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b1Polarized Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:11:00 - [1] - Quote You might all know, and for those who don't, how Chitsa Jason recently distanced himself from Polarized during his CSM campaign. The reasons are as following. Polarized is a massive cluster hug of differentiating opinions and weak leadership. One might say that this is similar to how ducks were run or how exhale operated but I am not that sinister. Fact remains that Polarized was as media sexy as roadkill and Mr. Jason knew this well. Why am I rambling on about Mr. Jason and Polarized? I am merely trying to offer some background for the common folk. And the background conclusion I am offering is as follows, if Mr. Jason leaves the ship, that means that the ship is sinking badly. Always. How is Polarized sinking you may ask. For the longest time there was only two wills in the leadership of exhale. The vision (the old definition for vision is a false premonition) of Mr. Jason and the counterforce of Hathrul. Hathrul not the most bleak and abiding of people was luckily contained by Efraya the mild. With only these two forces exhale managed to make steady progress and mass recruit with heavy hand. As a side note I reflect that it is always easier to just bring another proteus than to actually teach your pilots about how to use said ship. This leadership was lackluster and without real direction. The only objectives seemed to be to match corporation A (which is by the way slowly dying) or corporation N. Once an objective was reached a bigger corporation was picked and numbers were soon matched. Still there seemed to be a certain drift to how things were run. Other CEOs expressed opinions but said opinions could easily be ignored and once corporations realized this they often left. Now cue Max Leadfoot. The most heavy of Leadfoots. Leadfoot brought some well needed hatred into the alliance and the game. Not soon after Leadfoot joining the never ending question of why are those utterly lost and inactive lithuanians running the alliance? was brought to the table. A question other corporations in exhale. had asked before. The answer was obvious. No reason. They simply should not. But they would refuse to give up the formal leadership of the alliance. And a good thing this was since else Mr. Jason would never have a refuge to return to later on. A new alliance was formed. Polarized. With a new driving factor. The heaviest of driving foots Mr Leadfoot. The thing you need to know about Mr Leadfoot is that he drives his alliances like he plows his girls. Hot, fast and heavy. If you had a complaint in the alliance, on a top level you would be listened to but in reality ignored. As long as you followed the simple rules. Do not look for pvp. Unless. The fleet is bigger than 30. The fleet has not one but two reserve FCs. There is an assortment of capital ships backing the fleet. Batphone? Batphone! We do not need no stinking batphone. We field a hundred jokers at any time. This is all good and sensible but it also shows what kind of fleet this is. It is Bloody. Proper. Actual. Business. And anyone or anything standing in the way of Mr. Leadfoot should be aware. Now one might say that hindsight is the sight of the ass. But we told you Mr Leadfoot that blobbing it up in your fortress will lead to the simple and efficient diminishing of targets. That it will be hard to entertain hundreds of people in the same wormhole. Maybe you were too busy rage quitting eve in ducks to notice this. Exhale repeated this failure and many others. Here comes the key issue for the current state of wormhole space. What should I do? I can field a fleet of a hundred. I can dish out 10 to 20 capital ships at nearly any given time. That is big in wormhole-space. Fudgesicle. That is big in regular space too. But we will get back to this specific idea in a few paragraphs. First I will start taking on nearly any fight I can get. Even the losing ones. The members need entertainment. This is to me where you lose the elite pvp status right there. Then you will start to respond to any and all calls from other people in wormhole-space. You might call this being mercenary. But in reality, when was the last time you actually demanded payment for any operation. Mhm. And you will start to answer those bat phone calls. You no longer care if it is coming from the entity you evicted last week. Or the guys you called your enemy. Hey if there is a fight we will mobilize. This sounds fun at a glance, but then you realize that these calls do not come often and other entities know who you are and refuse to fight other than 5 vs 5 at the sun. (If anyone got hit by that arrow, with all due respect. Go kill yourself. In Game of course.) Wormhole-space needs to start making enemies and stop calling in everyone and their aunts when action is taken on this hostility. No wormhole corporation is truly a wormhole corp if they have not moved wormholes or ran from evictions. It is part of the experience. The mentality, if it moves, wherever it is, whoever it is, we need to get in on that must stop. And we are back to Polarized. Since wormhole space is dull and predictable with too big numbers. Polarized recently decided to branch out to nullsec. You can see here that polarized is now the proud owner of a station in RYC-19. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Polarized./events This is to be there base for nullsec roams. A base of operations if you may. Moons would be auctioned to interested alliance members. CTAs to protect it has already gone out. All in all. Polarized decided to go from a semi competent wormhole pvp entity to a major noob of nullsec. And this is where polarized becomes BiPolarized. As to be expected by a move of this magnitude for a wormhole corporation. The moaning and discontent has already begun. At this specific moment, the big question seems to be. Who is leaving who and forming what new alliance. So long. And thanks for all the fish (bi)polarized.
