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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
737
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:04:00 -
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In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1671
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:06:00 -
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Ummm...O.K.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Jean Luc Retard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:08:00 -
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Highsec miners will prevail - undocking 822 Macinaws in Osmon as we speak. |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:10:00 -
[4] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Ummm...O.K.
Hodor. |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Academy
31
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:11:00 -
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Holy crap! An internet victory!? Sound the band! People should be dancing in the streets! My twitch stream to help new players:
http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51 |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
48
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:11:00 -
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A hollow victory. One that could have been won by doing nothing at all. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10828
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:11:00 -
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"Mission Accomplished"  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3330
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:12:00 -
[8] - Quote
It's a little early to claim victory, don't you think?
And your post was far too short. Are you sure James 315 vetted that announcement for release?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
737
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:13:00 -
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Jean Luc ****** wrote:Highsec miners will prevail - undocking 822 Macinaws in Osmon as we speak.
I can cut you a deal on permits for those. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
48
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:14:00 -
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Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:Holy crap! An internet victory!? Sound the band! People should be dancing in the streets!
http://www.twogag.com/archives/2518 |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:14:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:A hollow victory. One that could have been won by doing nothing at all.
Are you saying they could have won a glorious victory against AFKing by AFKing themselves? Not sure if srs. |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:15:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:It's a little early to claim victory, don't you think?
And your post was far too short. Are you sure James 315 vetted that announcement for release?
Claiming victory is like voting, one should do it early and often.
Your retort was even shorter, are YOU sure James315 vetted your response? |

Commissar Kate
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2182
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:17:00 -
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Mission Accomplished Set Lasers for Fun!!! |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
48
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:19:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Setaceous wrote:A hollow victory. One that could have been won by doing nothing at all. Are you saying they could have won a glorious victory against AFKing by AFKing themselves? Not sure if srs. Incredibly serious. I'm well known for it. |

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
737
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:24:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote: a victory
:reading comprehension:
Make no mistake, there will still be AFK, and we will still kill them.
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
445
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:26:00 -
[16] - Quote
I declare The New Order morons! There, I win. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
943
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:30:00 -
[17] - Quote
Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK. Confirming ...
something. CCP has no sense of humour. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
947
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:30:00 -
[18] - Quote
Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
oh shoot i better tell all my nullbear brosefs. Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Jay Kreutzer
High Life Industries Fade 2 Black
10
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:36:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Ummm...O.K.
reported for no-content post
and this thread needs more KM's, and less chest-puffing. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:36:00 -
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I've broken out the victory ham. |

Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:41:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Ummm...O.K. Hodor.
Quoted for truth. Never wiser words were said. |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:42:00 -
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Jay Kreutzer wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Ummm...O.K.
reported for no-content post and this thread needs more KM's, and less chest-puffing.
You say you're reporting someone else's post, then ask for KM's, which the forum rules state aren't allowed here? what?
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Jay Kreutzer
High Life Industries Fade 2 Black
10
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:43:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Jay Kreutzer wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Ummm...O.K.
reported for no-content post and this thread needs more KM's, and less chest-puffing. You say you're reporting someone else's post, then ask for KM's, which the forum rules state aren't allowed here? what?
guess what that 'whooshing' sound was? |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:45:00 -
[24] - Quote
Jay Kreutzer wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Jay Kreutzer wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Ummm...O.K.
reported for no-content post and this thread needs more KM's, and less chest-puffing. You say you're reporting someone else's post, then ask for KM's, which the forum rules state aren't allowed here? what? guess what that 'whooshing' sound was?
The sound of you getting kicked off stage for not being funny?
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Drunken Bum
212
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:49:00 -
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At first, the james 315 stuff was pretty funny. But now, its gotten carried away. A bunch of RPer carebears ganking a buncha sad miners. I dont know which group is worse. At least the miners arent spewing their roleplay **** everywhere I guess. Spare some change?-á |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
746
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:50:00 -
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Praise be to James. |

Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:51:00 -
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That is like someone claiming their defeat as their own victory. |

