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Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:23:00 - [1] - Quote I'm posting this on a noob char as don't want to be identified for shame reasons. This is not fake. I started (seriously) in January 2007. Had a char in Red Moon Rising but suspended account and didn't retake. Started doing missions and ended in a Raven doing L4. Nerf to missiles (cruise). Put drones to the Raven. Nerf to the missiles (again). Switched to Drake. Started to check the possibility to do L5. Trained for Nighthawk due to passive tank. Another nerf to missiles (last one). Trained Nighthawk. Started L5. Lost the NH in 2 weeks (800M with T2 rigs at that moment) in a 0.4 due to huge signature radius (I didn't see the probes in directional). Came back to L4. Thought "Empire is my place". All this time have followed training the main char of this account, and doing L4 with the Nighthawk (more effective than Dominix / Tengu / Raven / etc). After all these years, the main char of this account has > 102M SP. Actually he's only training for Logistics V (and, btw, next one will be Energy Emission Systems at V). In brief words, Basilisk. Have decided this as, doing Incursions when I'm not in university (and sometimes like now) I saw that the gangs are plenty of DPS but no so of Logis. After this, will keep training the industrial char (T1/T2 science & manufacturing char). First reason for upset of this game: EVE-CENTRAL. I study software engineering (only 1 year for finish) and made my own VB.NET 2010 program that pick up the XML's for prices in Jita (raw materials and final items). It makes calculations and show the best items in % of profit. Now, Eve-Central is "forbidden" (as long as one thing can be forbidden) by the EULA. This is the reason why I train a ME/PE/Invention/Manufacturing char in this account. In addition I have "TONS" of L4 items getting dust waiting to be reprocessed or sold depending the % of profit (like 10-15B ISK of those ones, depending the fluctuations of the market). And that without counting to reprocess a part of them and make the items that my program says I have to do for more profit. This is the last (and most recent) fail. I have tried other paths in the game. Even scamming. Actually it's a productive way of business (the most) but it's even more boring than mining (and you can imagine it how can be if you are Hulk pilot). All this with only 1 account, so you can imagine the profits with 2+ accounts. Yes, I'm one of those rare persons that having years in this game only have 1 account. And, btw, never bought a PLEX. Second fail. This char was created, in a starting point, for the moment that I finish the industrial / trade char (the end of this year) start training for wear an Avatar. Yes. A titan. I know they are kind of useless comparing old days, but I would want to be in one. You can call it megalomania. The second fail is the PVP. Yes. The funny part of the game. As you may have guessed, with 102M (and the largest branch is Spaceship Command) of SP I can wear a lot of things. To be precise, this: - T1: Until BS in Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar. Until BC in Amarr. Destroyers included. - T2: AF, HAC's, CommandShips, CovertOps. - T3: Tengu - Drones: until sentries. Gallente & Minma T2's. - Electronics: EW, can fit a Scorpion with warranties. - Guns: T2 railguns / Blasters / AC's. All large. - Missiles (all of them), torpedoes. But citadels (I don't have capital related skills). - Navigation: 4M (AccCont, AB, EvasMan, FuelConserv, WarpDriveOp) In addition, have trained for other things in SiSi if not skills in TQ, searching for that ship that allows me to do solo-pvp when I get bored in empire, either L4 or ultimately Incursions. Have tried (and lost) a lot of ships. All I can fit. Smalls... mediums... large... blues... yellows... whatever. You see my killboard of loses in Battleclinic and the first thing you think is "Is this a joke!?" You then go to see my skills in some web where uploaded some time ago (I had 95M at that moment) and you conclude "This char has to be fake". I even joined a PVP corp for trying to learn. Won't say the name for not being prosecuted by them or alts. It's not his fault. I was kicked of that corp for being useless for the matter. In literal words of the chief: "You are not able to PVP. No matter what you try. If we stay with you we lose our ships". And actually one of them was a 5-1 Basilisk, so was serious business. But well. Gave up. Followed with the carebear activities. BTW, a most part of this lost ships were in TQ. Being a carebear I can barely buy a Vindicator (fitted with T2's). You can imagine