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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4746
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:27:00 -
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Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow |

Dave Stark
2891
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:28:00 -
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mynnna malcanis
well i'm happy.
congratulations to them all. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
644
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:28:00 -
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Well, all my top 3 made it. Hard to recall the rest of my list at the moment though.
Congrats to the winners |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13866
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:29:00 -
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Excellent :MrBurns: GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
862
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:30:00 -
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It's a good list for the most part. Too bad P Monk didn't make it... CCP has no sense of humour. |

Dave Stark
2891
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:34:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:It's a good list for the most part. Too bad P Monk didn't make it... indeed. |

NickyYo
SpaceFroggy
356
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:36:00 -
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The only people who realy vote for CSM's are theforum whores; i guess that means we get another tard CSM who bullies people at fanfests etc. .. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1659
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:37:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow
Old Lex Malcanis: "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
New Lex Malcanis: "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', Kiss Mal's ares because I am now your GOD"
The coup is coming, Malcanis for Prime Minister of Iceland 2014. From their to General Secretary of the U.N.. Then it's ON. |

Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
14
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:39:00 -
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As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. |

James Arget
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
112
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:41:00 -
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WHOOOO!!! **** YEAH!!!
I'll gain decorum later, for now I'm just happy.
SUCK IT NULLSEC, WORMHOLES ARE CSM NOW! James Arget for CSM 8! Wormholes and the Player Perspective
http://csm.fcftw.org |

admiral root
Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
507
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:41:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
Can I have your stuff before you biomass and unsubscibe? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
50
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:42:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
Confirming; Eve is dying. And so on. [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |

Jess Maine
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
48
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:42:00 -
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James Arget wrote:WHOOOO!!! **** YEAH!!!
I'll gain decorum later, for now I'm just happy.
SUCK IT NULLSEC, WORMHOLES ARE CSM NOW!
Wat, theres more nullsec representitives there an WH's. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1659
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:43:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
No one High Sec wants to kill MUST high sec, it's very important to the DIE eve online screwHIGHSEC experience.
Also please don't read between the lines.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
945
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:44:00 -
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I pushed real hard for Mika Azariah & Ripard Teg so I'm sorta happy... but the voter apathy was atrocious. Cumpulsory Suffferage for CSM9 
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

James Arget
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
112
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:44:00 -
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Jess Maine wrote:James Arget wrote:WHOOOO!!! **** YEAH!!!
I'll gain decorum later, for now I'm just happy.
SUCK IT NULLSEC, WORMHOLES ARE CSM NOW! Wat, theres more nullsec representitives there an WH's. After all the talk of a nullsec sweep, doubling the number of CSMs who are primarily WH reps is pretty fantastic. James Arget for CSM 8! Wormholes and the Player Perspective
http://csm.fcftw.org |

Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
120
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:46:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:The only people who realy vote for CSM's are theforum whores; i guess that means we get another tard CSM who bullies people at fanfests etc.
they are also apparently the only people who believe it is a position of power greater than class rep for space nerds. freelance space bum |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
346
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:47:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
Biomass, and contract me your stuff then. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
945
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:48:00 -
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Did Hilmar actually announce who the CSM chair is?
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami Moon Warriors
325
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:49:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow
'grats everyone!
Now don't break our game. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13866
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:52:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. Oh my. Why does GÇ£highsecGÇ¥ so often remind me of a fat man who's being told that cookies for breakfast, lunch and dinner might not be the best of ideas? 
Thank [favourite higher power] that this is not actually a representative view for most highsec residents. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami Moon Warriors
325
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:53:00 -
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As long as each sector gets their fair share it's cool.
Too much null is just as bad as too much highsec -shrug-. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
589
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:54:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Did Hilmar actually announce who the CSM chair is?
he did not yet announce the 'iceland two'
chair is elected by the csm |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
866
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:55:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. Eh, you guys get Ripard "Isk-Tank" Teg and a few small-time "casual player" representatives, I don't know what you're complaining about.
tbh Ripard is about the only terrible thing about this list for anybody. CCP has no sense of humour. |

Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:59:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. Eh, you guys get Ripard "Isk-Tank" Teg and a few small-time "casual player" representatives, i don't know what you're complaining about. tbh Ripard is about the only terrible thing about this list for anybody.
Well unless you're really into e-bushido and unironically think ganking is equivalent to sexual assault |

Dave Stark
2893
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:04:00 -
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confirming 14 of the best minds in eve being on the csm will ruin the game. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8888
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:06:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow Old Lex Malcanis: "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players." New Lex Malcanis: "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', Kiss Mal's ares because I am now your GOD" The coup is coming, Malcanis for Prime Minister of Iceland 2014. From their to General Secretary of the U.N.. Then it's ON.
I have never flown an Ares. Malcanis' Law:-á "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
868
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:06:00 -
[28] - Quote
Bolow Santosi wrote:Well unless you're really into e-bushido and unironically think ganking is equivalent to sexual assault To be fair he only claimed ganking was equivalent to sexual assault to drive traffic to his terrible blog only that's not what he actually did and we shouldn't put words in his mouth. CCP has no sense of humour. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8888
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:07:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
2/3 hi-sec candidates made it in, I'm not sure how much better you coud have wanted it. Malcanis' Law:-á "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
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mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
99
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:08:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:confirming 14 of the best minds in eve being on the csm will ruin the game.
Confirmed, I want inexperienced knuckleheads who think highsec vs nullsec is actually a thing.
The history of all hithero existing internet spaceships is the history of null vs highsec.
______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
935
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow
this is a good list...
though i do hope they elect malcanis as the chairman
and trebor as the sec
mynnna as the vice Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Kharamete
Feral Solutions Inc
8
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:19:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:[quote=James Amril-Kesh] The coup is coming, Malcanis for Prime Minister of Iceland 2014. From their to General Secretary of the U.N.. Then it's ON. I have never flown an Ares.
It was me. All my accounts voted for you. Congratulations. Now try not to disappoint too much. Raise hell. |

Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates The Retirement Club
174
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:24:00 -
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mama guru wrote:Dave Stark wrote:confirming 14 of the best minds in eve being on the csm will ruin the game. Confirmed, I want inexperienced knuckleheads who think highsec vs nullsec is actually a thing. The history of all hithero existing internet spaceships is the history of null vs highsec.
mama, just in case I'm reading this wrong, you are not saying that nullsec vs highsec is a viable driver for confict are you? If you are then that is a terrible indictment for null. I hope you are referring, instead, to a percieved battle within the CSM and would agree with you that it is important that all CSM members work together in the best interests of the game as a whole.
Congrats to all CSM elects. It has been a very interesting couple of months reading blogs, listening to podcasts and following the debates on the forums. Big shout out to all those in the wider EVE community that have facilitated, through a wide range of media, in getting the importance of the CSM and the election out to the general playerbase.
Now, new CSM'ers, since you won't need to undock ever again, can I haz your stuff? |

mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
100
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:29:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:mama guru wrote:Dave Stark wrote:confirming 14 of the best minds in eve being on the csm will ruin the game. Confirmed, I want inexperienced knuckleheads who think highsec vs nullsec is actually a thing. The history of all hithero existing internet spaceships is the history of null vs highsec. mama, just in case I'm reading this wrong, you are not saying that nullsec vs highsec is a viable driver for confict are you? If you are then that is a terrible indictment for null. I hope you are referring, instead, to a percieved battle within the CSM and would agree with you that it is important that all CSM members work together in the best interests of the game as a whole.Congrats to all CSM elects. It has been a very interesting couple of months reading blogs, listening to podcasts and following the debates on the forums. Big shout out to all those in the wider EVE community that have facilitated, through a wide range of media, in getting the importance of the CSM and the election out to the general playerbase. Now, new CSM'ers, since you won't need to undock ever again, can I haz your stuff? 
Not within the CSM, but within the playerbase itself. EVE is all interconnected, there is no PVE vs PVP debate to be had in this game. High, Null and Low are all equally relevant since you can't make due without all three. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8889
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:30:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow this is a good list... though i do hope they elect malcanis as the chairman and trebor as the sec mynnna as the vice
It's nice of you to say so, but I have no desire for any of the CSM officer roles.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8889
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:31:00 -
[36] - Quote
Kinis Deren wrote:mama guru wrote:Dave Stark wrote:confirming 14 of the best minds in eve being on the csm will ruin the game. Confirmed, I want inexperienced knuckleheads who think highsec vs nullsec is actually a thing. The history of all hithero existing internet spaceships is the history of null vs highsec. mama, just in case I'm reading this wrong,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony?s=t&path=/
1 Kings 12:11
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stoicfaux
2625
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:39:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:I pushed real hard for Mika Azariah & Ripard Teg so I'm sorta happy... but the voter apathy was atrocious. Cumpulsory Suffferage for CSM9   Any numbers (or link) on the apathy?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8890
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:45:00 -
[38] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:I pushed real hard for Mika Azariah & Ripard Teg so I'm sorta happy... but the voter apathy was atrocious. Cumpulsory Suffferage for CSM9   Any numbers (or link) on the apathy?
49k voters this year
It is atrocious.
1 Kings 12:11
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
256
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:45:00 -
[39] - Quote
Grats, winners. 4/5 of my list made it in, I'm happy. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
935
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:48:00 -
[40] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:MeBiatch wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ali Aras Chitsa Jason James Arget Kesper North Korvin Malcanis Mangala Solaris Mika Azariah Mynna Ripard Teg ProGodLegend Sala Cameron Sort Dragon Trebor Daehdoow this is a good list... though i do hope they elect malcanis as the chairman and trebor as the sec mynnna as the vice It's nice of you to say so, but I have no desire for any of the CSM officer roles.
thats sad to here...
ok i guess the role goes to mynna? always good to have a fellow tribe member be in charge then... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
935
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:49:00 -
[41] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:stoicfaux wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:I pushed real hard for Mika Azariah & Ripard Teg so I'm sorta happy... but the voter apathy was atrocious. Cumpulsory Suffferage for CSM9   Any numbers (or link) on the apathy? 49k voters this year It is atrocious.
which ironically eneded up being the same total votes counted to member of csm 7...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8891
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:53:00 -
[42] - Quote
With a considerably higher subscriber count.
And another year to build up the CSM's profile.
time to do better
1 Kings 12:11
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stoicfaux
2626
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:56:00 -
[43] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:With a considerably higher subscriber count.
And another year to build up the CSM's profile.
time to do better Yeah, CSM8 has its work cut out for it. Might want to raid the petty cash to hire a marketing/ad agency. =/
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Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates The Retirement Club
174
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:59:00 -
[44] - Quote
mama guru wrote:
Not within the CSM, but within the playerbase itself. EVE is all interconnected, there is no PVE vs PVP debate to be had in this game. High, Null and Low are all equally relevant since you can't make due without all three.
Awesome! That echoes my feelings too O7
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8892
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:00:00 -
[45] - Quote
Kinis Deren wrote:mama guru wrote:
Not within the CSM, but within the playerbase itself. EVE is all interconnected, there is no PVE vs PVP debate to be had in this game. High, Null and Low are all equally relevant since you can't make due without all three.
Awesome! That echoes my feelings too O7
Indeed.
1 Kings 12:11
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
595
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:10:00 -
[46] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
And, despite all the whining from CSM7 to destroy high sec, what are we getting from Odyssey?
Spod will now net half the trit per M3 of veld, and a few extra outpost slots to sit largely unused in null.
CCP knows where their bread is buttered. Calls by CSM to destroy high sec and force carebears out of high sec (by them quitting the game) will continue to go largely ignored. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
233

