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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.25 10:04:00 -
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Jassmin Joy wrote:Arronicus wrote:LF7M Titan raid, post ilvl and spec in comment. Show up 10 mins before the raid, and have flasks or don't come. The fact that i understood the "ilvl" partof that terrifies me.
ilvl is significantly better than the whole "gearscore" thing that went on prior to ilvl.
although i'm going to pretend i don't know what either of those mean. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3294
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Posted - 2013.04.25 10:13:00 -
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You look like a screwed mirror image of myself, OP. :/ |
Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
29
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Posted - 2013.04.25 10:18:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:You look like a screwed mirror image of myself, OP. :/
GASP!!! 
I was actually thinking about you when I first saw that face
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3260
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Posted - 2013.04.25 10:23:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:RubyPorto wrote:So... you want to make it a Space Coffin that dies as soon as your sub lapses? How does that make it "bad ass"? no i want to take rigs away from super caps make sc dockable only in battle outposts... and make titans able to link up with an outpost to make them balltle outposts.
What do rigs have to do with anything?
So... what you're saying is dockable Supers. What a new and innovative idea that nobody's ever asked for before.
What the hell is a "battle" outpost, and what do you imagine it does?
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3294
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Posted - 2013.04.25 10:24:00 -
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Job Valador wrote:Solstice Project wrote:You look like a screwed mirror image of myself, OP. :/ GASP!!! I was actually thinking about you when I first saw that face I take that as a compliment. ^_^ |
Manny Moons
New Order Logistics
CODE.
59
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Posted - 2013.04.25 13:07:00 -
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From a business standpoint, when a player unsubs, it is in the best interest of CCP for them to someday resub. I would think the loss of their assets might not improve the odds of that happening.
I'm having a hard time understanding why someone active in the game would unsub their titan pilot, since the account has two more character slots that could surely be used for some productive purpose while the titan is inactive.
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
919
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Posted - 2013.04.25 13:50:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:You look like a screwed mirror image of myself, OP. :/
i actually based my avatar on yours...
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point?
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
919
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Posted - 2013.04.25 14:16:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:MeBiatch wrote:RubyPorto wrote:So... you want to make it a Space Coffin that dies as soon as your sub lapses? How does that make it "bad ass"? no i want to take rigs away from super caps make sc dockable only in battle outposts... and make titans able to link up with an outpost to make them balltle outposts. What do rigs have to do with anything? So... what you're saying is dockable Supers. What a new and innovative idea that nobody's ever asked for before. What the hell is a "battle" outpost, and what do you imagine it does?
to me rigs on a super cap 9/10 will be tech II trimarks and sheild extander II
and this allows super caps to have ridiculous amounts of ehp and is IMO the main reason you cant dock them.
but if you remove the ability to fit rigs (i mean i understand rigging a ship 30 meters long or hell even 2 km max but 6-18km? thats just nonsense)
i feel that with sc not having rigs it will greatly reduce the ehp and thus would not have a problem for them docking in special upgraded player owned outposts.
but just because you can dock a sc does not mean you should dock a titan...
From what i understand the main role of a titan is to bridge ships and when the opurtunity comes you can actually fight in one... if the odds are in your favour...
Before you could blap in a titan and that was fun because it did not matter if you were stuck in the ship as you could still use it often.
but now you cant... so really once you are in a titan you have no purpose...
i am not sure about the details like if you plug a titan into a 0.0 outpost will it act like a control tower where you can deploy guns and it enhances the ehp of the outpost or what not... So in turns an outpost into a bettle outpost and then allows you to dock super carriers into the outpost...
what i am looking to do is renew the roles of supercaps and make a mechanic that allows you to leave the ship in some relative safty without having to keep the char not loged in to do so.
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point?
-áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Enochia Starr
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.25 14:23:00 -
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I have 2 of mine unsubscribed, at least 5 in my corp that are not subscribed.. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2653
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Posted - 2013.04.25 14:59:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:MeBiatch wrote:so is it true there are more unsuscribed titans then actually active ones?
from what i understand certain alliances have the ability to produce many titans but just cuss you have a titan does not mean its a safe titan... and you only need so many active for fleets and can reactivate ones if needed fast.
So does this mean that as an insurance policy alliances like goons and PL keep the majority of their titans unsubsribed?
Like can you even kill an unsubscribed ship?
I guess when you here that a titan was killed that its already replaced is true...
i mean how hard is it for a rich alliance to buy titan chars with plex and then offline them the next ship that is made...
to me this is bull!
i would make is so if you unsub a titan then that titan does not become unscanable in deep space...
but also add the ability for a titan to plug into a outpost and make it a battleoutpost! One titan per outpost. The battle portion(titan) of the outpost can be integrated into an outpost or uninstalled (just takes a while to do so) and when you take a battle outpost it gets damaged and requires a certain amount of time and items to be repaired.
as it stands you cant stop capital proliferation... its silly to try... but why not use these titans to also enhance outposts and make those destructible outposts we are all looking for?
edit: when a battle outpost is taken it cant be used for anything other then docking and 30% of total assets are destructed....
destructed assets are random. They're waiting for the war
The Great War, as the prophecy says.
