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Shrike Arghast In Omnia Paratus Fearless Flying Frogs 4	Posted - 2013.04.25 06:40:00 - [1] - Quote Admittedly, I have never messed around seriously with Amarr. But over the last couple of weeks I've gotten interested in them, and I bought an Armageddon... largely to look at, because it's pretty. However, I'd like to actually fly the thing at some point -- mostly in PvE to begin with -- rather than simply ship spinning it. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a fit that's not like... 4 years old. I had been using http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/33038-Armageddon-Level-4-miss-geddon.html as just a rough template on EVEMON on basic skills to train up, but seeing as I'm nearing completion on T2 pulse specialization (I do know enough to know scorch is good), I was hoping someone could suggest a more modern setup? Because, given my experience with old battleclinic builds, I'm guessing that the one I posted is crap by today's standards? But, again, I don't 'do' Amarr, and wouldn't know better. Thanks in advance.
Froggy Storm Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement 23	Posted - 2013.04.25 06:55:00 - [2] - Quote The GED is getting a major overhaul in the summer bs changes. It is becoming the direct step up from the amarr drone/neut family of ships. For now its OK in missions as a mjd/tac platform but far from ideal. Strictly speaking of mission running the nonselectable ammo is a real pain in the rump. This is particularly true vs angels. I love the golden fleet myself. If you have T2 sentries ready then the GED can be a mission monster come summer. Otherwise just train for the mach and get those projectile skills up.
Roime Shiva Furnace 2627	Posted - 2013.04.25 07:07:00 - [3] - Quote Why don't you fit your ship yourself? -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve 1226	Posted - 2013.04.25 10:44:00 - [4] - Quote The Navy Geddon wont be getting changed though will it? So if you like the look of the normal geddon, buy the Navy one so you don't get hit with the changes. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument!
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 700	Posted - 2013.04.25 11:03:00 - [5] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: The Navy Geddon wont be getting changed though will it?. It will. Oh god.
Froggy Storm Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement 23	Posted - 2013.04.25 11:31:00 - [6] - Quote At the present I don't think there has been much (speculation) word on the faction hull changes. Though to be totally honest if you're zoomed in enough to see your ship then you are missing the point of spread sheets in space. In my book, pretty ships are for station spins or spectacular explosions. Beyond the RP aspects the effectiveness of the ship and my ability to fly it are the significant factors. The meta gaming and min/max exist because someone who is far smarter (generally) all ready did the math for us as to what ships and fits work best where. All that aside, don't listen too close to me. If you are set on a hull then fly it. Just don't forget that it is your choice and as such complaints that it isn't optimal are quite silly.
Leopold Caine Stillwater Corporation 163	Posted - 2013.04.25 12:38:00 - [7] - Quote Geddons are horrible for PVE due to their capacitor and fitting issues. If you want to use one, I'd recommend fitting it as a wingman for another person with a reasonable PvE BS and using its 5 sentries and DHPLs with Scorch to add the extra dps. As a solo PvE boat... no. Just get an Apoc. As for Odyssey changes, I don't like speculations, will comment on that when I see the actual end effects on TQ. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open.
Chi'Nane T'Kal Interminatus Aeterna Anima 67	Posted - 2013.04.25 12:48:00 - [8] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: The Navy Geddon wont be getting changed though will it?. It will. Not with summer patch, though.
Shrike Arghast In Omnia Paratus Fearless Flying Frogs 4	Posted - 2013.04.25 17:48:00 - [9] - Quote Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote: Riot Girl wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: The Navy Geddon wont be getting changed though will it?. It will. Not with summer patch, though. How horrible. I love the model and it's becoming a neut/drone boat? You couldn't pay me to sail one of those. I'm only interested in gunships, and detest the Apoc (the Abaddon is okay but far from a favorite). Guess that kills Amarr for me.
Aralieus Shadowbane Syndicate 101	Posted - 2013.04.25 18:20:00 - [10] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: The Navy Geddon wont be getting changed though will it?. It will. Lies! Oderint Dum Metuant
Ines Tegator Towels R Us 254	Posted - 2013.04.25 19:56:00 - [11] - Quote Navy geddon will be unchanged for a good while- they aren't touching the navy BS's yet. Hopefully, they keep it true to the classic, to keep the old Amarr flavor alive after changing the t1 version. The new geddon should still be a beast though, if you can use t2 sentries and cruise missiles. - Mission Overhaul - Bridging the PVP / PVE Gap - -áIf the game stops teaching people to fear lowsec, maybe people will start going there?
Provence Tristram Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:09:00 - [12] - Quote Ines Tegator wrote: Navy geddon will be unchanged for a good while- they aren't touching the navy BS's yet. Hopefully, they keep it true to the classic, to keep the old Amarr flavor alive after changing the t1 version. The new geddon should still be a beast though, if you can use t2 sentries and cruise missiles. I don't like it. I understand that the new version has its fans, but I am decidedly in the camp of preserving (and even celebrating) the original differences between the races. Everything CCP is doing at the moment is breaking down those barriers, and it's just plain sad. If the Geddon changes go live, then the Navy version should stay as it is. We don't need 3 incarnations of the Bhaal flying around -- there's absolutely no necessity for that. If a Navy boat is going to get worked over, crap on the Apoc instead. Some of us like the Geddon model paired with lasers, shocking as that apparently comes for CCP.
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice 1019	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:18:00 - [13] - Quote Navy geddon will not be changed. Also, it's currently cheap, at ~15 mil higher than an Abaddon. Here's a fit. [Armageddon Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Drone Damage Amplifier II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L [empty high slot] Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Curator II x5 Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454
Provence Tristram Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:33:00 - [14] - Quote sabre906 wrote: Navy geddon will not be changed. Not that we know of. Honestly, at this point, I don't think anything is safe. Quote: Also, it's currently cheap, at ~15 mil higher than an Abaddon. Here's a fit. [Armageddon Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Drone Damage Amplifier II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L [empty high slot] Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Curator II x5 No afterburner?
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice 1019	Posted - 2013.04.25 20:44:00 - [15] - Quote Provence Tristram wrote: sabre906 wrote: Navy geddon will not be changed. Not that we know of. Honestly, at this point, I don't think anything is safe. Quote: Also, it's currently cheap, at ~15 mil higher than an Abaddon. Here's a fit. [Armageddon Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Drone Damage Amplifier II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L [empty high slot] Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Curator II x5 No afterburner? Sure, modify as mission requires. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454

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