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Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:42:00 -
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I have subscriped till january and would love to play the game..but I can't since my laptop doesn't support shader model 3.0  My desktop pc died..
Is there any way to switch skill in training without the game client...? Would be cool if I could somehow do that while I am trying to save up money for better laptop... Don't want to spend another 500 $ on desktop pc that wont last anyway.. Yes I am poor student..
Any solution...? |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
90
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:47:00 -
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@Boris,
Which GPU does the laptop have installed, can you tell us the make and model of the GPU ?
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:48:00 -
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Join Occupy: Reykjavik protest and demand out-of-game access to skill queue. (just see the guy on the corner with the 100s of pages of notepaper...he's the one collecting demands)
Otherwise, find a friend with a suitable PC and ask to load game and install long skill.
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Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:52:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:@Boris,
Which GPU does the laptop have installed, can you tell us the make and model of the GPU ?
It's intel gpu, 945 chipset. Not sure about the gpu, is there some way to check it? |
Comy 1
Ore Mongers
Indecisive Certainty
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:55:00 -
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Boris Ginnungagap wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:@Boris,
Which GPU does the laptop have installed, can you tell us the make and model of the GPU ?
It's intel gpu, 945 chipset. Not sure about the gpu, is there some way to check it?
Run dxdiag and check under the display tab. If you run vista or w7 just type dxdiag in the search bar in the start menu and press enter. If you are on xp run search for it. |
cyclobs
Loud Curse Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.18 04:59:00 -
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Comy 1 wrote:Boris Ginnungagap wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:@Boris,
Which GPU does the laptop have installed, can you tell us the make and model of the GPU ?
It's intel gpu, 945 chipset. Not sure about the gpu, is there some way to check it? Run dxdiag and check under the display tab. If you run vista or w7 just type dxdiag in the search bar in the start menu and press enter. If you are on xp run search for it.
or go start -> run -> dxdiag |
Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:00:00 -
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It says Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family and as chip it says Intel (R) GMA 950. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:02:00 -
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@Boris,
When the client starts-up, assuming you can get to the startup (logon) screen :-
Press ESC for the setup menu and turn off all effects, turn off HDR, Dpeth Effects, Anti Aliasing disabled, everything graphics-wise off or lowest setting.
If you are not able to get to logon screen, you may have to directly edit the INI file.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:04:00 -
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All it did was hang up at splash screen and pop up came that said something about old graphics card or something like that  |
Cyaxares II
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:13:00 -
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Boris Ginnungagap wrote:It says Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family and as chip it says Intel (R) GMA 950.
you are probably out of luck - tried to run software-based shaders on a GMA 950, didn't get past the login screen (and even that took forever to load).
Maybe you can occasionally set long skills at a friend's home?
The "usual" solution to your issue (it happens quite frequently - people on military deployments in backwater countries often lose eve access for 3-6 months at a time) would be to break the EULA with rgds to account sharing - but don't expect CCP to care if the friend you decide to entrust with your credentials decides not to give back your account(s) when you want them back and don't run around telling everyone about your practice.
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Amro One
One.
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:14:00 -
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But ship spinning is not out yet for a few more hours, and people are already killing there PC over the graphics.
CCP you rock.
Bring back the door. |
Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:15:00 -
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Direct solution, no. Work around, yes.
Copy your EVE folder into a thumbdrive, run on another computer - anywhere from labs to a friend's machine. Be wary on public computers.
You shouldn't need your personal settings if you're just changing skills, so skip it.
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Cyaxares II
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:15:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:@Boris,
When the client starts-up, assuming you can get to the startup (logon) screen :-
Press ESC for the setup menu and turn off all effects, turn off HDR, Dpeth Effects, Anti Aliasing disabled, everything graphics-wise off or lowest setting.
If you are not able to get to logon screen, you may have to directly edit the INI file.
this guy has no clue what he is talking about. |
Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:16:00 -
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Okay, guess I'll have just have to wait.. Thanks for replying. |
FlamesOfHeaven
Sarif Digital Augmentation Research
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 05:28:00 -
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http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=371
go to settings and edit prefs.ini
try:
antiAliasing=0
loadstationenv=0
lodQuality=1
shaderQuality=1
textureQuality=2
(this is when I put all my settings the lowest)
or for more detail :
http://pastie.org/private/uttfwpxi99rodg7putmw
Only came up with the methods just mins ago. So if it didnt work, tough luck :/
Edit: typos & addition post |
Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 06:00:00 -
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Doesn't help, it says Outdated graphics card. Well I'll have to wait untill I can buy newer laptop. This is only 3-4 years old and still too old... Sucks.. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
90
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Posted - 2011.10.18 06:20:00 -
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Cyaxares II wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:@Boris,
When the client starts-up, assuming you can get to the startup (logon) screen :-
Press ESC for the setup menu and turn off all effects, turn off HDR, Dpeth Effects, Anti Aliasing disabled, everything graphics-wise off or lowest setting.