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
738
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Posted - 2013.04.30 00:54:00 -
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If I was role-playing, I'd be going on about Tibus Heth. |

ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1239
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:05:00 -
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Hey look, its James alt again. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
962
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:10:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
How can you say that when AFK moon goo operations are being expanded so greatly with Odyssy?  An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
554
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:14:00 -
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Somethings happening, Somethings happening!
I just.... I don't see it yet,
Nothing yet,
I think I will just go back to work.
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Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:32:00 -
[32] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
How can you say that when AFK moon goo operations are being expanded so greatly with Odyssy? 
A. Because moon goo isn't AFK, it's logged out. If you figure out a way to mine ice while logged out that CCP is ok with, then I am confident I can get you New Order approval for it. B. There are a number of moon goo towers currently, call it X. The number of moon goo towers after Odyssey may well be less than X, in my opinion. Are you personally guaranteeing otherwise?
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FluffyDice
Kronos Research
549
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:33:00 -
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Jokes on you guys, I'm still mining AFK in my wormhole. |

terzho
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
264
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:35:00 -
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Jon Snow dies. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
5178
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:44:00 -
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Drunken Bum wrote:At first, the james 315 stuff was pretty funny. But now, its gotten carried away. A bunch of RPer carebears ganking a buncha sad miners. I dont know which group is worse. At least the miners arent spewing their roleplay **** everywhere I guess.
And it's CCP's Victory. James, whatever the number is, had nothing to do with it. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

FluffyDice
Kronos Research
549
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:45:00 -
[36] - Quote
terzho wrote:Jon Snow dies. Spoiler: So does everyone else. |

DSpite Culhach
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:58:00 -
[37] - Quote
Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
Emergent Gameplay? The game of EVE already revolves around blowing up ships.
* The Providence Alliance block provides EG by having formed a NRDS in a game that does normally do that. * RvB provides EG by having very well defined Rules Of Engagement for it's players. * EVE Uni provides levels of EG by being a teaching institution and having "classes" in-game. * People living in Worm Holes are an example of unintended EG as CCP had not made them for that.
The only thing you guys have done is decided on a specific target, and said "we will just concentrate on blowing up those". That's it.
CCP does not need you to find AFK players, they have all the tools, all the data, all the player metrics they need.
You want to be a Roleplaying organization that only hunts mining ships? Go for it, I mean, it's meant to be a sandbox game, but your belief that the game is "made better" is at best wrong, and at worse, a lie created just to make the idea look plausible.
CCP will push out new changes and mechanics whenever it sees that ANY particular style of gameplay is been pushed too far in one particular direction. The harder-to-kill barges were your fault and Hulkaggeddon's fault because it was "overdone".
If "burn Jita" type events were done regularly around trade hubs, CCP would probably introduce Gate Guns type objects and new aggression mechanics for target selection, because logically, that's what an advanced civilization would do if their Trade hubs were constantly under siege.
Don't get me wrong, I do like the concept behind what you guys are doing, but every time you guys speak up in forums or interviews, you sound ridiculous; if that was intentional, then great, but if you are really trying to stir up change, I think it's a major failure so far.
I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
140
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:14:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:*words about the New Order based on guesswork and hearsay*
You might want to learn one or two actual facts about the New Order before writing a wall of text about it.
I'll give you a hint as to where to start: The NO didn't begin ganking barges until the barge EHP buff was already announced; saying that the NO is responsible for the barge EHP buff is thus indicative that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Second Hint: ganking barges/exhumers/orcas is one of the three major activities of the NO, perhaps you might learn what the other two are before posting further about them?
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:And it's CCP's Victory. James, whatever the number is, had nothing to do with it.
Yes, of course, the carebear's dual articles of faith:
1. It's CCP's game, you ebil gankers have nothing to do with anything they decide. 2. James and the Mittani, and every other leader of every nullsec coalition are all the same person. This person controls CCP's every action through his spies working for CCP.
I see that today is a #1 day. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2449
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:27:00 -
[39] - Quote
Trying to be relevant again, are we? |

Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
118
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:29:00 -
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FluffyDice wrote:terzho wrote:Jon Snow dies. Spoiler: So does everyone else.
Finished "Storm of Swords" just before 3rd season started. Told all my co-workers that they I hope they didn't have any favorite characters still alive, because season 3 will break your hearts I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service. |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:48:00 -
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Attention!
The miners recovered their function. In spite of nerfs they became more bot aspirant and are spreading throughout New Eden to mine afk.
Now, New Order, it is time to show your real power. You shall destroy the bot aspirants completely. |

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
742
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Posted - 2013.04.30 03:51:00 -
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Ah yes, the ol' "gankers ruin ganking" argument. |

DSpite Culhach
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:13:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Ah yes, the ol' "gankers ruin ganking" argument.
I don't think that is simply what happened. "Suicide Ganking" was the one of the first un-intended Emergent Gameplay that appeared, up there with can flipping, and CCP realized that these were subjects that needed looking at.
For that matter your Alliance is blatantly stating that "Miners ruined Mining" and that you guys are the only way to fix it. CCP has finally decided that Mining has issues and it's now getting looked at.
If CCP stated tomorrow "ALL mining Bots in EVE have been removed and we have made it impossible for people to use scripts to mine" you guys would NOT close up shop and stop what you are doing, you would state that it's impossible to not AFK mine because no one can look at at beams hitting an Asteroid for hours.
I don't mine, but I could easily dual screen at work and mine 8 hours a day straight while doing other work. I would not be AFK, and I would not be botting, but I would still annoy people like you, and you would still hunt me, because the hunting is what you want, not changes to the game.
I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:23:00 -
[44] - Quote
DSpite Culhach wrote: If CCP stated tomorrow "ALL mining Bots in EVE have been removed and we have made it impossible for people to use scripts to mine" you guys would NOT close up shop and stop what you are doing, you would state that it's impossible to not AFK mine because no one can look at at beams hitting an Asteroid for hours.
No, I would state that many companies have claimed to have removed all bots in their games, and it's never actually been true before, and that I wouldn't take any statement like that seriously as a result.
DSpite Culhach wrote:I don't mine, but I could easily dual screen at work and mine 8 hours a day straight while doing other work. I would not be AFK, and I would not be botting, but I would still annoy people like you, and you would still hunt me, because the hunting is what you want, not changes to the game.
No, I want changes to the game AND hunting. Luckily, I get both, because I chose a game with hunting, and regular updates.
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Frying Doom
2431
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:19:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
As you are now claiming to be the victors against afk mining, does this mean you will now go into Null and Lo-sec and actually face people that can shoot back?
Or are you still planning on hiding under CONCORDs protection? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:29:00 -
[46] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
As you are now claiming to be the victors against afk mining, does this mean you will now go into Null and Lo-sec and actually face people that can shoot back? Or are you still planning on hiding under CONCORDs protection?
"a victory against the AFK."
"a victory"
"a"
^
When it's not "a victory", but "the victory", you will know it because there will be more targets in low/null than there are in high. At that point, yes, I would expect the NO to move to low/null.
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Ritsum
Ubiquitous Hurt
174
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:38:00 -
[47] - Quote
So since you guys think you have won, does that mean you will post less? Because it is always annoying going into a thread to find some kind of scary religious like postings of in game happenings.
Edit: Also mining is just one inhabitant of the "AFK". What next? Finding AFK Cloaky's? Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows. |

Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
209
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:45:00 -
[48] - Quote
If you like griefing, just admit it. |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
145
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:53:00 -
[49] - Quote
I bumped for the first time the other night. It was amusing for all of 30 minutes then I got bored with the lack of response from the afk miners. How do you do it? |

ca chinger
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:54:00 -
[50] - Quote
I find you guys amusing not only do you extort from players in the game and throw a spin on it like your helping the game, but you try to dictate other peoples play style as well.
Quote:No excessive mining. Miners should not fall into a routine of mining all day. I want well-rounded people in my system, not ice-mining machines.
if they want to mine all day every day that's up to them, yes the code followers or test tube babies or unclaimed. may suicide them but if they really love mining they'll get a new ship and either try to continue in the previous system they were ganked in or move to another system. The reach of the code followers is only so far you cant cover every sector of space.
with the new changes to mining and how much ore difference there will be in the new anomalies that are coming and with the loss or gain of miners due to the new system which could potentially lower your chances at getting targets. On top of that there's also the possibility that prices on common minerals will increase unless the null miners start bringing their common minerals to empire. |