how upset I am (and how many ships I've lost). Why explain all this? Retake the point why I created this char. Avatar. Megalomania. -+-íPVP!? These days I'm seeing the threads for rebalance the BS's. I can't post there as have not entity for stating opinions (and don't like to troll or lie), as have lost almost all it can be lost (capital includeds in SiSi, as they give a reedemed packet with all the super-capitals). So, I gave up and assume I can't PVP. And, reached this state, I concluded: "Why I play? Every time I win a lot of ISK's I lose them with a new toy. To invite a friend and pay PLEXes for them until he got Vindi trained and come with me at HQ Incursions. Well. When I invite a friend to make funny things in the game (PVP), as the carebear activites are really boring, what we do!? With me will lose the ship. With a huge gang in 0.0 roams maybe he get fun, but BTW I will keep losing the ship. And for not being satisfied with PVP, as always get angry when I enter that topic, I leave the game". And, in addition, If I get tired of the game and I publish that I giveaway my assets / ISK's, they will think it's a scam (I always think it).
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:26:00 - [2] - Quote A last thing. You, CCP, have the reason for not being a lot of players. You forbid other things that can actually give us fun (see how the items fluctuate in the market, for example) in a global way. It's the thing that you make saying that Eve-Central is out of this world. You make the PVP, indeed, real PVP. Your system of risk-reward take out the most part of the fun for those that we can't go to low / null. If you only leave one funny thing in the game, and we are not able for practise as all the story with that thing can be written in one word (upset) "WHAT THE **** ARE WE DOING IN THE GAME!?".
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 1339	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:28:00 - [3] - Quote If you have no more use of your stuff, can I have it? Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 1615	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:28:00 - [4] - Quote Should you finally decide to leave, please consider sending your stuff to me. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 3169	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:31:00 - [5] - Quote In before the move to OOPE for being a 'I Quit' Thread. Also, I too can appropriate your belongings. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Drunken Bum 117	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:32:00 - [6] - Quote I once got out of the drunk tank and was too hungover to make it home. So i slept in a grassy spot in an alley. I woke up to an old italian man poking me with a cane asking if i was alright. I had a grape slurpee after that and it was amazing. Spare some change?-á
DEFIER ORILIS DEFIANCE FRENETIC REGIMENT 68	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:32:00 - [7] - Quote Hey there, totally understanding you here. Been playing since 2007 as well. DON'T QUIT. Keep your character and one day I promise you, you will want to come back. In the meantime, play Dust514. Make sure not to let your Corp office rental monthly fee drain your ISK. LOL... Good luck.
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 427	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:34:00 - [8] - Quote Obviously you didn't read the whole comments section on the dev blog about cache scraping. They are only going after the cheaters, not people who use Eve Mon and stuff like that. CCP Stillman has said several times in posts that nothing is really changing, only going after the cheaters, i.e. botters and so on. If you can use programs like EveMon and Eve-Central now, you still will be able to. removed inappropriate signature - CCP Eterne
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 1604	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:35:00 - [9] - Quote Giselle Garner wrote: Now, Eve-Central is "forbidden" (as long as one thing can be forbidden) by the EULA. I'm glad you're leaving, EVE doesn't need people as dumb as you are. Professional bad guys were unfortunately not available so instead they sent me. Voter response is quite good this time around: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qCaz2OlMecY/UWhTTh_NfFI/AAAAAAAAPOE/ryjfQkApycs/s1600/05.jpg
Captain Tardbar NEWB ALERT 289	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:36:00 - [10] - Quote Well maybe you should try try some frigate combat with red versus blue. Or maybe start a new account all together and join EVE university. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.

