot wrote:Understand, I mean no offense to anyone and I support the idea of emergent game play based on what players do. ThatGÇÖs the point of this question and post in a way from a new player perspective. I am honestly curious. Why doesnGÇÖt the Caldari State and Concord fight back the coming goon invasion of Jita? I mean I thought EVE was supposed to FEEL REAL and here is one of the most powerful factions in the game, the Caldari State, EVEGÇÖs greatest capitalist nation, playing dead when their largest trade hub comes under attack from what looks to be a 0.0 barbarian horde intent on a terrorist action? lol... Because, Tank, like everyone outside these Forums and the Goonies, the Caldari State and CONCORD couldn't care less. But the Forums and Goonies need their herp-derp to feel like they are relevant.
Last year you were all unsure and nervous. This year your're all just bitter. I LOVE IT.
http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Bloody Wench
313
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Posted - 2013.04.19 13:08:00 -
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Will there be fofofo? |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2013.04.19 13:26:00 -
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Goons done killed mahpaaaa, raped mahsistuhh, dendey skinned and donewore oldDawg as a hat!
Deys some heartless fools, ain't nobody got time for that. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1763
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Posted - 2013.04.19 14:07:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work. I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null? This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.
The theory falls down when you realize "highsec" doesn't have a supercapital force capable of denting the hundreds of millions of hitpoints needed to even get that far, and any sub-cap fleet will be cleared up by pretty much anyone.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
383
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Posted - 2013.04.19 14:13:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work. I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null? This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case. The theory falls down when you realize "highsec" doesn't have a supercapital force capable of denting the hundreds of millions of hitpoints needed to even get that far, and any sub-cap fleet will be cleared up by pretty much anyone.
Of course. I was mostly checking if I had the sov mecanic straight in my head but what about all the missioners/incursion people high dps ship? It's nowhere near capital/supercap dps but high sec has number on it's side if they actually pull off the miracle of working together no?
And of course, if those numbers are grinding tower one way or another, there is someone who would notice anyway... |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1764
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:15:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Of course. I was mostly checking if I had the sov mecanic straight in my head but what about all the missioners/incursion people high dps ship? It's nowhere near capital/supercap dps but high sec has number on it's side if they actually pull off the miracle of working together no?
And of course, if those numbers are grinding tower one way or another, there is someone who would notice anyway...
Well ok, outside of the laughable concept of some armada of faction battleships sailing off into 0.0 you might want to read this: http://themittani.com/features/discussion-primer-sov-warfare
It's a good intro to it.
For what it's worth a single moros will out-damage 20 faction battleships.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
290
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.
I mean if I was in Test leadership and bored for some trolling I'd either:
A. Go to Jita en mass just to mess with the Goons.
or
B. Invade Goon space forcing them to retract the event to fight in large space battles in null.
But seeing I'm not in Test leadership nor do I think they have the guts to take on the Goons even when their proverbial pants are down, Test will just do whatever test has been doing for the past several months instead and let the Goons do as they please.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Da Dom
Wii R
48
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:33:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Malcanis wrote:Da Dom wrote:So... While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space? Structure timers. Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work. I mean if I was in Test leadership and bored for some trolling I'd either: A. Go to Jita en mass just to mess with the Goons. or B. Invade Goon space forcing them to retract the event to fight in large space battles in null. But seeing I'm not in Test leadership nor do I think they have the guts to take on the Goons even when their proverbial pants are down, Test will just do whatever test has been doing for the past several months instead and let the Goons do as they please.
Yeah, but with the shakeup in the Null economy caused by the resource distribution change planned for odyssey, anything is possible...
If your liberty is won by others then you are not free, you are merely protected. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood |
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EvEa Deva
State War Academy
Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:18:00 -
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Think ill mine, sounds like more fun |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1961
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Posted - 2013.04.19 21:06:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:
I mean if I was in Test leadership and bored for some trolling I'd either:
A. Go to Jita en mass just to mess with the Goons.
and miss all the fun shooting at random hisec residents? lol, why would we wanna do that?
Captain Tardbar wrote:
or
B. Invade Goon space forcing them to retract the event to fight in large space battles in null.
"Large space battles" happens with or without Goons. More than 50% of combined worth of kills out of all New Eden happened from these battles in null. The worth of ships destroyed alone far outstrips any of the four regions of space (hisec, lowsec, null, wh). Invading the Goons won't trigger anything, it already happens.
Captain Tardbar wrote:
But seeing I'm not in Test leadership nor do I think they have the guts to take on the Goons even when their proverbial pants are down, Test will just do whatever test has been doing for the past several months instead and let the Goons do as they please.
and which part of this should we, Goons, or anyone cares again?
"I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |
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