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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
I deleted some offensive posts. Keep it civil people!
And congrats to all chosen on CSM8! ISD Ezwal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
LHA Tarawa wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. And, despite all the whining from CSM7 to destroy high sec, what are we getting from Odyssey? Spod will now net half the trit per M3 of veld, and a few extra outpost slots to sit largely unused in null. CCP knows where their bread is buttered. Calls by CSM to destroy high sec and force carebears out of high sec (by them quitting the game) will continue to go largely ignored.
Well, high sec mining got hammered, which also means high sec mission looting got hammered. Ice mining is now in the hands of cartels with the resources/ pilots to control the supply. Suicide gankers now have "buy your sec status back".
All changes were neutral to high sec income, or a transfer of wealth away from high sec. And these transfers will just accelerate with the new CSM. T2 mfg has not been wiped out from high sec, but it is on the table. The goon lead game designer has stated formally he wants to remove T2 mfg from high sec, and his position inside CCP has been strengthened in the last 6 months.
The changes announced in the last few days are just another victory for the null sec zealots in their long term campaign against high sec. Bit by bit, they chip away at wiping out high sec, and the next 2 iterations under the control of this CSM will be the death strokes. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8893
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:31:00 -
[49] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: The goon lead game designer has stated formally he wants to remove T2 mfg from high sec, and his position inside CCP has been strengthened in the last 6 months.
If it's of any comfort to you, I unreservedly oppose any such compromise of the sandbox.
1 Kings 12:11
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1466
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:31:00 -
[50] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. 'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
591
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:33:00 -
[51] - Quote
Congratulations to the winners. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1466
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:36:00 -
[52] - Quote
James Arget wrote:WHOOOO!!! **** YEAH!!!
I'll gain decorum later, for now I'm just happy.
SUCK IT NULLSEC, WORMHOLES ARE CSM NOW! Just so.  Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

JamesCLK
313
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:38:00 -
[53] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. Oh my. Why does GÇ£highsecGÇ¥ so often remind me of a fat man who's being told that cookies for breakfast, lunch and dinner might not be the best of ideas?  Thank [favourite higher power] that this is not actually a representative view for most highsec residents.
Actually they're getting Mike Azariah. I'm surprised he made it!
Surprised, but glad!
Apart from that, looks like everyone I was rooting for made it.
CSM 8 should be good!  -- -.-- / -.-. .-.. --- -. . / .. ... / - --- --- / . -..- .--. . -. ... .. ...- . / - --- / ..- -. -.. --- -.-. -.- / ... - --- .--. / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / ... . -. -.. / .... . .-.. .--. / ... - --- .--. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8899
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:51:00 -
[54] - Quote
Yeah it was pretty gratifying to see Mike finally get his reward. If anyone's earned a slot on this CSM, it's him.
Now to oppose him at every step!
1 Kings 12:11
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
348
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:53:00 -
[55] - Quote
is .. only useful for getting advance dev intel to the blue donut.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1334
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:08:00 -
[56] - Quote
I was robbed! They got more votes than I did. That's clearly against the rules (That I pencilled into my copy of the rules)
More seriously: Congrats all. I wish I could have worked with you, but I know you'll do a good job.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 8 Handy tools and SDE conversions Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
58
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 20:10:00 -
[57] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment.
This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative. They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized. http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |

EmmaFromMarketing
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
Dinsdale still forum banned? Shame
Congratulations to all taking part and those elected |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1470
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:21:00 -
[59] - Quote
rswfire wrote:silens vesica wrote:'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative. Which organization exists... where? Nowhere. Because no one can be arsed to create it, or to join it. AKA: Apathy.
Quote: They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized. 'Fraid you're mistaken, albeit with a certain naivete that gets you cut some slack. They're not well organized because they don't care to get organized; AKA: Apathetic. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
58
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:22:00 -
[60] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:rswfire wrote:silens vesica wrote:'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative. Which organization exists... where? Nowhere. Because no one can be arsed to create it, or to join it. AKA: Apathy. Quote: They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized. 'Fraid you're mistaken, albeit with a certain naivete that gets you cut some slack. They're not well organized because they don't care to get organized; AKA: Apathetic.
For now, perhaps. http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1470
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 20:24:00 -
[61] - Quote
rswfire wrote:silens vesica wrote:rswfire wrote:silens vesica wrote:'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. This is a common argument that I don't generally believe. I think the best that can be said are that many in highsec are more casual players and thus are just not as well-informed. What highsec needs is a coalition that helps to keep it informed of what is going on Eve and allows them the opportunity to better add their voices to the overall narrative. Which organization exists... where? Nowhere. Because no one can be arsed to create it, or to join it. AKA: Apathy. Quote: They're not necessarily apathetic; they're just not well-organized. 'Fraid you're mistaken, albeit with a certain naivete that gets you cut some slack. They're not well organized because they don't care to get organized; AKA: Apathetic. For now, perhaps. One hopes. When Hi-Sec awakens - if Hi-Sec awakens - it will be a great day for all. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
531
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:29:00 -
[62] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. Which is a bigger myth, EvE is a sandbox or the CSM's actually have a fundamental impact on the game? This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami Moon Warriors
328
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:30:00 -
[63] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. 'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. Quote:This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. You grant CSM far more power than is their due, yanno. I understand paranoia, but really, a bit of reading would dispel it; CSM has a seat at the table; it does not drive the agenda, nor does it make the decisions. I'm fairly content with this CSM slate. Most of my candidates made it.
Just to get the tinfoil ready... but if you have a force on the CSM aligned with a dev.... things will go in their favor.
Not that it is guaranteed to, but yea...
The game as a whole is paramount regardless however.
Half the names on the list are those I've argued with, as well as voted for.
Let's see what happens =) "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:33:00 -
[64] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:T2 mfg has not been wiped out from high sec, but it is on the table. The goon lead game designer has stated formally he wants to remove T2 mfg from high sec, and his position inside CCP has been strengthened in the last 6 months.
Okay, I'll bite. Or get bitten. Let's see.
So what if it is? As far as I can see, comparatively few people in Hisec are floating around in expensive T2 ships, far less PvPing (or even PvEing) in them. So, the T2 prices in Jita* go (further) through the roof. People who are currently buying T2 and exporting them to their own regions will now simply "buy local", as the clever bods will sell close to where they now manufacture (i.e. now in Low or Null instead of five jumps from Jita*). People who want cheaper T2 will go to Low/Null...and be forced to take a risk and interact with the people who live there.
If T2 manufacturing is removed, it will still be a level playing field for all those living only in Hisec as nobody will therefore be able to do it. And the people who do move to Low/Null to manufacture and research T2...well, isn't that just risk versus reward? A bigger carrot to tempt the resourceful and capable away from Hisec, 'tis all.
All those in favour, say "aye"!
* insert favourite trade hub here [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1471
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 20:33:00 -
[65] - Quote
Murk Paradox wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. 'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. Quote:This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. You grant CSM far more power than is their due, yanno. I understand paranoia, but really, a bit of reading would dispel it; CSM has a seat at the table; it does not drive the agenda, nor does it make the decisions. I'm fairly content with this CSM slate. Most of my candidates made it. Just to get the tinfoil ready... but if you have a force on the CSM aligned with a dev.... things will go in their favor.Not that it is guaranteed to, but yea... The game as a whole is paramount regardless however. Half the name son the list are those I've argued with, as well as voted for. Let's see what happens =) Indeed. Though I will point out there there is a LARGE amount of 'If' in the line I've bolded above. That could happen - but only if CCP agrees that that's the direction to go. Indeed, that is in part why the CSM exists - to help steer, even if they don't get final say.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1433
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:34:00 -
[66] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Some Rando wrote:It's a good list for the most part. Too bad P Monk didn't make it... indeed.
+1 One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia Malcanis for CSM8 |