Hathrul DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized. 208	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:18:00 - [2] - Quote confirming everything might have skipped over the part with words
b1Polarized Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:21:00 - [3] - Quote thank you for your insightful response. this type of damage control, this fast really says it all.
Fradle Beavercreek Popcorn Festival Patrons 53	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote A sad day indeed when a well known WH corp decides they want to try and be a nullsecer... a sad day indeed.
ROSSLINDEN0 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 102	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:45:00 - [5] - Quote Sounds like a good idea to base my roams out of a station in the middle of blue space, using any of the random nullsec wh's off your actual wh is just ********
Casirio DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized. 447	Posted - 2013.04.25 21:55:00 - [6] - Quote max butthurt fan alt detected. this wall of ** is so completely off its hilarious. max had a grand vision of making en 24 battle reports and having a nullsec station with his corps name on it. deep and obstergo have always been exhale, and Probe, deep, and obstergo are polarized. ive flown with exhale since obstergo joined, and since PP joined, weve never had a better group. this person is obviously a butthurt excorp members because words are written from outside eyes looking in, thinking they know what the ** is up.
b1Polarized Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:00:00 - [7] - Quote Casirio wrote: max butthurt fan alt detected. this wall of ** is so completely off its hilarious. max had a grand vision of making en 24 battle reports and having a nullsec station with his corps name on it. deep and obstergo have always been exhale, and Probe, deep, and obstergo are polarized. ive flown with exhale since obstergo joined, and since PP joined, weve never had a better group. this person is obviously a butthurt excorp members because words are written from outside eyes looking in, thinking they know what the ** is up. this was a fishing expedition. nicely confirmed. tool.
Casirio DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized. 447	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:03:00 - [8] - Quote b1Polarized wrote: Casirio wrote: max butthurt fan alt detected. this wall of ** is so completely off its hilarious. max had a grand vision of making en 24 battle reports and having a nullsec station with his corps name on it. deep and obstergo have always been exhale, and Probe, deep, and obstergo are polarized. ive flown with exhale since obstergo joined, and since PP joined, weve never had a better group. this person is obviously a butthurt excorp members because words are written from outside eyes looking in, thinking they know what the ** is up. this was a fishing expedition. nicely confirmed. tool. point proven, you couldnt even leave the alliance without a page long BR. gg m8
Yaaar's Revenge The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 52	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:04:00 - [9] - Quote Hathrul wrote: confirming everything might have skipped over the part with words Best response EVAR
Indo Nira DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized. 52	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:05:00 - [10] - Quote your shoes are awesome.
Nurza Tzestu Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:17:00 - [11] - Quote Fradle wrote: A sad day indeed when a well known WH corp decides they want to try and be a nullsecer... a sad day indeed. mm.. i agree 16:27 Polarized. transfered control of the station RYC-19 III - We are quite friendly in RYC-19 (Scalding Pass) from Explorer Corps Capital to Explorer Corps.
Ahost Gceo Obstergo Polarized. 2	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:21:00 - [12] - Quote Keep your nullsec station and your blues, I don't want them.
Afuran Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:22:00 - [13] - Quote What is this post for?
Rengas AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 153	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:35:00 - [14] - Quote b1Polarized wrote: stuf So what was your point exactly?
Jack Miton Aperture Harmonics K162 1699	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:48:00 - [15] - Quote Alt post, didnt read. Afuran wrote: What is this post for? mostly being butthurt by the sounds of it.
Calmatt DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized. 16	Posted - 2013.04.26 00:28:00 - [16] - Quote Can't post on your main? Not worth the time to read.
Count Maldren Obstergo Polarized. 0	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:23:00 - [17] - Quote VIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMESVIDEO GAMES
Winthorp Straya. Scrapyard. 128	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:25:00 - [18] - Quote U MAD BRO?
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 394	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:26:00 - [19] - Quote Fradle wrote: A sad day indeed when a well known WH corp decides they want to try and be a nullsecer... a sad day indeed. Wormhole space is the best training ground for the next step up, which i'd argue is nullsec. I could only *dream* of actually owning sov and having ourselves appear on the map. But for individual corporations with such aspirations, wormhole space is the only option. And i only skimmed the OP, as he didn't post with his main, meaning is opinion is mostly worthless. Post with your main, like a BOSS!
Proclus Diadochu Obstergo Polarized. 236	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:26:00 - [20] - Quote Well, I tried to read it. tl;dr? ~Boredom Breeds Direction~
Kuning Obstergo Polarized. 29	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:30:00 - [21] - Quote Xen Solarus wrote: Fradle wrote: A sad day indeed when a well known WH corp decides they want to try and be a nullsecer... a sad day indeed. Wormhole space is the best training ground for the next step up, which i'd argue is nullsec. I could only *dream* of actually owning sov and having ourselves appear on the map. But for individual corporations with such aspirations, wormhole space is the only option. And i only skimmed the OP, as he didn't post with his main, meaning his opinion is mostly worthless. Nullsec is a downgrade from WH-space. It's basically just lowsec without gate guns. If you want danger, you come to WH space
Rengas AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 153	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:34:00 - [22] - Quote Actually if you want danger you take your freighter to Jita.