silens vesica Corsair Cartel 1345	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:38:00 - [11] - Quote Gimme yer stuffs. 'Cause I deserve it more than those others. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Singoth Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 173	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:38:00 - [12] - Quote The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude towards the problem. Less yappin', more zappin'!
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:38:00 - [13] - Quote DEFIER ORILIS wrote: Hey there, totally understanding you here. Been playing since 2007 as well. DON'T QUIT. Keep your character and one day I promise you, you will want to come back. In the meantime, play Dust514. Make sure not to let your Corp office rental monthly fee drain your ISK. LOL... Good luck. I don't have PS3. I approve what Anonymous did when CCP anounced it was not going to do it for PC. BTW, I don't like FPS's. There's only one game that I play in addition to this: LotRO. By the way, If in December decide for not re-pay the anual fee and leave the game, and don't receive a real useful advice in this thread, you will receive my assets / ISK. As the stupid posters over you have not said nothing of interest. To the above posters. **** YOU OFF!
Frank Millar 150	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:39:00 - [14] - Quote Leave or leave not. There is no thinking. [/yoda]
Rath Kelbore The Six-Pack Syndicate Hashashin Cartel 363	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:42:00 - [15] - Quote You will be pleased to hear that EVE Central isn't being banned by the EULA or any other document/entity. You wll be displeased to hear that you probably are bad at PVP. I am sorry I cannot help you. Seeing as the eve central thing was on the top of your list though, I hope you are not quitting now. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:50:00 - [16] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: Obviously you didn't read the whole comments section on the dev blog about cache scraping. They are only going after the cheaters, not people who use Eve Mon and stuff like that. CCP Stillman has said several times in posts that nothing is really changing, only going after the cheaters, i.e. botters and so on. If you can use programs like EveMon and Eve-Central now, you still will be able to. And to get the prices from the web and make whatever you want with them is not scraping? It's a good new, but however it's useless to win a lot of money if then I lose it all in PVP. You can find kind of interesting (as some posters in these forums seem to think) that we get a lot of iskies for then lose them in PVP, but I don't find anything funny in it. Call me practical... I get fun If I win combats, not If I always lose them. Karl Hobb wrote: Giselle Garner wrote: Now, Eve-Central is "forbidden" (as long as one thing can be forbidden) by the EULA. I'm glad you're leaving, EVE doesn't need people as dumb as you are. For unproductive and violent comments... please, go to the trash. Captain Tardbar wrote: Well maybe you should try try some frigate combat with red versus blue. Or maybe start a new account all together and join EVE university. What part of "have tried with all that I can try" have not understood? The frigates are included. I can afford a lot of them (I would not afford faction items for that), but always losing them makes me angry. I lost one ship due to Red making a mission had to set in yellow for picking up an item from a cargo (not the same corp of 2 chars and with the main I couldn't as was repairing standings) and when I jumped to a system there were 30 of that corp. And, BTW, RvB it's kind of annoying. It's the new school for PVP as before there were others. Nothing won't change for entering that or other one. Never. Singoth wrote: The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude towards the problem. OK. Now, please, come back to your work as Philosophy teacher.
Dalmont Delantee EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance 122	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:52:00 - [17] - Quote Bye - Have a good emo time and welcome back when you aren't emoing so much.
iskflakes 407	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:52:00 - [18] - Quote Rath Kelbore wrote: You will be pleased to hear that EVE Central isn't being banned by the EULA or any other document/entity, Are you sure? The latest dev responses say that cache scraping is totally illegal, but they super promise not to ban you for it, though you will absolutely get banned if you use it, unless you're doing something CCP likes, though obviously they can't tell you what that is. All clear? Good. -
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:52:00 - [19] - Quote Rath Kelbore wrote: You will be pleased to hear that EVE Central isn't being banned by the EULA or any other document/entity. You wll be displeased to hear that you probably are bad at PVP. I am sorry I cannot help you. Seeing as the eve central thing was on the top of your list though, I hope you are not quitting now. You haven't got the point. If I can win a lot of money is for then use it in PVP. The fact that EC isn't banned don't take out the fact that I will finish doing boring things in the game. As always I do something funny, I get angry.
