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Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
34
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:53:00 -
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Watch how high sec burns, as this group can do more damage in an afternoon to high sec than any ganking campaign by sociopaths can do in a year.
The 3 goals of this CSM, in no particular order are :
1. Wiping out high sec incursion income by at least half.
That one is easy enough to do, and can be accomplished by changing about 8 static variables on payouts (4 size classes, LP and ISK/ each size class). The wh group of course is all for it, since it "convinces" members of wh groups who make marginal income (by wh standards) to return to their wh groups, and the same goes for wh players of rich groups who were not getting their fair share of the blue loot and left them. The null sec contingent, are actually more ambivalent about this since a large number of their player base are far too incompetent to take advantage of the riches of null, and run Incursions now. However, null will need / attract a lot more miners now making Incursion-like money, and when those people start returning to null, that means null will have no further use of high sec incursions, and will then allow CCP to slaughter the ISK / hour.
2. Removing T2 production from high sec.
Greyscale and soundwave are both on record in these forums about their desire to remove T2 mfg from high sec. Given the the additional mfg slots now available in null, it is only natural that null sec will encourage this, since there is no longer any impediment to production there. This will create another huge income stream for the cartel leadership, as they will have the ability to skim off the top using science and mfg slot taxes. If T2 invention is removed from high sec, people will be forced to use the station invention slots.
3. Destroying L4 mission income.
This won't be through an overt reduction in payouts (though soundwave was interviewed at last years Fanfest and was openly mulling it over.) It is more likely going to be through the mantra that "Eve is a MMO, and solo play is bad, therefore missioning should be made more like PvP and we will increase the rewards, while significantly increasing the difficulty" (again, as the AI changes in December already smashed L4 income). Of course, any experience player knows that running sites solo is far more profitable than teaming up. Even in 2 people went into a site with the twice the rewards, their individual income goes down as their are always redundancies. This is the same reason that null sec players rat solo, but that fact will be buried under all the upcoming propaganda and null sec ratters will be left alone to rat solo in their carriers in deep sov enclaves.
There are supposedly 1 high sec member of the CSM, a 2nd one that COULD be, (RvB) candidate, and Trebor, who seems to actually care for the entire game. These are the only people who can fight against this ongoing attack. But I believe they will be drowned out by the braying of the remaining 11, who will work directly with the game designers and devs who have been plucked straight from the very null sec cartels that benefit from these attacks on high sec.
Oh, and for those that think that the replacement of passive income from static moon goo with active ring mining is happening soon, think again. CCP just wasted how many programmer-weeks building some idiotic new exploration mini-game, when they could have instituted a complete removal of static moo goo operations instead. There is zero chance that CCP is touching moon operations until other, more lucrative income streams are first ensured for the null sec cartels. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1519
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:56:00 -
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So the CSM dictates game design now?
Sovereignty and Population
Moulds and water for the sandbox. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1060
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:57:00 -
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is this a joke? |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
51
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:57:00 -
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Adapt or quit, nothing really else left to say.
I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13954
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:58:00 -
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No. But at least you ruined any actual point you may have made by starting out with nonsensical personal abuse.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
738
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Posted - 2013.04.29 14:58:00 -
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This guy is literally mentally ill. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
445
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:02:00 -
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Guess some people think the CSM really does matter, eh?
*removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:04:00 -
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This CSM election wasn't exactly won by nullsec-bloc candidates, you know? There is enough diverse representation, quite a few independents (and some inbetween).
You got enough friendly people on there to care for PvE and highsec content, unless your expactations are beyond sane (which might be the case, rereading your OP). |
Ovv Topik
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:05:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:This guy is literally mentally ill.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!!! But yea, regular nut job.
"Jita 4 4 spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious ..." |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
739
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:08:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:This guy is literally mentally ill. YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!!! But yea, regular nut job.
I mean it in the sense that he shouldnt be engaged, provoked, etc, but rather ignored, and hopefully he gets the help he needs from those who can provide it.
Thread should just be locked. I'm surprised he hasn't been IP banned for his own good yet.
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Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
36
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No. But at least you ruined any actual point you may have made by starting out with nonsensical personal abuse.
Personal abuse?
Really, good effort there.
When in doubt, go running to the ISD to shut down a thread.
Show me the personal abuse.
You can say anything you like about this thread, but I am not abusing anyone in it.
Other than the fact that I am making people like you uncomfortable by stating the obvious. |
Mangala Solaris
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
512
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:09:00 -
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I would love to see the actual proof you have of these allegations towards my fellow CSM 8 members.
Seriously.
And not just your idea that what Soundwave says = what the null reps on the CSM want to come to pass.
Mangala Undocked |
Aida Nu
Nu Industries
53
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:10:00 -
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bzzzziiip.
wait where is my parrot |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1675
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:11:00 -
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Oh crap. MALCANIS, did you leak the CSM 8 pre-conspiracy meeting minutes yet again?
I TOLD you hotmail was not a good place to hide those.
(Sometimes the subject is so stupid all you CAN do is troll) |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
957
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:11:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:This CSM election wasn't exactly won by nullsec-bloc candidates, you know?