Fradle Beavercreek Popcorn Festival Patrons 55	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:36:00 - [23] - Quote Kuning wrote: Xen Solarus wrote: Fradle wrote: A sad day indeed when a well known WH corp decides they want to try and be a nullsecer... a sad day indeed. Wormhole space is the best training ground for the next step up, which i'd argue is nullsec. I could only *dream* of actually owning sov and having ourselves appear on the map. But for individual corporations with such aspirations, wormhole space is the only option. And i only skimmed the OP, as he didn't post with his main, meaning his opinion is mostly worthless. Nullsec is a downgrade from WH-space. It's basically just lowsec without gate guns. If you want danger, you come to WH space Eh, currently it's if you want chain rolling a hole with a huge fleet to not get any fights... or to fight at the sun you choose WHs. This is coming from someone that has lived in WHs since they came out until recently. WHs just don't get you the fights they do like they used to.... and tbh they're pretty safe unless you're stupid. Everyone should live in WHs.
Jack Miton Aperture Harmonics K162 1703	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:22:00 - [24] - Quote Xen Solarus wrote: Fradle wrote: A sad day indeed when a well known WH corp decides they want to try and be a nullsecer... a sad day indeed. Wormhole space is the best training ground for the next step up, which i'd argue is nullsec. I could only *dream* of actually owning sov and having ourselves appear on the map. But for individual corporations with such aspirations, wormhole space is the only option. And i only skimmed the OP, as he didn't post with his main, meaning his opinion is mostly worthless. mate, WHs have litterally nothing to do with being prepared for nullsec. the pve is different, the pvp is totally different, the ships flow, tactics used, fleet comps are all totally different. not to mention the political side of things.
Aquila Sagitta Risk-Averse PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS 8	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:24:00 - [25] - Quote Fradle wrote: Eh, currently it's if you want chain rolling a hole with a huge fleet to not get any fights... or to fight at the sun you choose WHs. This is coming from someone that has lived in WHs since they came out until recently. WHs just don't get you the fights they do like they used to.... and tbh they're pretty safe unless you're stupid. Everyone should live in WHs. If people aren't getting the fights they want then why are these giant wh alliances still here? If these giant wh alliances aren't getting quality fights anymore then their skills are gonna degrade... Which opens a niche for smaller more elite wh alliances. The best of the best. Or these giant wh alliances will break apart. Or maybe even the wh alliances are just to e-famous and need to remake there alliance into someone unknown to get fights (not sure how long that would last lol)
Sushi Nardieu Bite Me inc Bitten. 120	Posted - 2013.04.26 04:35:00 - [26] - Quote you just KNOW polarized are gonna get some bigger fish knocking on their station door now. You can't plex for T3s forever... The Guns of Knowledge-á
Rengas AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 154	Posted - 2013.04.26 04:38:00 - [27] - Quote Aquila Sagitta wrote: Fradle wrote: Eh, currently it's if you want chain rolling a hole with a huge fleet to not get any fights... or to fight at the sun you choose WHs. This is coming from someone that has lived in WHs since they came out until recently. WHs just don't get you the fights they do like they used to.... and tbh they're pretty safe unless you're stupid. Everyone should live in WHs. If people aren't getting the fights they want then why are these giant wh alliances still here? If these giant wh alliances aren't getting quality fights anymore then their skills are gonna degrade... Which opens a niche for smaller more elite wh alliances. The best of the best. Or these giant wh alliances will break apart. Or maybe even the wh alliances are just to e-famous and need to remake there alliance into someone unknown to get fights (not sure how long that would last lol) WH pvp is just inherently risk-averse. Groups don't usually commit to a fight unless they've scouted their opponents three or four holes down the chain, or they're fighting in their home system and thus have cap support etc. etc. There are of course exceptions to the rules and props to the guys who yolo it up.
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Polarized. 129	Posted - 2013.04.26 06:16:00 - [28] - Quote I tried to run the OPs post through Google translate but I couldn't find a Butt Hurt to English option... Polarized is alive and well, running a wide range of fleets through a variety of areas. In fact the future is so bright I might have to wear shades Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Roime Shiva Furnace 2635	Posted - 2013.04.26 07:08:00 - [29] - Quote NPC corp alts shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
Ponch Valdez Dark Energy. 1	Posted - 2013.04.26 07:45:00 - [30] - Quote Sounds like an interesting direction to take.. I wonder if they're serious or just messing about in null for a few giggles. I don't see any harm in it, it's like taking the null roams a lot of us do anyway to the next level, mix it up a bit, as previously pointed out though if a larger entity wants to take a poke at them it may not end well.. I for one would personally rally for some fights like that though

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