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Skorpynekomimi
495
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Posted - 2013.04.25 16:18:00 -
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Having an entire account tied up as the holding character?
Nonsense. Three character slots per account. Put them on your jita alt's account, or a forum alt.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
882
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Posted - 2013.04.25 16:22:00 -
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titans and supers tieing up skilled long time players for the time they have it is total stupid - ccp figured that would mean more subs not less.
again, i hate supers and i think a char thats allowed to do anything in the universe sand box, can put a titan somehwere safe other than simply logging it off and still not having the char for anything else.
oh and one more thing, you cant add plex to a pilot in space - must suck extra balls for wormholers as well as super chars.
DUM DUM DUM DUM DUMMMMM
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Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
19
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Posted - 2013.04.25 18:51:00 -
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I understand what the OP means. He wants supercap pilots to be able to do more than just inactive as many of our supercap alts have nowhere to go except when needed. The problem lies in the fact you can't park the damn things anywhere and do something else and as a result that alt is a waste when it could be used. Whoever who owns one are most likely unsubbbed for long periods of time, my own supercap pilot alt have been inactive for ages languishing in null sec dark space. It's also rather silly that to actually buy one you must use a middle man, there should be a better and safer way.
It would be better if there was some way you could park it in and resub the pilot alt for something else but truth be told, it's a dangerous line to cross. |
Tore Vest
317
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Posted - 2013.04.25 18:59:00 -
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I am waiting for CCP Soundwave to save us form the supers 
No troll. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1450
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Posted - 2013.04.25 19:29:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:The issue is that outside of well supported fleet combat Titans and SC's are largely useless. Mass supercap ops are a relative rarity and have always been a bit of a rarity, so individual pilots find themselves paying for this account that never logs in, with a character that is sitting in a coffin.
Three 'toons per account. It's not a big deal to sideline one 'toon - Indeed, I've done precisely that with my scan-bunny; He's only active when I need to find a WH. Not really a hard concept to figure out... and I'm sure Titan pilots have. I suspect that it's more of a 'bucket list' item, proof that they have done all there it to do.
Quote: Supercaps are a ******* space coffin. They should have never been introduced to the game. If they hadn't been created, they'd have needed to be created, just to prove that they're largely pointless. This is EVE-O; players would've been banging on tins and frothing over with consiracy theories about how "CCP didn't want them to have super-ships because (insert batshit theory here)."
So... CCP made the damn things, and now people understand, without having to trust CCP's word on it.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
921
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Posted - 2013.04.25 19:36:00 -
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^ ah cool so you can multi box with the same account now.
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point?
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1450
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Posted - 2013.04.25 19:38:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:^ ah cool so you can multi box with the same account now.
No, that's what the utility account is for.
I don't multi-box when I need a WH, I log, and log back in with the Scan-Bunny.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
425
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:09:00 -
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It's kind of fun watching people not put 2+2 together, but I guess I've had enough fun.
Yes, accounts have 3 characters one could be using. So you ask, why would someone unsub an account with 2 viable characters still on it? The answer is, they are not. People who, for what ever reason, really like flying supers will just have all 3 characters be super "holders".
Because, what is better than having an unsubed account with a super? Having an unsubed account with 3 supers.
And now you know why nullsec alliances and super pilots themselves can shrug off losing a super. All the major nullsec powers have a silly amount of supers in reserve. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3262
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:21:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:to me rigs on a super cap 9/10 will be tech II trimarks and sheild extander II
and this allows super caps to have ridiculous amounts of ehp and is IMO the main reason you cant dock them.
but if you remove the ability to fit rigs (i mean i understand rigging a ship 30 meters long or hell even 2 km max but 6-18km? thats just nonsense)
i feel that with sc not having rigs it will greatly reduce the ehp and thus would not have a problem for them docking in special upgraded player owned outposts.
The ability to rig supers (soon with Rigs specifically designed for them) has nothing to do with why the can't dock. (BTW: An Aeon can easily hit almost 26m EHP without rigs).
Quote:but just because you can dock a sc does not mean you should dock a titan...
From what i understand the main role of a titan is to bridge ships and when the opurtunity comes you can actually fight in one... if the odds are in your favour...
Before you could blap in a titan and that was fun because it did not matter if you were stuck in the ship as you could still use it often.
Before you could AOE Doomsday through a Cyno from a POS bubble, and that was fun because it did not matter if you were stuck in the ship as you could still use it often.
Quote:but now you cant... so really once you are in a titan you have no purpose...
i am not sure about the details like if you plug a titan into a 0.0 outpost will it act like a control tower where you can deploy guns and it enhances the ehp of the outpost or what not... So in turns an outpost into a bettle outpost and then allows you to dock super carriers into the outpost...
what i am looking to do is renew the roles of supercaps and make a mechanic that allows you to leave the ship in some relative safty without having to keep the char not loged in to do so.
OP **** gets nerfed. Pull up your big boy pants and deal with it.
Oh wonderful. More EHP to shoot through when taking systems. Plus Free Supercarrier Docking games. Plus a Titan that can't get bumped off station to be killed and shares the station's EHP pool. What a wonderful plan.
Anyway, you've yet to explain why titans becoming unavailable for use by their sub lapsing is a bad thing.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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