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It was won by the nullsec candidates overwelmingly but not as much as I expected.
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
268
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:15:00 -
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1/10
1 for writing a wall of text.
www.facebook.com/RazorAlliance |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
957
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:16:00 -
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Colonel Xaven wrote:1/10
1 for writing a wall of text.
lol if that was a wall of text you must give James315 10/10's for his Great Walls of China posts
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1676
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:24:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote:This CSM election wasn't exactly won by nullsec-bloc candidates, you know?
. It was won by the nullsec candidates overwelmingly but not as much as I expected. IMHO if you want something closer to the representation of the CSM being what the true player base is, the elections needs compulsary sufferage.
Un-freaking-believeable.
We have elections with the old voting system. You don't like the results and press for change.
CCP changes the voting system, we get CSM 8 fair and square and you STILL don't like it.
Your solution: MAKE people vote?
That begs the question, when CSM 9 (via compulsory voting) delivers the SAME results as CSM 8 (because many high sec characters are alts and many real high sec people accept the idea that high sec should have limits), what are you going to suggest then Darth?
Un-freaking-beliveable the way some people "think" (put that in quotes for a reason). |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8954
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:28:00 -
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Hi, Dinsdale.
Your list is pretty good as far as it goes, but I'm afraid you've only seen page 1. I'll summarise the rest of the list
4) End trading as a hi-sec activity with punitive taxation. 90% of the difference between the sale price and the NPC mineral base price will be deducted by the hi-sec factions.
5) All datacore agents to be moved to lo-sec. NPC 0.0 to gain datacore agents. R&D will no longer be a hi-sec activity.
6) Empire faction navy rats will attack pirate faction ships on sight.
7) Hi-sec players to address PvP area players as "my Lord/Lady" (as appropriate) on pain for a 30 day ban for the first offence.
8) Each 0.0 player to be allowed to rename as they please a hi-sec character once per 30 days subscribed. (No more GoT spoilers please)
9) Hi-sec players to have their subscription fees increased by 50% (PLEX will only grant 20 days of game time)
10) NPCs will now no longer react to players with low sec status.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8954
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:29:00 -
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Incidentally, your new name will be "Dimsdale Banana".
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8954
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:30:00 -
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I'm pretty proud of that one btw.
1 Kings 12:11
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1110
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:30:00 -
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13956
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:30:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:Personal abuse? Dilbert HighSeed wrote:ganking campaign by sociopaths So yeah. No. Not the best start if you wanted to be seen as rational or informed.
Quote:Other than the fact that I am making people like you uncomfortable by stating the obvious. What's obvious about the paranoid and unfounded nonsense you just wrote (other than its status as such)?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
37
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:31:00 -
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Mangala Solaris wrote:I would love to see the actual proof you have of these allegations towards my fellow CSM 8 members.
Seriously.
And not just your idea that what Soundwave says = what the null reps on the CSM want to come to pass.
So are you going on record, as the representative of a huge high sec based organization, that you will fight tooth and nail ANY changes proposed that fall within the parameters of the 3 targets I described? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13956
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:34:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:So are you going on record, as the representative of a huge high sec based organization, that you will fight tooth and nail ANY changes proposed that fall within the parameters of the 3 targets I described?
How about you start by proving that there's any record to go on? He might as well promise to fight tooth and nail for the moon to stay away from Jupiter.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
Joint Venture Conglomerate
549
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:34:00 -
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... now, now, OP. Everyone knows the real purpose of the CSM is to kick back and relax in those Icelandic geothermal lagoons with big umbrella drinks and rubber duckies... 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1676
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:35:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Hi, Dinsdale.
Dinsdale? That was DINSDALE? crap, now it all makes so much sense. Paranoid Schizophrenia should be a ban able offense lol
Quote:
Your list is pretty good as far as it goes, but I'm afraid you've only seen page 1. I'll summarise the rest of the list
4) End trading as a hi-sec activity with punitive taxation. 90% of the difference between the sale price and the NPC mineral base price will be deducted by the hi-sec factions.
5) All datacore agents to be moved to lo-sec. NPC 0.0 to gain datacore agents. R&D will no longer be a hi-sec activity.
6) Empire faction navy rats will attack pirate faction ships on sight.
7) Hi-sec players to address PvP area players as "my Lord/Lady" (as appropriate) on pain for a 30 day ban for the first offence.
8) Each 0.0 player to be allowed to rename as they please a hi-sec character once per 30 days subscribed. (No more GoT spoilers please)
9) Hi-sec players to have their subscription fees increased by 50% (PLEX will only grant 20 days of game time)
10) NPCs will now no longer react to players with low sec status.
ROFL
You sir, owe me one new pair of size 17 panties, for mine are now soiled with both delight and pleasure...brown pleasure yes, but still very pleasurable.
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Danni stark
0
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:37:00 -
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not sure if troll, or misguided and serious...
Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |
Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:37:00 -
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Does that mean we have to refer to Xenuria as My LadyLord? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13956
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:38:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:not sure if troll, or misguided and serious... Serious(ly in need of therapy and medication), unfortunately. If the suspicions about the OPs identity are true, we're dealing with a proper victim of all kinds of paranoia here. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
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