Kurt Gallenger
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:03:00 -
[51] - Quote
Who's Jimmy123? A noob? |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
336
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:27:00 -
[52] - Quote
dark heartt wrote:I bumped for the first time the other night. It was amusing for all of 30 minutes then I got bored with the lack of response from the afk miners. How do you do it? You need to go afk and wait for them to return in order to collect the tears. Remove insurance. |

Lin Suizei
137
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:As you are now claiming to be the victors against afk mining, does this mean you will now go into Null and Lo-sec and actually face people that can shoot back?
Or are you still planning on hiding under CONCORDs protection?
I see you misspelled "the cowardice and our incompetence of our enemies" as "CONCORDs protection". Xeros S*** > are you really suprised? im not here to pvp so why the fuc not Xeros S**** > oh go cry somewhere else, im not in fw for the ****** pvp
Welcome to faction war. |

Danni stark
11
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:09:00 -
[54] - Quote
Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
implying these changes have anything to do with you and aren't just a trial run for moving all asteroid belts to anoms in order to remove down time. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
327
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:21:00 -
[55] - Quote
relevant as random dolphin fart is to earth ecosystem. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Uzbeg Khan
Spartan Advanced Mining R O G U E
6
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:23:00 -
[56] - Quote
Stop giving these morons attention and they'll go away. Things I hate: - Signatures - Irony - Lists |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1253
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:41:00 -
[57] - Quote
The glorious New Order of highsec has been winning the war against filthy afk miners and bots for months, and now CCP themselves are doing their part to further help our cause. Truly glorious.
It's fun to watch miners cry even though the price of ice is going to go up. Methinks they're complaining because they're botters and RMTers. |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
403
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Posted - 2013.04.30 08:14:00 -
[58] - Quote
These new order guys sure like to claim alot of things at random, without actually doing anything.
Keep up the .....um..... good work?  Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Ravnik
Choke-Hold Beacon Light Alliance
7130
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Posted - 2013.04.30 08:22:00 -
[59] - Quote
Sorry was AFK...who won what where?  The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |

Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
84
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Posted - 2013.04.30 09:57:00 -
[60] - Quote
This thread reminds me of politicians, who claim victory whenever something good comes about, but what they dont realize is it didn't happen because of them, but in spite of them. Mining changes were done because CCP listened to Nullbears, not because they give a damn about about N.O. |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2382
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
1) Ice still exists after Odessey....
2) Ice can still be afk mined, albeit not for weeks on end after Odessey....
3) More isk per m/3 due to finite reserves after Odessey....
4) ^^ means less mining for the same isk
5) Faster cycles per minute means less time having to put up with mining ice for towers...
I dont know.. seems to me the new order has amounted to nothing short of inspiring "counter-bumping" as an emergent gameplay.... Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
657
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
posting in thread "we are still here! pay attention to us! anyone?" |

Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
52
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:56:00 -
[63] - Quote
DSpite Culhach wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Ah yes, the ol' "gankers ruin ganking" argument. I don't think that is simply what happened. "Suicide Ganking" was the one of the first un-intended Emergent Gameplay that appeared, up there with can flipping, and CCP realized that these were subjects that needed looking at. For that matter your Alliance is blatantly stating that "Miners ruined Mining" and that you guys are the only way to fix it. CCP has finally decided that Mining has issues and it's now getting looked at. If CCP stated tomorrow "ALL mining Bots in EVE have been removed and we have made it impossible for people to use scripts to mine" you guys would NOT close up shop and stop what you are doing, you would state that it's impossible to not AFK mine because no one can look at at beams hitting an Asteroid for hours. I don't mine, but I could easily dual screen at work and mine 8 hours a day straight while doing other work. I would not be AFK, and I would not be botting, but I would still annoy people like you, and you would still hunt me, because the hunting is what you want, not changes to the game.
Quoted for the fact these words ring truth... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
68
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:11:00 -
[64] - Quote
This makes me remember an Iraqi official during the 2nd invasion of that country, proclaiming to the media that they were winning and even crushing the coalition forces. We all know what REALLY happened during that conflict. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
967
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:38:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
How can you say that when AFK moon goo operations are being expanded so greatly with Odyssy?  A. Because moon goo isn't AFK, it's logged out. If you figure out a way to mine ice while logged out that CCP is ok with, then I am confident I can get you New Order approval for it. B. There are a number of moon goo towers currently, call it X. The number of moon goo towers after Odyssey may well be less than X, in my opinion. Are you personally guaranteeing otherwise?
A: Logged out AFK is even more AFK then logged in AFK, duh  B: Patently wrong look at the mechanics you'll need more towers due to extra reaction added.
Face it If anything this expansion is reinforcing the AFK moon goo teat with 200 afkable resource rich new moons. This expansion is really a nerf to HI SEC AFK and a BUFF to NULL SEC AFK
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2418
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:41:00 -
[66] - Quote
Quote: New Order Claims Victory Against AFK
Still 'claiming' other peoples stuff, are we? Aren't y'all just so puppy dog cute.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1183
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:59:00 -
[67] - Quote
Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
I do not mine, nor do I gank or go near miners.
I had as much to do with the coming resource shift as James aged 13 and a bit, and his ego. This is not a signature. |

Holderof Corp
Behind the Horizon
0
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
Posting in a Look at me thread QQ |

Serptimis
Boob Heads Test Alliance Please Ignore
146
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:21:00 -
[69] - Quote
Uzbeg Khan wrote:Stop giving these morons attention and they'll go away. thats all they really want, someone to pat them on the head and say 'That'll do roleplayer, that'll do' |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
5342
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:26:00 -
[70] - Quote
Reuben Johnson wrote:This thread reminds me of politicians, who claim victory whenever something good comes about...
"Mission Accomplished"  There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
143
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Posted - 2013.04.30 17:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
DarthNefarius wrote:A: Logged out AFK is even more AFK then logged in AFK, duh 
Nope. 
Is this a normal type of response for you? If you say someone's asleep, and get a response: "He's not asleep man, he's dead", do you respond "Dead is even more asleep than asleep, duh " ?
The common definition of AFK is "logged in, but not sitting at the computer paying attention to it" I frankly don't believe that you log off for the night and tell your corpies "going afk".
Quote:B: Patently wrong look at the mechanics you'll need more towers due to extra reaction added.
No towers are *needed*, actually. People are free to decide not to put up towers to mine moon minerals. the question we were discussing was: will there be more towers, or less towers; I notice that you're evading the question of whether you're personally guaranteeing there will be more, but instead making mocking and irrelevant insults, to disguise your lack of argument.
Quote:Face it If anything this expansion is reinforcing the AFK moon goo teat with 200 afkable resource rich new moons.
Moon goo isn't AFK, it's logged out. Not every moon currently has a tower, so adding 200 more moons doesn't automatically mean there will be 200 more active towers.
I would go into how the real game balance issue with moongoo isn't actually number of towers, but total profit available and distribution thereof, but we aren't making progress on the number of towers issue so perhaps we should finish that discussion first.
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Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
161
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Posted - 2013.04.30 18:07:00 -
[72] - Quote
This feels like a "Mission Accomplished" moment. Someone find this man an aircraft carrier. Aideron Robotics is hiring for the Gallente Federation war effort! https://www.aideronrobotics.com/wiki/Applying |

Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
88
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:25:00 -
[73] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Reuben Johnson wrote:This thread reminds me of politicians, who claim victory whenever something good comes about... "Mission Accomplished"  I see you're "Mision Accomplished" andr aise you a "We are out of the reccession" |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
5415
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Posted - 2013.04.30 23:57:00 -
[74] - Quote
Reuben Johnson wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Reuben Johnson wrote:This thread reminds me of politicians, who claim victory whenever something good comes about... "Mission Accomplished"  I see you're "Mision Accomplished" andr aise you a "We are out of the reccession"
 There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Ritsum
Ubiquitous Hurt
178
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Posted - 2013.05.01 00:26:00 -
[75] - Quote
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:A: Logged out AFK is even more AFK then logged in AFK, duh  Nope.  Is this a normal type of response for you? If you say someone's asleep, and get a response: "He's not asleep man, he's dead", do you respond "Dead is even more asleep than asleep, duh  " ? The common definition of AFK is "logged in, but not sitting at the computer paying attention to it" I frankly don't believe that you log off for the night and tell your corpies "going afk".
It doesn't matter if he logged out or is logged in... He is not at his computer while making money, which is AFK money making like miners just on a larger scale. Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows. |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:33:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ritsum wrote: It doesn't matter if he logged out or is logged in... He is not at his computer while making money, which is AFK money making like miners just on a larger scale.
Actually it does matter :)
When you're AFK, logged in and in space you can be blown up. When you're docked up, logged out, and AFK, you can't be blown up.
Do you see that as a meaningful difference, or not?
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GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:43:00 -
[77] - Quote
well, now that NO has completed this, turn your attention to the botting of Jita spam.
popcorn anyone? |

Ritsum
Ubiquitous Hurt
178
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Posted - 2013.05.01 01:54:00 -
[78] - Quote
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Ritsum wrote: It doesn't matter if he logged out or is logged in... He is not at his computer while making money, which is AFK money making like miners just on a larger scale.
Actually it does matter :) When you're AFK, logged in and in space you can be blown up. When you're docked up, logged out, and AFK, you can't be blown up. Do you see that as a meaningful difference, or not?
Yes I see a big difference. Moon Mining is a much worse form of AFKing then AFK Mining. Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Daktaklakpak.
2157
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:12:00 -
[79] - Quote
Galaxy Pig wrote:In the name of the Savior of of Highsec James 315, the Code, and the New Order of Highsec, I hereby formally claim the coming changes to mining as a victory against the AFK.
But is it really a victory? Look deep inside yourself and ask, is it really a victory? Really? Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.05.01 02:26:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ritsum wrote:
Yes I see a big difference. Moon Mining is a much worse form of AFKing then AFK Mining.
Ok, we agree there is a difference; glad we could resolve our disagreement and agree that I was correct. |

Tesal
300
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:35:00 -
[81] - Quote
I was making a spy alt to join the New Order to sabotage them from within. Now what the hell will I do with this alt? Train up ice mining I guess. |

Ritsum
Ubiquitous Hurt
178
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Posted - 2013.05.01 03:58:00 -
[82] - Quote
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Ritsum wrote:
Yes I see a big difference. Moon Mining is a much worse form of AFKing then AFK Mining.
Ok, we agree there is a difference; glad we could resolve our disagreement and agree that I was correct.
I agree that there is a Difference but the difference is in the scale of the ability to AFK while making profit. Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows. |

Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.05.01 04:29:00 -
[83] - Quote
Ritsum wrote:
I agree that there is a Difference but the difference is in the scale of the ability to AFK while making profit.
Yes, exactly.
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Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
54
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Posted - 2013.05.01 12:52:00 -
[84] - Quote
Im sorry but I agree with Nathalie here...When you are logged out, youre not AFK...youre logged out... Just because someone has liquid money due to tech moon mining doesnt mean its afk...theyre making that money regardless of whether theyre logged in or not... They make x amount of ISK from moon go while sat at the keyboard and the exact x amount when theyre not... Its called solid income in the real world... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1360
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Posted - 2013.05.01 13:47:00 -
[85] - Quote
Lol. Someone from the New World Order thinks they influenced something. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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