If you are not able to get to logon screen, you may have to directly edit the INI file.
this guy has no clue what he is talking about.
Quite verbose for someone who actually has nothing to offer. Those settings go directly to the INI file, which I emailed to the Op.
Before you type anything again, please evaluate what you think you want to type. Troll along now please.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Sebero Sinak
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.10.18 08:09:00 -
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Wanted to give you a heads up on running eve on a laptop. I have a M-Tech running a 9800m GeForce video card, ( not made yesterday but still a decent setup ).
running Incarna on a laptop generates alot of heat and you need to be very aware of keeping it clean - if you aren't taking the back off your notebook , freeing the video card and cleaning it it isn't clean enough. also use a aftermarket fan base.
And don't go to the store leaving Eve running..
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.18 08:18:00 -
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No it is impossible to play a game without a computer. This has been the fact since the invention of software, since it is not hardware.
Go to a cybercaf+¬, or get a decent (not expensive)3 year old pc.
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David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:00:00 -
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Boris Ginnungagap wrote:I have subscriped till january and would love to play the game..but I can't since my laptop doesn't support shader model 3.0 My desktop pc died.. Is there any way to switch skill in training without the game client...? Would be cool if I could somehow do that while I am trying to save up money for better laptop... Don't want to spend another 500 $ on desktop pc that wont last anyway.. Yes I am poor student.. Any solution...?
if your pc died why not just replace the faulty part?
did the psu die?
was it a faulty motherboard?
u might find replacing a faulty part a cheaper and fast way to get your pc working |
shellree
Panty Hamsters
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:11:00 -
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easy fix confirmed.... Put PC in microwave set to 5 mins, after smoke stops and is cool to tough go to the top of dorm room through off 15th story roof. Once all parts have been found from area ge on bike and run it over for aprox 10 mins. This should fix any problems you have. |
Kalmanaka
Cockpit Commandos
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:12:00 -
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Fix your pc. 90% of the time it's the power supply. Otherwise go to thrift shops and call your local pc repair people and get an old pc. You can run eve on an old as hell pc as long as your video card supports shader 3. Someone even came out with a new video card for a flippin PCI slot.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/GeForce-GT-520-PCI-PCI-Express-lagacy,13544.html |
shellree
Panty Hamsters
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:12:00 -
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Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:15:00 -
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My notebook runs hotter at DNF than CQ ...
Anyway, if there was a way to activate the DirectX Reference Driver, you'd have a win.
Maybe ask CCP if they could implement that, it's just a few lines of code anyway.
Also, yes ... usually not the whole PC dies, but only a part of it.
Seems you should ask somebody who has a clue about it,
if he can fix whatever is broken ...
What you ALSO could try is installing a VMWare (or whatever)
and find yourself a virtual machine with a virtual gfx-card that supports SM3.
I recall people playing EvE in a virtual machine, so it should be possible.
Good luck. ^^ |
Cyaxares II
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:27:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:Cyaxares II wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:@Boris,
When the client starts-up, assuming you can get to the startup (logon) screen :-
Press ESC for the setup menu and turn off all effects, turn off HDR, Dpeth Effects, Anti Aliasing disabled, everything graphics-wise off or lowest setting.
If you are not able to get to logon screen, you may have to directly edit the INI file.
this guy has no clue what he is talking about. Quite verbose for someone who actually has nothing to offer. Those settings go directly to the INI file, which I emailed to the Op. Before you type anything again, please evaluate what you think you want to type. Troll along now please.
I already offered my advice a few posts above.
EVE won't run without SM 3 and the only workaround is to emulate SM3 in software (which is extremely slow and does in my experience not work well enough to even get to the character selection - but at least it displays the login screen w/o Maller).
You clearly didn't understand the issue if you think tweaking some INI file will change that. It's a hardcoded check for SM3+ during client startup that poses the problem (and with the static door/hangar pictures removed the shaders might very well be required even inside station nowadays).
In contrast to you I have spent several hours a few weeks ago looking for workarounds to the OP's problem as I own a laptop with the same Intel gfx chipset that I would have loved to use for changing skills, updating market orders and using chat channels. |
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