Making mining sites so they have to be scanned down, and not static, I like that. Making it so that they are found with the on board scanner; hmmmm... while in High, Low, and Null sec this makes little difference as to how quickly a miner can be found. It does however appear to be able too foil the bot miners. In Wild space, this will spell certain doom for miners. It is already difficult to mine in Wild space. With no static belts, and only 'random' spawn of grav sites. The only chance miners have in wildspace is the off chance they catch probes or unknown ships on the D scanner. With targeting being what it is in EVE even having a combat fleet on standby in the grav site with the miners will not stop them from meeting death should someone with less than noble intentions suddenly show their face. It's not like you can sit someone on the gates to the system and know when people come in. Sure you can sit scouts on the known worm holes. But the random incoming holes, the only defense against those is the D scanner. Making mining now more like anomaly sites takes away that slim chance that miners currently have in wildspace.

I'm not spending it mining. I'm spending it in SWTOR. The limited possibilities available for small 45 minute chunks of time in Eve already lost my playing time...

I like to just exist in EVE - listen to music and get immersed in graphics, and it has worked for me since 2009. Realistically I cannot dedicated focused time to EVE - and group time, even less. Although group play keeps retention up for youngsters (teens, 20's <35), pushing to adopt group play is not going to retain me - it's will do the opposite.

It's not a disadvantge. It is a counter measure. Those of us miners who learned the scanning skills have a counter to gankers, i.e., we can see the probes on Dscan. As it will be, the miners counter measure has been emliminated. This is the real disadvantge in this equation.

Mining very very very boring process. You could mine hour and nothing will happen. For example i use 5 accounts for mining and they all have mackinaws. W\o bonuses it take 30 min to fill 100% ore bay. So i can be still at PC, working or watching moves and cheking every few minutes local for enemy. Becuase i know that it will take a time to find me.
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In other words - nobody want to sit down and watch how cool barge drill asteroids, only because of fear of potential enemy. And you will be rewarded less then NPC hunting. You need new mining mechanic for make this work. I mean interesing mining, not boring mining.

Thanks alot Fozzie you just shut down my pos.

that "warning" comes at the end of a cycle so you loose that cycles yield and since roids don't deplete at the same time you end up having to adjust your beams 3 or 4 times per miner -- trust me there is a reason people AFK ice, not roids.

Hey guys, I'm back from Fanfest and my day in bed starting the recovery from the Fanfest flu. I've read through the whole thread now. Thanks for all your feedback. I'm gonna start by answering a few common or important questions from the thread:

I will not make the usual "omg ragequit" statements but personally I will be allowing most of my mining alts to lapse as I see the new system as taking change too far.