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Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3308	Posted - 2013.04.27 15:20:00 - [1] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: Realistic one is that mining dies completely in hisec. realistic. i'm not sure that word means what you think it means. Can you tell me what's going on here ? Did i miss anything ? Why should regular ore mining suddenly stop/be reduced ?
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3308	Posted - 2013.04.27 15:26:00 - [2] - Quote Woah ! I've actually read them yesterday ... but i have no idea about this. Why would that drop prices ? Wouldn't it rather make more sense to believe that nullsec alliances need all this ore for thems... oh .............................
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3308	Posted - 2013.04.27 15:30:00 - [3] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Solstice Project wrote: Woah ! I've actually read them yesterday ... but i have no idea about this. Why would that drop prices ? Wouldn't it rather make more sense to believe that nullsec alliances need all this ore for thems... oh ............................. increased supply = lower price assuming constant demand. economics 101. "thems... oh ................................." Well ... that's ... bad. Makes me wonder if the ship rebalances (and the increased mineral demands for these ships) will compensate for that ...
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3310	Posted - 2013.04.27 16:42:00 - [4] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Here's the point where I start asking myself why I insist on arguing with trolls. because like me, you've got nothing better to do while you watch the art team at fanfest? The Pegasus. That's some assugly ship and it reminds me of Number 5. (the robot, from the movie)
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3324	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:09:00 - [5] - Quote I want reduced CONCORD reaction times in deeper space. Then, maybe even i would start shooting miners. (No)
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3325	Posted - 2013.04.28 19:42:00 - [6] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Malcanis wrote: Mynna is telling me that hi-sec ice mining is going to be upwards of 40M/hr "Oh god the horrror, my income is going to be 6x higher, CCP why must you torment us in this way?" Except there ain't gonna be any ice for most of us, who don't do Ice Camping. So it may be 60x profits, it's just nobody gets them. I'll create 20 alts and start mining ice, just to **** off everybody ............... And, to make it even better: After each day of mining ice, before i log off, i'll drop all of it into a jetcan and blow it up. Man, that sounds hilarious ! XD
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3326	Posted - 2013.04.28 20:44:00 - [7] - Quote Nathalie LaPorte wrote: Dave Stark wrote: be a bro, sell it to me at a reduced price instead. you make isk, i make isk, AND you **** off the miners. Were I to make a list of the people whom I'd least expect to have the words "be a bro" directed at, Solstice Project would have been at the top of the list. This can be taken as a compliment, although i don't really know your POV. To my defense, though ... you don't know me ingame. :p Forums are a totally different act. ^_^
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3326	Posted - 2013.04.28 20:46:00 - [8] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: That is an overoptimistic prediction as it looks to me, and even like this, hisec mining won't survive. How does that even make sense ?
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3326	Posted - 2013.04.28 20:49:00 - [9] - Quote In any way ... Completely ignoring what i have learned from dave, namely that no matter what minerals are worth, miners actually always make the same amount of money relative to what everything else costs ... (did i say that the right way ?) If the masses of miners were smart. they'd hire suicide gankers to get rid of competition ... ... but sadly, only a few actually are smart ...
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3326	Posted - 2013.04.28 20:55:00 - [10] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Solstice Project wrote: In any way ... Completely ignoring what i have learned from dave, namely that no matter what minerals are worth, miners actually always make the same amount of money relative to what everything else costs ... (did i say that the right way ?) If the masses of miners were smart. they'd hide suicide gankers to get rid of competition ... ... but sadly, only a few actually are smart ... There is no competition right now, so every account in catalyst might as well be mining. There may be so much competition in odyssey, that every account in catalyst is going to meet two catalysts already ganking his target. I totally fail to understand your logic. Dave's a miner. Dave taught me that it's completely irrelevant if a miner makes one, three, five, twelve isk per [mineral], because prices of all the things build with [mineral] will go up/down accordingly, meaning that the miner actually always makes the same value of money. I just fail to explain it in a way that makes sense.
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3326	Posted - 2013.04.28 20:59:00 - [11] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Magic! Have a like ! :D
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3328	Posted - 2013.04.28 21:23:00 - [12] - Quote This really went far enough. I must ask all gankers and bumpers to combine to one gigantic force to get rid of all miners once and for all. Then we can monopolize highsec mining by allowing only alts to mine and dictate prices as we please. (hahahahahahahaha, wishfull thinking)
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3328	Posted - 2013.04.28 21:30:00 - [13] - Quote Oh btw ... Dave, have you already declared support for the optional High Resolution Texture Pack ?
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3330	Posted - 2013.04.28 21:36:00 - [14] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Solstice Project wrote: Oh btw ... Dave, have you already declared support for the optional High Resolution Texture Pack ? no, because i don't care. Well, if you don't care, you could as well declare support !
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3330	Posted - 2013.04.28 21:38:00 - [15] - Quote celebro wrote: I wish I could, but due to RL constraints , not possible. Too bad CCP, most wont change their play style to suit your changes. Believing that RL time issues keep people from playing in lowsec just displays how bad you are at this game ... ... but your post sounds more like a lie anyway. (edit: assuming it's time. because anything else doesn't make sense) (except stupidity, maybe)
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3330	Posted - 2013.04.28 22:14:00 - [16] - Quote So ... random guy believes higher SP are a necessity for combat, although those who actually know better try to tell him that this isn't the case. What the random guy here does, is believing that he knows what he is talking about, although he factually can not. He's completely blind to the fact that he's avoiding to see that the only real issue is his own capability/inadequacy/lack of experience. Doesn't seem to fit. Anyway, what i see from all the people talking with him about this, is that nobody actually knows what the random guy really is talking about. He doesn't give any actual information as of why he believes more SP are needed and within this lies the issue why others fail to communicate that SP aren't important. "defeat", "avoid", etc. don't give any data about the situations he was in or the choices that were made. To solve the problem, the right questions need to be asked. No, i won't. That's your part. ^_^
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3330	Posted - 2013.04.28 22:25:00 - [17] - Quote Basil Pupkin wrote: Tippia wrote: Basil Pupkin wrote: Broken due to ignorance, inexperience, and lack of actually sitting down to see what SP do. Fixed. It is quite obvious that everyone who engages in pvp maxed out his pvp skills in years of playing. In equal ships they beat you in range, damage, speed and defence. And they're gonna have better ships and better fits - comes with years of SP accumulation. Until you're maxed out like they are, you lose. That is SP bound game for you. Why do you refuse to accept what people with actual combat experience say ?
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3330	Posted - 2013.04.28 22:32:00 - [18] - Quote Ryu Ibarazaki wrote: This guy seems to be trolling, but to anyone else reading this it is never too ~~late~~early to get into player vs player combat in EVE. Fixed that for you.

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