Dalmont Delantee EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance 122	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:54:00 - [20] - Quote iskflakes wrote: Rath Kelbore wrote: You will be pleased to hear that EVE Central isn't being banned by the EULA or any other document/entity, Are you sure? The latest dev responses say that cache scraping is totally illegal, but they super promise not to ban you for it, though you will absolutely get banned if you use it, unless you're doing something CCP likes, though obviously they can't tell you what that is. All clear? Good. I think you can't read between the lines iskflakes. They said their focus is on totally different things than eve central type scrapes, they also said its always been against the EULA... sigh Emo quit as well if you can't cope with it.

Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 676	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:56:00 - [21] - Quote Buy cheaper ships and lose 100x as many, instead of one very expensive ship. By losing 100 ships, you become 100x better at PvP. Oh god.
WTFAMILOOKINGAT Horizon Research Group 31	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:57:00 - [22] - Quote Sorry to see you go OP, if you send me some stuff I'll tell you about this recurring dream I keep having. Pretty sure it predicts the future.
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3235	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:57:00 - [23] - Quote Giselle Garner wrote: Your system of risk-reward take out the most part of the fun for those that we can't go to low / null. Well ... ... CCP doesn't seem to care about the incapable. Too bad, hu ?
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 368	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:58:00 - [24] - Quote iskflakes wrote: Rath Kelbore wrote: You will be pleased to hear that EVE Central isn't being banned by the EULA or any other document/entity, Are you sure? The latest dev responses say that cache scraping is totally illegal, but they super promise not to ban you for it, though you will absolutely get banned if you use it, unless you're doing something CCP likes, though obviously they can't tell you what that is. All clear? Good. And the devs have clearly stated that programs like eve central are not what they are aiming at with the new stance on cache scraping, its aimed at botters and other methods of cheatng, not third party programs that use it to get information. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:58:00 - [25] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Buy cheaper ships and lose 100x as many, instead of one very expensive ship. By losing 100 ships, you become 100x better at PvP. In T1 frigates I have lost like... 500, more or less. If I say I'm useless I say it with numbers. All of you are not getting the point. It's not the money. So, It's not Eve-Central (that was a minor upset). IT'S THE PVP.
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:59:00 - [26] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Giselle Garner wrote: Your system of risk-reward take out the most part of the fun for those that we can't go to low / null. Well ... ... CCP doesn't seem to care about the incapable. Too bad, hu ? ** you off, *** ***. (Minmatar topic, not real racist).
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 676	Posted - 2013.04.18 21:01:00 - [27] - Quote Giselle Garner wrote: IT'S THE PVP. Then what is stopping you from being good at PVP? Bad fits? Getting too nervous? Oh god.
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 1605	Posted - 2013.04.18 21:03:00 - [28] - Quote Giselle Garner wrote: ** you off, *** ***. (Minmatar topic, not real racist). For unproductive and violent comments... please, go to the trash. Professional bad guys were unfortunately not available so instead they sent me. Voter response is quite good this time around: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qCaz2OlMecY/UWhTTh_NfFI/AAAAAAAAPOE/ryjfQkApycs/s1600/05.jpg
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 21:06:00 - [29] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Giselle Garner wrote: IT'S THE PVP. Then what is stopping you from being good at PVP? Bad fits? Getting too nervous? I don't think are not bad fits. At least I fit things that other chars say in BattleClinic that are good, and BTW have a lot of positives. Also isn't get nervous. It's the real matter of improving your possibilities by creating the ideal (or a similar one) combat scenario for that ship. I think It's the metagame.
Giselle Garner Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.18 21:06:00 - [30] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: Giselle Garner wrote: ** you off, *** ***. (Minmatar topic, not real racist). For unproductive and violent comments... please, go to the trash. You started first. So shut up.



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