None ofthe Above
529
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:39:00 -
[67] - Quote
Velicitia wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Some Rando wrote:It's a good list for the most part. Too bad P Monk didn't make it... indeed. +1
Agreed.
I think he's made a great basis for a CSM 9 run though. He came off as a little green, but very impressive. Hope to see him active throughout this year and run again.
Get on with the Podside crowd, Monk. That'll help you honing your presentation skills for the appearances next year. I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! STV working as intended; Pre-elections and Get out the Vote, room for improvement. |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami Moon Warriors
329
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:silens vesica wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec. 'Cause Hi-Sec can't be bothered to get off its dead backside and vote. Apathy is its own punishment. Quote:This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. You grant CSM far more power than is their due, yanno. I understand paranoia, but really, a bit of reading would dispel it; CSM has a seat at the table; it does not drive the agenda, nor does it make the decisions. I'm fairly content with this CSM slate. Most of my candidates made it. Just to get the tinfoil ready... but if you have a force on the CSM aligned with a dev.... things will go in their favor.Not that it is guaranteed to, but yea... The game as a whole is paramount regardless however. Half the name son the list are those I've argued with, as well as voted for. Let's see what happens =) Indeed. Though I will point out there there is a LARGE amount of ' If' in the line I've bolded above. That could happen - but only if CCP agrees that that's the direction to go. Indeed, that is in part why the CSM exists - to help steer, even if they don't get final say.
Yea my fear would be an unfair agenda. Hitting from 2 fronts to push whatever self serving goals that agenda contains.
Not that I'm bitter or pessimistic. I like this game and intend to play it as it unfolds.
But I'm not going to ignore the possibility. This is also WHY we have the CSM. So I guess you have 1 side saying "it's your fault for how you voted" but the flip side is that people who play casually are just as important as the hardcore, and any detriment to their game that is not "fairly" gained is well, unfortunate and sad =/. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
151
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:35:00 -
[69] - Quote
As a fairly casual player most of the time (just a wee bit too much RL intrusion when I have work) I'm pretty happy with this CSM, most of the people I voted for are in.
Let's hope they can keep their love of EVE as a whole foremost in their thoughts. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1479
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:43:00 -
[70] - Quote
Murk Paradox wrote: So I guess you have 1 side saying "it's your fault for how you voted" but the flip side is that people who play casually are just as important as the hardcore, and any detriment to their game that is not "fairly" gained is well, unfortunate and sad =/.
True points - But the side pointing fingers (folks like me, to hose whom failed to speak up) are absolutely right. If Hi-Sec can't be bothered to support their own interests, well, they're going to have to shut up and pray that those who did vote care to protect their apathetic backsides.
Which we probably will do, because they are important. But they're not going to get any special consideration unless the one or two (depending on how you interpret their stances) Hi-Sec CSM members are able to make up for the general apathy of Hi-Sec. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
595
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 21:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
silens vesica wrote: If Hi-Sec can't be bothered to support their own interests, well, they're going to have to shut up and pray that those who did vote care to protect their apathetic backsides.
Or, they can just continue to rely on CCP to know where the revenue stream comes from. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1479
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 21:53:00 -
[72] - Quote
LHA Tarawa wrote:silens vesica wrote: If Hi-Sec can't be bothered to support their own interests, well, they're going to have to shut up and pray that those who did vote care to protect their apathetic backsides.
Or, they can just continue to rely on CCP to know where the revenue stream comes from. Certainly possible - Though CCP is hardly fool-proof, either. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
595
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 22:02:00 -
[73] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: Well, high sec mining got hammered, which also means high sec mission looting got hammered.
It doesn't follow.
Yes, it will require fewer miners to supply null with low end minerals. As mineral prices drop, many currently mining will just switch back to mission running.
I see no reason to believe that mineral prices will stray far from mission/mine potential profit. The net effect on loot refine will be MUCH smaller than the removal of M0 was.
Perhaps, CCP will once and for all remove M1-4 drop and make those player invented/manufactured, reversing the extra low ends coming from null. Wrecks could drop items that are used in the invention process.
Also, do not forget the new capital rigs, which should serve as quite a demand boost to salvage demand and a boost for mission salvage.
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: Ice mining is now in the hands of cartels with the resources/ pilots to control the supply.
We shall see. When I lived in null in the past, we did much of our ice mining there in null. 50 reduction in cycle times should drastically increase the ice coming from null. I am not convinced that high sec able to produce 80% of current usage is going to create much of a bottleneck on ice.
Again, the beauty is... we'll see soon enough.
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: Suicide gankers now have "buy your sec status back".
And, someone is going to have to grind those tags. As CCP pointed out before, the time required to grind the tags should be about the same as it takes to grind standings back. I suspect that tag prices will keep this option to fairly limited usage. It's gonna be expensive.
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: All changes were neutral to high sec income, or a transfer of wealth away from high sec.
Except the salvage boost from capital rigs. AND, I'm not convinced that the mineral changes won't hit high end minerals even harder than it hurts low end ore prices. If null miners start mining more B and C to get at the trit and pyrite, it could really crush the price of high end ores.
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: And these transfers will just accelerate with the new CSM.
Assuming the conclusion. I think the null buffs are actually pretty minor.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1664
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:02:00 -
[74] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:
If it's of any comfort to you, I unreservedly oppose any such compromise of the sandbox.
LOL, So I was curious as to your new sig Mal...
1 Kings 12:11-Yes, my father laid heavy burdens on you, but I'm going to make them even heavier! My father beat you with whips, but I will beat you with scorpions.
Scorpions? That shows a definite Caldari Bias. We need mor eGallente on CSM 9! |

