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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.24 23:18:00 -
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Right lads, I looking for some clarification on the Cerberus. Is it a bad ship overall or is it just a bad HAC when compared to the others?
On paper it looks good enough with Time,Skills and Money. With 5 Launcher slots, The Rate of Fire bonus,Good missile skills and T2 launchers with the Heavy Missile Spec up to 4 it must spew Heavy missiles. And at a good range. Also it should be able to fit a reasonable tank from what I can see so overall it appears to me to be a good ship.
HOWEVER it does seem to pale in comparison to the other HACs so please can someone clarify this for me and any other misconceptions i may have shown here in this thread.
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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.24 23:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Malken
assault frigates do more dmg then a cerberus does.
Im sceptical about that but I cant refute it. Could ya post some numbers?
Its just I cant see a Sniper-Cerb being out damaged by a Frigate. Im might be wrong but I just cant see it.
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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.25 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy
* Gank-cerberus: 250 dps at 100km.
* Gank-taranis: 200 dps at 1km. Blaster-enyo has one more gun but a lower damage bonus.
With good damage skills & t2 stuffs. Not precise numbers, but here's the idea.
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
Ahh I see it now. But I suppose damage isnt everything considering a Cerberus can tank better and has a far longer range and dmg selection.
Should have rephrased it as being "Though it might do more DPS I cant see an AF beating a Cerberus"
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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.25 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Bagdh Dearg
Ahh I see it now. But I suppose damage isnt everything considering a Cerberus can tank better and has a far longer range and dmg selection.
Should have rephrased it as being "Though it might do more DPS I cant see an AF beating a Cerberus"
Actually, the cerberus has one of the worst tanks among the HACs. Its capacitor is massively sub-par, no more than the tech 1 caracal's, and its tank, like all shield tanks, can run through that capacitor in no time flat.
As for assault frigates beating a cerberus, this is sadly quite possible: heavy missiles do so little damage vs. assault frigs (thanks to the sig radius) that a cerberus' entire damage output can easily be tanked. The 5%/level bonus to kinetic missile damage is only truly useful against minmatar AF and HACs - the other races' ships can easily tank the entire damage output of a cerberus for quite a while, and dish out a higher DPS in return.
I believe I can sum up my feelings on this rather quickly and curtly:
Oh Bollix.
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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.25 00:34:00 -
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So basically the Cerberus is both a bad HAC and bad Ship. Well this certainly makes me less then pleased.
Damn I assumed that it had to be atleast some way competant, seeing as the other T2 ships in general do something well.And on paper they really should, High Rate of fire and damage but its that damn Sig Radius problum which kills it.
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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:13:00 -
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So basically, With skills, Money and certain situations the Cerberus is both a good ship and good HAC however it seems without a massive level of concentration of skill points and Isk the ship is a waste of 80mill.
Well Ive always enjoyed a challenge,Thanks for the replies lads.
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Bagdh Dearg
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Posted - 2005.09.25 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
with the BPO and lottery as it is "aka. still just a few BPO's released" even though server population has increased by a factor of 5 in active population on the servers the apparent shortage of available ships on market rests completely within CCP's sphere of blame and not the people building the ships 24/7.
and even though they build them 24/7 there is still nowhere near enough ships to supply the market.
coupled with the complete and utter stupidity of making copying the tech2 ship BPO's taking longer then actually building a ship it was made this way by CCP so once again the blame rests with CCP.
guess what?, CCP dont give a **** and wont fix it.
what would be needed is the copying time be max 70% of the building time.
also the available BPO' should be increased with a factor of 5 atleast.
maybe then there would be some kind of availability and the builders/sellers would have to position their goods in the post highway market system for maximum sales and returns.
the HAC build and availability is a joke atm.
Little off topic but ok,You have a point 
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Posted - 2005.09.27 11:17:00 -
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That was my alt above ^^
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