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Jimmy Crikket
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:11:00 -
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I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners? |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
634
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:13:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring?
gewns are bored
genws have no imagination
result?
repeat of once successful actions
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1356
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:17:00 -
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Mineral speculation.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
403
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:17:00 -
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Yeah, what he said.
And Jita sucks so bad, it might lag the spam bots a little. Lord knows CCP won't get rid of them. 
Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2323
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:20:00 -
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why not
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7663
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:23:00 -
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I hear people play games for fun.
We just don't find "your" game fun.
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3245
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:34:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event.
I seem to remember Burn Jita 1 being announced well before Fanfest.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
The Methodical Alliance
122
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:35:00 -
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For no reason other than they can and it's funny. Do you really need a reason to create content? |
SpoonRECKLESS
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:36:00 -
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Yeah stop jita burn I need to get my alt there and get some stuff moved out. I paid the Jita pass permit but still nothing. |
Frying Doom
2397
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:50:00 -
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They are doing it because people are making it a profitable venture.
It if did not pay them to do it they would not bother.
Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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Remiel Pollard
Intergalactic Trade and Harm
1461
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Posted - 2013.04.22 04:00:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?
Maybe they just think Jita looks better in red.
I know I do 
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
635
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Posted - 2013.04.22 05:55:00 -
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Andski wrote:I hear people play games for fun.
We just don't find "your" game fun.
i would advice you to try WoW or some kind of "another game" |
Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:05:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:They are doing it because people are making it a profitable venture.
It if did not pay them to do it they would not bother.
It's not profitable when salvaging wrecks destroys content larger than a can - containers etc.
We do it because it's fun. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
389
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:16:00 -
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The blue donut is way too boring and safe these days. They gotta keep busy somehow.
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
129
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:26:00 -
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1- Its necessary to keep the goons happy internally and it reinforces the us/them culture
2- its useful to manage the attention of the game environment, positive or negative
3- its useful to manage the attention of the market external to the game environment (both for the aims of the Mittani site and = new players so for CCP and the game in general)
4- it is a demonstration of projected power, effecting immediate player experience and the market
The rhetorical platform is 'we will remind them who the f*** we are."
Private sig. Do not read. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
1093
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:41:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?
Because we hate you and want to see you suffer. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
1093
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:43:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:They are doing it because people are making it a profitable venture.
It if did not pay them to do it they would not bother.
If you think Goons do things just to see their wallets fISK_Value variable go up, you have mistaken us for the bottom feeding bot miners that we're killing in Jita right now. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8795
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:50:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?
I hear that some people actually like shooting spaceships in EVE Online, a game about people in spaceships shooting spaceships.
It's a strange world we live in.
Malcanis' Law:-á "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7665
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:50:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Andski wrote:I hear people play games for fun.
We just don't find "your" game fun. i would advice you to try WoW or some kind of "another game"
Hey look the guy who complains about suicide ganks is telling others to go to the themepark
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Lord Zim
2389
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:52:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Andski wrote:I hear people play games for fun.
We just don't find "your" game fun. i would advice you to try WoW or some kind of "another game"
Why? Can we harvest whiner tears in WoW?
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
RIP Vile Rat |
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H2O Hairey
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:53:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?
1. Goons need to keep there hordes happy, with atleast something.
2. They want to go to Fanfest as "the talk of the town".
3. They bought up part of the market for weeks now.
4. Freighter / JF pre-production.
5. .....Goons don't even know what there doing.
It's Eve be happy something is happening, reports even come in off ganking in Amarr space.
http://heavysteel-inc.blogspot.nl/ |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:00:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? ... Burning isk for CCP?
Hello there! I'm contractually obligated to inform you that this event is not removing ISK from the economy at all. While I'm aware that the concept of "ISK sink" is a difficult one to comprehend, Burn Jita is not one.
Here's why:
Pilot Goon A buys a ship off the Jita market. He is now down on ISK, but up on ship. But that amount of ISK is not gone from the economy: Whoever sold that ship now has the ISK (except for the NPC fees, which you may correctly consider an ISK sink, albeit a very small one).
Assuming that Goon A is not a full-on ****** (which is entirely unrealistic, but let's still do so for the sake of argument) and doesn't insure his ship, no more ISK gets removed. If he does insure his ship, then there's another ISK sink because the insurance doesn't pay out on suicide by cop.
Now let's say we use 30 Brutixes to gank a freighter (you need about 22-25, but let's add a slight buffer). Each fitted Brutix cost about 60m ISK when we bought supplies, but let's be generous and say 70m. Worst case, that's 52.5m ISK in fees for all of the 30 Brutixes.
An uninsured freighter pays out something in the region of 300m ISK I believe (I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong).
That means that every freighter we gank is a net ISK injection into the game of (at least) 250m ISK. Of course you may also calculate build slot cost for the stuff, but you'll still not end up with a net sink. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8797
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:05:00 -
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Of course, Burn Jita is a huge mineral sink for the economy.
It's good times for miners; where are their thanks?
Malcanis' Law:-á "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
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Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:05:00 -
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Eh... It's all BS. They are just ganking the big frieghters or industrials and then selling em new ones at a mark up.  |
Dave Stark
2726
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Of course, Burn Jita is a huge mineral sink for the economy.
It's good times for miners; where are their thanks?
trit has barely moved.
if goons want thanks for making a mineral sink, the miners will thank them when mineral prices actually move. |
Grund Soul
Interstellar Military Assistance Corporation
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:15:00 -
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Jimmy Crikket wrote:I well remember the first burn Jita event and the reasons (CCP) leading up to the event. However, What are the reasons for this seasons buring? Just the anniversary? Yes, I know that goons will be goons, but my observation is that while goons act in a goony way they often act strategically in large events. So what are they up to besides having fun? Burning isk for CCP? Pay back for some slight or sin? The Mittani getting his revenge for last years embarassment? Or just being Goons? Yes I know that it is much more than just goons, but what is behind it? Or am I giving too much credit to the planners?
For the luls and the and big booms.
Happy Anniversary Burn Jita! |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
3140
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:19:00 -
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I find burn Jita hilarious
It's for all those people who play an MMO by themselves and don't read anything on the forums, it's kinda obvious to just avoid jita, how hard is that? |
Radhe Amatin
Caldari High Prime
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
14
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:44:00 -
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its was actually very fun.... i got some hate mail that made this whole weekend even better then it was :D
cheers goons for the event..... |
Lord Zim
2390
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:46:00 -
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I never did get any hate mail :(
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
RIP Vile Rat |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
245
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:47:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Of course, Burn Jita is a huge mineral sink for the economy.
It's good times for miners; where are their thanks?
What Malcanis said. I know my eyes glittered with happiness the first time I heard they'll be doing it. All that potential war profit! <3 |
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