Trit
Q-Tech Solutions
62
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Posted - 2013.04.29 07:36:00 -
[75] - Quote
CSM is no longer relevent. Argueably it never was.
If CCP needs our opinion Mittani will start a threadnaught and give it to them. Shine on Crazy Nubbins |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
138
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Posted - 2013.04.29 07:39:00 -
[76] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
What are you smoking? Trebor is in there, and Mangala will be reasonable on that topic. In any case what do you mean final nails? Coming from 2008 high sec is a whole heck of a lot safer now and I would say pretty balanced for new players. |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
138
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Posted - 2013.04.29 07:49:00 -
[77] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote: The goon lead game designer has stated formally he wants to remove T2 mfg from high sec, and his position inside CCP has been strengthened in the last 6 months.
I'm sorry but anything you say is null and void by the fact that you think that someone who was formally in Goonswarm and now works for CCP would risk their job to do anything to help them. That is you being a master of the tinfoil and really not understanding anything. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8942
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Posted - 2013.04.29 07:58:00 -
[78] - Quote
dark heartt wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. What are you smoking? Trebor is in there, and Mangala will be reasonable on that topic. In any case what do you mean final nails? Coming from 2008 high sec is a whole heck of a lot safer now and I would say pretty balanced for new players.
I'm afraid you haven't realised just how dastardly the sinister null sec cabal's plans are. The last 5 years of endless hi-sec buffs were merely to increase the size of the herd to be culled. More victims, more tears, you see?
In fact we'll probably keep it going for another year, just to make the final payoff extra big!
1 Kings 12:11
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dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
138
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Posted - 2013.04.29 08:00:00 -
[79] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:dark heartt wrote:Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve. What are you smoking? Trebor is in there, and Mangala will be reasonable on that topic. In any case what do you mean final nails? Coming from 2008 high sec is a whole heck of a lot safer now and I would say pretty balanced for new players. I'm afraid you haven't realised just how dastardly the sinister null sec cabal's plans are. The last 5 years of endless hi-sec buffs were merely to increase the size of the herd to be culled. More victims, more tears, you see? In fact we'll probably keep it going for another year, just to make the final payoff extra big!
Oh man I would love to see that. It would be truly in the spirit of Eve for something like that to happen. |

ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1238
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Posted - 2013.04.29 08:20:00 -
[80] - Quote
Now if only I could remember who I voted for... You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami Moon Warriors
329
|
Posted - 2013.04.29 15:12:00 -
[81] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Murk Paradox wrote: So I guess you have 1 side saying "it's your fault for how you voted" but the flip side is that people who play casually are just as important as the hardcore, and any detriment to their game that is not "fairly" gained is well, unfortunate and sad =/.
True points - But the side pointing fingers (folks like me, to those whom failed to speak up) are absolutely right. If Hi-Sec can't be bothered to support their own interests, well, they're going to have to shut up and pray that those who did vote care to protect their apathetic backsides. Which we probably will do, because they are important. But they're not going to get any special consideration unless the one or two (depending on how you interpret their stances) Hi-Sec CSM members are able to make up for the general apathy of Hi-Sec.
This is where we see the CSM become players and not pilots. They should represent the entire pie, not just a slice. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1363
|
Posted - 2013.04.29 15:33:00 -
[82] - Quote
Gratz everyone. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Haulie Berry
551
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:39:00 -
[83] - Quote
Dilbert HighSeed wrote:As predicted, a disaster for high sec.
This CSM will end up driving the final nails into high sec's coffin. I am sure they will be high-fiving each other by Aug 2014, giggling at all the damage they have wrought with the largest meta-gank of the largest population of Eve.
I mostly play in high sec.
Everyone I voted for (I did not fill my whole ticket) made it, except P. Monk.
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Signal11th
The Retirement Club
958
|
Posted - 2013.05.01 15:02:00 -
[84] - Quote
pointless God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Danni stark
67
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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:11:00 -
[85] - Quote
Signal11th wrote:pointless
such a cynic. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |
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