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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:17:00 -
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Oooh. Do you need a compress for that burn, Seri? |

Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
22
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:28:00 -
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Darvaleth Sigma wrote: However, as a loyal citizen of the Caldari State and an active militia-capsuleer, I believe our alliance with the Amarr is a dangerous one. While we weren't slaves like the Minmatar, the Amarr will always see us as a breakaway, no matter how powerful a breakaway we have become. Unless we can conclusively seize control of the Caldari-Gallente militia warzone and push the megacorporations into formalising direct sovereignty over the captured systems, I fear we will remain the significantly weaker partner of our alliance with the Amarr. If the Amarrians truly wanted to, they could cease hostility with the Minmatar and Gallente and crush the State, and I don't feel comfortable knowing that possibility exists.
What can the State do about this? Covert support of the militia. Deniable ops, training of kill-squads, lending resources. With even the tiniest fraction of Empire support the State could sweep the militia warzone, and establishing direct control over so many systems would surely secure our future as an equal of the Amarr, regardless of whether the alliance holds.
You aren't breakaway. You developed on your own out of the dark ages like the Amarr. Minmatar are breakaway. Khanid was.
We, the Amarr, respect you and your civilization and you had the good sense to respect us. Unlike the hedonists who let their passions guide their actions instead of their better angels of sense.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Commander, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |

Raven Solaris
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
252
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:20:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Gwen Ikiryo wrote:...If you don't mind me saying, it seems a little peculiar to have one of the two factionally-opposed alliances completely outclass the other, canonically. Kind of takes something away from the conflict and the notion of a possibly looming total war. Raw military might only determines one thing, though: Who wins in a straight fight. And remember also, that this is only about their navies! The Federation and the Republic both have their own strengths which put them at an equal footing with the Empire and the State, just not in raw naval might. The Federation, for example, has consistently proven its ability to win conflicts through its intelligence and unconventional warfare capabilities. The Republic, though having the weakest navy, have the most drive to win and likely a strong guerrilla warfare battle doctrine that focuses on crippling the enemy by hitting them where they are weakest and never allowing them to bring their full might to bear. The Empire and the State have the most powerful navies in a straight fight, but there is more to conflict than just that. They might win battles, but lose wars.
Not to mention the Federation is the economic juggernaut of the cluster. I wouldn't be surprised if they could grind down the opposition as every lost ship is quickly replaced. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1538
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:26:00 -
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Scharena wrote:Personally Im excited for the idea of a Cal/min alliance and I want to be part of it. If I can be.
Would you be as excited about the Amarr/Gallente alliance that would be the inevitable consequence of that?
The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
963
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:21:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: The only thing that the Amarr have over them really, is sheer tonnage in terms of numbers and some of the oldest and most experienced military leaders in the cluster.
Our 100-year old ships will blot out the sun!
Die in a fire, but blot out the sun!
Sabik now, Sabik forever |

Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1158
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:48:00 -
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Raven Solaris wrote: Not to mention the Federation is the economic juggernaut of the cluster. I wouldn't be surprised if they could grind down the opposition as every lost ship is quickly replaced.
It doesn't really work that way. Beyond a certain point your ability to put qualified crews in those new hulls completely breaks down and you wind up throwing good ships after bad. |

Gabriel Darkefyre
Gradient Electus Matari
74
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:06:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Raven Solaris wrote: Not to mention the Federation is the economic juggernaut of the cluster. I wouldn't be surprised if they could grind down the opposition as every lost ship is quickly replaced.
It doesn't really work that way. Beyond a certain point your ability to put qualified crews in those new hulls completely breaks down and you wind up throwing good ships after bad.
To echo the point above, with the way the Federation Navy is currently set out, it would be nigh on impossible for them to maintain operational capabilities in the face of any kind of sustained heavy losses.
Gallente War Poster : We want YOU for the Front Lines!
Random Gallente Joe Public : Volunteer to be Cannon Fodder? Bugger that for a Joke! I know my Rights! |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
539
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Posted - 2013.07.07 15:02:00 -
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Regarding Amarr-Caldari Military superiority, aren't the Gallente and Minmatar more industrially and economically able than the Caldari/Amarr?
Therefore total war between the two sides would be equal as the Gallente and Minmatar would be on equal footing due to a war of attrition. Herping your derp since 19Potato --á[Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts |

Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
243
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:21:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Regarding Amarr-Caldari Military superiority, aren't the Gallente and Minmatar more industrially and economically able than the Caldari/Amarr?
Gallente yes. Not the Minmatar. The Minmatar are the poorest and least economically capable of the four empires.
Empire and Federation are the strongest, economically, State can be strong but is currently heavily in debt to the Empire, while the Republic is below everyone else. |

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
218
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:48:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Stegas Tyrano wrote:Regarding Amarr-Caldari Military superiority, aren't the Gallente and Minmatar more industrially and economically able than the Caldari/Amarr? Gallente yes. Not the Minmatar. The Minmatar are the poorest and least economically capable of the four empires. Empire and Federation are the strongest, economically, State can be strong but is currently heavily in debt to the Empire, while the Republic is below everyone else.
But hey, people like the underdog, if that's any consolation.
Silas Vitalia wrote:CCP Falcon wrote: The only thing that the Amarr have over them really, is sheer tonnage in terms of numbers and some of the oldest and most experienced military leaders in the cluster.
Our 100-year old ships will blot out the sun! Die in a fire, but blot out the sun!
I don't think 100 year old technology in the world 20.000 years into the future, given the level of technological advancement we have in EVE would be considered obsolete, if you pull it in parallel with real life military technology. Given the insane technological development in the last century, there's still 100 years old pieces of hardware being successfully used all around the world. Not to mention a bullet still uses the same technology that's even older than that. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
194
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:55:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote: I don't think 100 year old technology in the world 20.000 years into the future, given the level of technological advancement we have in EVE would be considered obsolete, if you pull it in parallel with real life military technology. Given the insane technological development in the last century, there's still 100 years old pieces of hardware being successfully used all around the world. Not to mention a bullet still uses the same technology that's even older than that.
During World War I, the height of naval power was the dreadnought -- when the namesake for this type of ship (the HMS Dreadnought) was built, it immediately made all other warships obsolete by virtue of its heavy guns and heavy armor rendering the lighter guns on most pre-1906 warships unable to sink it and its kin.
During World War II, battleships quickly became obsolete for nearly everything but commerce raids and offshore bombardment, as aircraft carriers could sink them long before they even got close to being in range for their guns.
Clearly, the pace of technological change is not quite the same in the Eve universe, but 100 years is a long time, and new technologies can introduce huge paradigm changes in every part of society. |

YuuKnow
Terra-Formers
818
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:57:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Despite being on the back foot to the Federation due to Heth's leadership, it's still the belief of most military analysts that the Caldari Navy would, with the right leadership, be capable of defeating any of the other three Navies.
The only thing that the Amarr have over them really, is sheer tonnage in terms of numbers and some of the oldest and most experienced military leaders in the cluster.
Military analyst, military smanalst. They got owned and are still getting owned. Proof is in the pudding and talk is cheap.
yk |

Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
243
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:00:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Despite being on the back foot to the Federation due to Heth's leadership, it's still the belief of most military analysts that the Caldari Navy would, with the right leadership, be capable of defeating any of the other three Navies.
The only thing that the Amarr have over them really, is sheer tonnage in terms of numbers and some of the oldest and most experienced military leaders in the cluster.
Military analyst, military smanalst. They got owned and are still getting owned. Proof is in the pudding and talk is cheap. We should force Faction warfare pilots to only use their own faction ships and see who comes out on top. yk
Some of us already do. :P
Also, the militias aren't the navies. The two are completely different. Success in the WZ doesn't say anything about how capable the navies are since they're not the ones fighting it. |
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