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Mitternacht CZ
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.21 19:58:00 -
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I don't know if this is right category but i have this problem. I don't do any antifaction or faction missions never so with diplomacy skill lvl 2 I have to all factions standing 0.80 but Gallante missing there and it's not on disliked by tab too. On disliked tab I have some pirates factions and Unknown faction. I read that Unknown faction is a bug and probably means Rogue Drones but if Gallante isn't in liked and disliked too something is wrong. Can anybody explain me it or have anybody the same problem with Gallante or other faction ?? Thanks. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3249
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Posted - 2013.04.21 20:38:00 -
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Mitternacht CZ wrote:I don't know if this is right category but i have this problem. I think you're confusing the forums with the petitioning system or help-chat. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6812
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:49:00 -
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Factions and Corporations with Neutral standing will not show up in the list since they are neither positive or negative. Train up another level of Connections skill and Gallente Faction should show in the list.
DMC
EDIT:
Or run a Storyline mission for one of the Gallente allied Factions (Minmatar, Sisters Of Eve, etc)
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships |
Lord Haur
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
59
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:59:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Factions and Corporations with Neutral standing will not show up in the list since they are neither positive or negative. Train up another level of Connections skill and Gallente Faction should show in the list. DMC EDIT: Or run a Storyline mission for one of the Gallente allied Factions (Minmatar, Sisters Of Eve, etc) http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships
Only half right.
The connections/diplomacy skills only affect non-zero standings. As such, only your edited solution would suffice. Running a Gallente Federation storyline mission would also work, or a single regular mission for the corporation you desire standings with. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3244
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:43:00 -
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Lord Haur wrote:The connections/diplomacy skills only affect non-zero standings. As such, only your edited solution would suffice. Running a Gallente Federation storyline mission would also work, or a single regular mission for the corporation you desire standings with.
Or, with Diplomacy, just shoot one of the faction's NPCs to get a negative standing change, allowing Diplomacy to bump it into the positive.
Oh EVE, where shooting someone can make them like you more...
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Mitternacht CZ
Viziam
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:32:00 -
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Thats makes sense but how can you explain that my diplomacy raise standing from Amarr -0.00 to 0.80 etc ... and now on my second character I have all (Gallante too) but not Minmatar and that char is Minmatar... Jove is here too and it's not in my first char. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13725
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:45:00 -
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Mitternacht CZ wrote:Thats makes sense but how can you explain that my diplomacy raise standing from Amarr -0.00 to 0.80 etc ... and now on my second character I have all (Gallante too) but not Minmatar and that char is Minmatar... Jove is here too and it's not in my first char.
It all depends on who you have standings with to begin with. A null standing (which tends to be different from 0.0 standing*) means that there is no value for skills and the like to modify. Any other value means the skills kick in and do their work. On top of this, there's the decimal truncation and rounding that EVE does to displayed values, even when the actual stored values are of much higher precision.
-0.00 most likely means that you have something along the lines of -0.0008 or so, which is not null, and thus enough to make the bonuses work.
Differences like the ones you describe between your characters are usually explained by whom they've run missions for (and against), since that's how you get derived standings and standing reductions. Just being Minmatar doesn't give you any standings with the Minmatar faction. That said, if you've run missions for any empire faction, the others should have received some positive or negative derived standing from that, so it's still a bit odd.
* The reason I say "tend to" is because, once you move away from null/0 standing, it is pretty much impossible to get it back to 0 again due to how standing changes are applied. I don't think anyone has ever really been able to confirm that they really can distinguish the two, or that it makes any difference, but since you have cases like yours: 0.00 base standing shows up, and is modified to some other value, it's just easier to think of null standing as separate from zero standing, even if it's just a case of decimal rounding hiding your actual value.
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Mitternacht CZ
Viziam
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:31:00 -
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Thanks Tippia ... now I understand whats the problem. |
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