Cloak/micro warpdrive trick?

Hope for a celestial (planet, moon, etc) that is easier to align to than.the next gate?

Get a friend to scout for you in a cheap ship/clone.

If possible, fit a damage control II in one of your low slots to increase tank.

Fly a better ship for this job such as a venture.

Not that it matters much in that situation but I'm pretty sure using your AB will result in a longer align time than if you just aligned normally.

Not that it matters much in that situation but I'm pretty sure using your AB will result in a longer align time than if you just aligned normally.

This.

Using the AB...especially on a Procurer will result in a much longer time to get into warp.

Just a few things. First, fitting stabs in lows is useless. Heres why. If on a gate, as in you just come through and there are people waiting for you reaproach gate and turn on Your tank. If they attack you then just warp back and reroute the attackers have agro and cant follow. For solo lowsec Mining, always check map stats of people in system and ships destroid stay out of high pop areas. If you fly into one all ways expect the gate camp. You should always fit for tank before anything else( Ie : Max yield )if solo low sec. also gate camp bs fit sensor boosters that plus your bloomed radius from your rigs equals insta lock. last point, don't get pissy when You choose to take a risk and loose a ship to one of the most common mechanics in the game **** happens.

edit: Second point on the stabs thing if you are in a belt in low you should be aligned and always running short scan 500,000 range. if anything shows up On Scan warp off.

warp to the next stargate will begin in about 8.3 seconds. I do this. In less than 8 seconds, dead. 5 gatecamp non-creative kill ganking ships (with t2 weaps and modules allowing insta-lock, of course) did 20K damage in less than 8 seconds. .

5. Too bad you choose to characterize this entire thread as an example of pissy. Simply wondering if I am missing anything.

1. Checking stats. Did that. Do that all the time. Good advice for everyone.

2. Stabs in low - dont want to have this argument. Its a valid choice for travel and non-combat ships. On the proc the only effect of having stabs in low is A) no mining upgrades and B) have to get to within 7k of the roids to mine them. Big deal. The positive effect of stabs is : you can't be scrammed or destabbed, unless there is a bubble which is extremely rare for what I do. If I didn't have stabs in low, I would have been destroyed 3 or 4 times more than I have. In fact, this is the only time I've actually been destroyed in a ship with stabs.

3. The Proc is a tank by default, but having shield or armor tank modules isn't going to do a whole lot in this situation. The cycle time alone for shield and tank modules is longer than it took for the Proc to get destroyed. Read the OP, each ship got off 1 shot - the total damage of those shots was more HP than the Proc has, from start to finish the engagement lasted LESS THAN 8 SECONDS.

4. Reapproach Gate - sorry that takes about 2 minutes in a procurer. If there were tank modules that could fix 20K damage in 8 seconds, or even 40 seconds since the gankers here were using 1400mm Artilery, then I would consider this. No tank modules I know of have the capacity to repair that much damage in 8 or 40 seconds.

4.5 What sig radius to you need to have to avoid getting locked up in about 5 seconds? Are there any modules or rigs that lower sig?

5. Too bad you choose to characterize this entire thread as an example of pissy. Simply wondering if I am missing anything. Even if this happens again, I don't care about losing the ship, just want to have a loss rate that makes going for the rare ores in low sec worthwhile. Right now its kind of a wash.

Maps have Intel. Pilots in space. Ships destroyed in last hour. Use them.

Use a venture. Its MEANT for lowsec. Its fast, agile, naturally stabilized, and has good mining to boot.

MWD cloak when travelling and refit on arrival.

With these tools you evade at least 95% of gate camps. I got busted a few times early on in eve. After about 6 months in I started using those tools and I have not died to a gate camp in like 3 years, and I LIVE in lowsec. So yeah.

Stabs are for stupids.



What you're missing is the exercise of an appropriate degree of caution when bringing a ship that handles like a pregnant cow into low sec.

You didn't scout the gate. I'm betting you didn't even check the map stats. You just Leeroyed on in there.

1. Good idea

2. You don't know how stabs work. It's a numbers game, you need more warp core stabs. than they have warp points. Most warp scramblers have 2 points (faction ones can have 3)

3. On a Proc. you want buffer and resists if you want fit a tank.

4. To reapproach the gate you will need a MWD and a good tank, I doubt a Proc. can fit both.

4.5. Don't know the numbers for that but a gate camp will be set up to lock you in 1-2 secs. You won't be able to alter that in a shield tank barge.

5. You are missing friends to scout for you.

6. Use a Venture, its what its designed for.

*sigh*
Some of the advice above is sound OP. You're simply hitting your head against the wall hoping for a different result.

- stabs are utterly useless unless you can fit 4 or more. They are also directly countered by Heavy Interdictors and their scripted "infini point." A damage control on the other hand increases your tank by almost HALF.

- the best way to not get killed is to avoid getting into a situation where you might get killed in the first place. To do this try using "back-end" gates that are far from trade hubs. Or use a blockade runner and haul your stuff deep into low-sec.

- Ventures are perfectly suited for low-sec because they are quick and mobile. They don't need a tank when they can simply warp off as soon as something appears on grid. The only place they are most vulnerable is on the undock of a station. Use insta-warp bookmarks and/or warp off to the celestial most in line with your undock path.

The job is solo low sec mining.

3. had adaptive invul and 2 rigs for resists.

I am unsure why the OP is puzzled with the outcome.

You were engaged by 5 "BS or BC" sized ships. There is a significant difference between the two, by the way but even, for arguments sake, we call them 5 BCs; that is at least 5 points that can lock you in well under 8 seconds - you weren't going to warp off under any circumstances. That is also taking out of the equation the type of ships, damage type applied and the point that your '20k tank' was measured in terms of "effective" hit points.

As to your question of avoiding such outcomes, the short answer is "no" with an 'if' or the long answer is "yes" with a 'but'. The former involves sticking to hi-sec mining, while the latter has been covered in previous posters' responses, namely scouting, using a different (more versitile) ship, fitting advice and so on.

I am unsure why the OP is puzzled with the outcome.